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In a message dated 9/4/01 8:51:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

donna_lee777@... writes:

> 1. While waiting for insurance approval, should I go

> ahead and see Dr. Rabkin for the consultation? The

> way he's booked, I may not get in til next year if

> Pacificare keeps dragging this out.

>

I would get your appt made...Dr. Rabkin's office will need to send in

information to get the approval most likely.

> 2. As respects the diarhea (sp?), is there a product

> we can use when the toilet paper starts to feel like

> sand paper?

>

I don't have any problems that way...I do have alot of diarrhea when I do go

to the bathroom but its not to the point where its making me hurt down

there...LOL

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Dee,

I would find a way to see the surgeon at least to get the ball rolling.

Also try using something like a diaper wipe. They have helped me in the past

and can make you feel oh so fresh. LOL

Angels hover ever near,

DS 4/11/01

Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

Dr Deveney @ OHSU

Starting wt 282

Current wt 222

Two Questions

> I've been meaning to ask these questions but, for some

> reason, never did:

>

> 1. While waiting for insurance approval, should I go

> ahead and see Dr. Rabkin for the consultation? The

> way he's booked, I may not get in til next year if

> Pacificare keeps dragging this out.

>

> 2. As respects the diarhea (sp?), is there a product

> we can use when the toilet paper starts to feel like

> sand paper?

>

> Darn, I had one more question but forgot! I hate when

> that happens!

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> =====

> Dee

> Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

> 313/Want to be 165

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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As respects the diarhea (sp?), is there a product

we can use when the toilet paper starts to feel like

sand paper? >>>>>>

Dee,

if you are sore, use baby wipes! I use toliet paper and then finish with

baby wipes every time......that way Im really " powdery " clean!!

<g>

Judie

Two Questions

> I've been meaning to ask these questions but, for some

> reason, never did:

>

> 1. While waiting for insurance approval, should I go

> ahead and see Dr. Rabkin for the consultation? The

> way he's booked, I may not get in til next year if

> Pacificare keeps dragging this out.

>

> 2. As respects the diarhea (sp?), is there a product

> we can use when the toilet paper starts to feel like

> sand paper?

>

> Darn, I had one more question but forgot! I hate when

> that happens!

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> =====

> Dee

> Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

> 313/Want to be 165

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby wipes

and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the salad

tongs while in the hospital!

Judie

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OMG I forgot about those. How could I have forgotten those? I would have had

to have my DH wipe my butt if I did not have those.

Angels hover ever near,

DS 4/11/01

Bowel obstruction 4/21/01

Dr Deveney @ OHSU

Starting wt 282

Current wt 222

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> OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby

wipes

> and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

>

> thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the salad

> tongs while in the hospital!

>

> Judie

>

>

>

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OMG I forgot about those. How could I have forgotten those? I would have had

to have my DH wipe my butt if I did not have those.>>>>>

I didnt know about them, Cynce so I rang for the lowly fella to wipe

mine.....I didnt care if he was male or female or had a sex change......just

so he wiped me! LOL

Judie

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>

>

> > OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby

> wipes

> > and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

> >

> > thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the salad

> > tongs while in the hospital!

> >

> > Judie

> >

> >

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

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In a message dated 9/5/01 4:03:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

<< We felt pretty good by 10

days out! >>

The day you shared the Mc's burger...my 10 day goal!

Sheryl

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Ok, I missed out on this joke. Please explain. :)>>>>

Salad tongs, Micky......salad tongs....to wipe yourself with after surgery

if you cant reach back there! You wrap tissue around the tongs and

wipe.......or a wooden spoon works well too.

Judie

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What a terrific angel you had and your experience sounds good too. I am glad

things went well for you guys.

I knew you would have cleaned up the mess. I would have been too embarrassed

too.

Hugs,

Cynce

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> Who took care of you guys at home>>>>

>

> we spent a week in the motel in Portland and my angel who lives in

Portland

> and works at the 7th day adventist hospital there (I met her online 2yrs

> ago) came to take care of us every night after work.....she made sure we

had

> plenty of food, went shopping for us, made sure we had lots of drinking

> water, and visited etc and brought us homemade thanksgiving meal on turkey

> day.....so we were ok. Then we drove to Seattle and stayed 2 days with

> Mikes mom and from there drove home to Idaho. We felt pretty good by 10

> days out!

>

>

>

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I knew you would have cleaned up the mess. I would have been too embarrassed

too.>>>>>>.

Cynce, yeah......and I was just 7 days out from surgery LOL I just could

not call housekeeping!

Hugs, Judie

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>

>

> > Who took care of you guys at home>>>>

> >

> > we spent a week in the motel in Portland and my angel who lives in

> Portland

> > and works at the 7th day adventist hospital there (I met her online 2yrs

> > ago) came to take care of us every night after work.....she made sure we

> had

> > plenty of food, went shopping for us, made sure we had lots of drinking

> > water, and visited etc and brought us homemade thanksgiving meal on

turkey

> > day.....so we were ok. Then we drove to Seattle and stayed 2 days with

> > Mikes mom and from there drove home to Idaho. We felt pretty good by 10

> > days out!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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This joke was over the salad tongs used so we can reach to wipe our butts.

It is very painful to try to twist.

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> >

> >

> > > OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby

> > wipes

> > > and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

> > >

> > > thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the

salad

> > > tongs while in the hospital!

