Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 In a message dated 9/2/01 3:49:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, MsMystic1@... writes: > Why is it that some people have such pain - is it that they give epidurals > for open but not lap? Or is it just up to the surgeon? Can they give an > epidural after they knock you out i didn't have an epidural...nor did I want one...the thought of something in my spine just freaks me out...way more than the surgery did...LOL I think people having pain is based on many things....the person's pain threshold, the direction of your incision, what else is done during the surgery and the dr and his ways. I honestly had almost no pain after the first 24 hours....Just the usual discomforts. The one thing that did hurt was at times I'd get pain from wher the gallbladder and appendix were. ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! -10.75 inches 08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -28.1 lbs! -11.25 inches 08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! -15.5 inches 08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! -21.25 inches My personal website: www.WLS4AJ.homestead.com Check out the Bellingham Support Group at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Thank you for the info that not everyone gets epidurals! I wonder if Dr Rabkin does them. Ever since I read QBVII, I'm petrified at the thought of an epidural. dee *********** lookn2bthin@... wrote: i didn't have an epidural...nor did I want one...the thought of something in my spine just freaks me out...way more than the surgery did... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 In a message dated 9/2/2001 7:06:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, donna_lee777@... writes: << I wonder if Dr Rabkin does them. >> As of two years ago when my friend had surgery with Dr. R, he did not use the epidural. She was on some pretty severe IV pain killers though. I think it was a morphine pump. Kim B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Carole, Abdominal surgery is very painful, especially the first time as muscles and tendons are all cut thru. (I swore and cussed when they made me get up and walk after my gall bladder surgery as I thought they were trying to kill me) Now if I had the epidural at that time I would have been relatively free from any pain! That is the goal of pain management.....keep the patient as pain free and comfortable as possible as it leads to a faster recovery and you can get up and walk with a pain level of 2 instead of 8-10! I had the open and had the epidural......my husband had the lap and also had the epidural. Its pretty much up to the surgeon what is used. They gave it to us under flouroscope in surgery before being knocked out as they must know by asking questions if they are doing it ok and they cant do that if you are out. With the flouroscope its guided in without mistakes. I felt absoltly NO pain whatsoever. What was painful for you might have been a spinal and this is very different. I had a spinal with the birth of my first one and that was hell..... Judie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Carole, after posting, I realized it was a spinal in QB VII. Is that the same thing? QB VII is a great book by Leon Uris. It was also the very first " mini-series " on TV - even before Roots. It's about two men after WWII. One is a Polish (I think) doctor who, after the war, is told that a book was published about WWII and he's in it. According to the book, this doctor (who was a POW in a concentration camp) was accused of performing terrible experimental surgeries on Jewish prisoners. Yes he was told to by the Nazis but he didn't protest it, according to the author. In fact, he often operated without anesthesia. The experiemental surgeries were on twins and involved their sexual organs. The doctor sues the author, who is the other main character in the book. So the author is on trial for libel in England (where the doctor moved to after the war). QB VII refers to the courtroom, Queens Bench #7. The mini-series starred Hopkins, Caron, Ben Gazarra, Lee Remick and t Mills. Anyway, one of the witnesses in the trial (a CCamp Survivor) tells about getting a spinal and the needle broke off in his back. Doctor didn't do anything, he said, to get him out of pain. Sorry for the long post, it's so hard to condense this! dee --- MsMystic1@... wrote: > In a message dated 9/2/01 11:03:14 AM Eastern > Daylight Time, > duodenalswitch writes: > > << Ever since I read QBVII, I'm petrified at the > thought > of an epidural. > >> > What is this and where can you read it? Please > share! Carole > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 , thanks so much for the info - I can definitely live with a morphine pump! dee --- susan4541@... wrote: > As of two years ago when my friend had surgery with > Dr. R, he did not use the > epidural. She was on some pretty severe IV pain > killers though. I think it > was a morphine pump. > > Kim B. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Theresa, I wish I could handle an epidural because it sounds like a good way to go but I get panic/anxiety attacks and I'm going to be FREAKING anyway when I'm at the hospital. No, I need to be put WAY out - LOL. And I would LOVE to be switch sisters!!! dee ********************* Dee, I asked Dr. Rabkin if he does epidurals, and he clearly said no. However, he said if you insist on it, he would not stop it. I just had total knee replacement and insisted on an epidural. I will assure you that you feel a thousand times better post surgically, because you are not having to wear off a general anesthesia...(which takes weeks and immediately after surgery can make you nauseas as hell) but also, you wake up from surgery numb, which you really wanna be! Hope you and I become switch sisters...crossing my fingers. Theresa __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 In a message dated 9/2/01 11:58:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jhensel@... writes: > Oh yeah! Stunned me for a moment that i didnt hurt myself!! I like to > think I had an angel there catching me! > > I remember tripping once and almost falling...felt like a nightmare for a second...LOL Not something you want to do during the first days after surgery....LOL ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! -10.75 inches 08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -28.1 lbs! -11.25 inches 08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! -15.5 inches 08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! -21.25 inches My personal website: www.WLS4AJ.homestead.com Check out the Bellingham Support Group at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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