> > >

> > > Judie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

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I kinda guessed that is what you all were referring too! LOL

I am so glad I have a bidet to finish the job LOL

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-- Re: Two Questions

This joke was over the salad tongs used so we can reach to wipe our butts.

It is very painful to try to twist.

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> >

> >

> > > OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby

> > wipes

> > > and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

> > >

> > > thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the

salad

> > > tongs while in the hospital!

> > >

> > > Judie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

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have a bidet >>>>>>>

ah gee.......wished I had one! does it use warm water or cold? LOL

My brother in law installed one in the house he built last year......when i

first saw it I thought they were two toliets in the same bathroom to be

shared by married couples ROFLMAO

Judie

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does it use warm water or cold? It uses both hot and cold water LOL When we

put in our first one, a friend thought it was a foot washer LMAO

Now a few lesson's in uses for bidet's.

Of course there is the intended use, But, one can sit on the toilet and fill

the bidet with warm sudsy water to shave ones legs, this alleviates at least

some of the scars and loss of blood other methods achieve.Lmao

Also one can sit on the toilet and hang ones head over the bidet for those

more indiscrete moments of life.LOL

And for those that have just had an episiotomy? You know the stitches from

you know where to you know where, after child birth, we now have a sitz bath

LOL

You said......when i first saw it I thought they were two toliets in the

same bathroom to be shared by married couples ROFLMAO

Your comment about for use of married couples, brought about visuals leaning

towards a depends moment for me. LMAO

That will be the day I sit side by side with hubby do my constitutional,

sharing is one thing but this is to much to ask lol.

Love and Hugs to all

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LOL, I thought these remarks were funny.

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> does it use warm water or cold? It uses both hot and cold water LOL When

we

> put in our first one, a friend thought it was a foot washer LMAO

>

> Now a few lesson's in uses for bidet's.

>

> Of course there is the intended use, But, one can sit on the toilet and

fill

> the bidet with warm sudsy water to shave ones legs, this alleviates at

least

> some of the scars and loss of blood other methods achieve.Lmao

>

> Also one can sit on the toilet and hang ones head over the bidet for those

> more indiscrete moments of life.LOL

>

> And for those that have just had an episiotomy? You know the stitches

from

> you know where to you know where, after child birth, we now have a sitz

bath

> LOL

>

> You said......when i first saw it I thought they were two toliets in the

> same bathroom to be shared by married couples ROFLMAO

>

> Your comment about for use of married couples, brought about visuals

leaning

> towards a depends moment for me. LMAO

> That will be the day I sit side by side with hubby do my constitutional,

> sharing is one thing but this is to much to ask lol.

>

> Love and Hugs to all

> http://phoenixrisng.www6.50megs.com

> http://ca.geocities.com/phoenixrisngca/blue.html

>

>

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> OMG I forgot about those. How could I have forgotten those? I would

have had

> to have my DH wipe my butt if I did not have those.

> >

> >

> > thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget

the salad

> > tongs while in the hospital!

> >

> > Judie

OK, I have to ask, even though I'm just a lurker on this list so

far...what's up with the salad tongs???

Shari

Consult with Dr. Herron on 9/13!

BMI 43 with comorbidities

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what's up with the salad tongs???

Shari>>>>>>

Shari, those are what some used to wipe themselves in the hospital and at

home.....wrap toliet paper around it and wipe. was the only way for some to

do that since they couldnt reach back there very easily!

Judie

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OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby wipes

and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!

Two Questions

>

>

> > I've been meaning to ask these questions but, for some

> > reason, never did:

> >

> > 1. While waiting for insurance approval, should I go

> > ahead and see Dr. Rabkin for the consultation? The

> > way he's booked, I may not get in til next year if

> > Pacificare keeps dragging this out.

> >

> > 2. As respects the diarhea (sp?), is there a product

> > we can use when the toilet paper starts to feel like

> > sand paper?

> >

> > Darn, I had one more question but forgot! I hate when

> > that happens!

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > =====

> > Dee

> > Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

> > 313/Want to be 165

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Ok, I missed out on this joke. Please explain. :)

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>

>

> > OMG! Did you ever think you'd be having a discussion about poop, baby

> wipes

> > and feeling " powdery " ? LOL!>>>>>

> >

> > thats all we talk about for the last 9 months LOL dont forget the salad

> > tongs while in the hospital!

> >

> > Judie

> >

> >

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> >

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a friend thought it was a foot washer LMAO>>>>

LOL Penny!

Once, when skiing I went into the mens room (not knowing it was the mens

room) and there was nobody in there.....but I saw this huge " round "

thing...stainless steel with water coming out kinda like a fountain for each

person......I thought it was for washing hands!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Judie

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OMG! I always had trouble wiping but somehow managed. I never heard of this!

LOL!

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> Ok, I missed out on this joke. Please explain. :)>>>>

>

> Salad tongs, Micky......salad tongs....to wipe yourself with after surgery

> if you cant reach back there! You wrap tissue around the tongs and

> wipe.......or a wooden spoon works well too.

>

> Judie

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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It's funny we're discussing this. Pre-op I told a friend that one of the

things I looked forward to was being able to wipe w/ so much of an effort.

As soon as I lost enough weight that it happened I wrote and told her! We

got a real laugh out of it. :)

Micky

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> I never heard of it either, Micky, before it was mentioned here but its a

> good idea for those who have a real problem with it! It was hard for me

too

> but I managed alright except after surgery when I hurt too bad to try

> it.....instead opted for the male aide to do it....I didnt care who did it

> at that time either!

>

> Judie

>

>

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