Re: Severe diet limitations and acidophilus

[Guest guest]

Could you post the diet?

thanks

Sampson wrote:

> I would like to get opinions on the rotation diet that

> Dr. Baptist recommended for my son yesterday.

> had an ELISA sent to Alletess, and their

> dietician worked up a diet for him. Then Dr. Baptist

> went back through it and scratched off about half of

> the foods that they recommended, due to 's

> scratch test results. To add to the problem, about

> half of the foods that were left, he's never even had,

> so he may have reactions to them anyway. So this diet

> from the dietician, it is a four day rotation diet,

> and has a list of foods for the first day, second day,

> and so forth. I thought people only rotated grains,

> but this rotates EVERYTHING. Any one food, no matter

> what it is, can only be eaten once every four days.

> And the way they have these grouped, it's maddenning!

> One day, the only grain that he can have is quinoa,

> and I can only get that in pasta form, but he can't

> have any spaghetti sauce on it because tomato is on a

> different day. I don't know if I can handle this!

> And I don't know if we can afford it, either! Is this

> wierd, or are there other people who are rotating

> everything? If there are, is it okay to switch things

> around, like change days for the tomato? I am going

> to go insane. That's why I haven't slept all night

> and am up at 5 a.m. on the computer.

>

> Another thing, we got his stool culture back, and he

> had a serious yeast problem. Keep in mind that he is

> 17 months old. His Dr. recommended a 10 billion dose

> of Powerdophilus, but they didn't have that in powder

> form, so I got Primadophilus Children, and in order to

> give him 10 billion, I have to give him almost 7

> teaspoons every night. That sounds like a lot to me.

> Anyone else?

> Thanks for all your input,

>

> Crazy in Missouri

>

> =====

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Sampson wrote:

> Day 1:

> white perch, salmon, trout, duck, duck eggs, cornish

> hen, quail, quinoa, artichoke, Romaine lettuce, chard,

> chicory, spinach, fennel, escarole, Swiss chard,

> parsnip, leaf lettuce, beets, carrot, banana, papaya,

> lime, mango, orange, kumquat, lemon, pistachio,

> hazelnut, sesame seed, filbert, tarragon, oil of

> wintergreen, dill, cicely, lovage, anise, coriander,

> parsley, caraway, cumin, sesame oil, green tea, agar

> agar, carageen.

Well, you could give him cut up bananas and oranges for breakfast. For lunch

he could have some junior carrots and quinoa noodles sauteed with sesame oil

and hazelnuts. And by dinner he'll be starving, so he may just eat a bit of

canned salmon (Special Kids book has a receipe for puffs), spinach (which

he'll eat if you salt it to death), and for dessert you can give him some

lime jello or mango pieces. I suppose he could drink orange juice or

banana/papaya juice through the day....what about sugars? No added sugars,

right? That will limit what you can bake using quinoa flour unless you make,

say, banana bread using quinoa flour on day 1.

My heart goes out to you. This looks very similar to what I'm *trying* to do

with my 3.4 yr. old--you put all the food families together on single day and

don't use them again until the fourth day. If you start moving foods around

(like adding tomato to the quinoa noodles) you defeat the purpose of the diet

rotation since you'd have a nightshade food (tomato) on day 1 and again on

day 3

[Guest guest]

Do you have a Trader Joe's near you? They sell duck breast and whole duck.

Diced duck meat isn't bad at all; I use it regularly in a recipe. (For that

matter, duck eggs get bad press, the ones I have eaten taste pretty much

like chicken eggs.) Trader Joe's also sells a mango sauce (can't remember if

it has sugar in it, though.) Pistachios are always on their shelves.

My kids are older than yours, but at least two of my three eat beets,

artichokes, Swiss chard, fennel, lettuce, coriander (cilantro). In fact,

Elliot opened and ate two cans of artichoke bottoms that I had saved for

some dreamed-of dinner party! I don't know if you are avoiding fish for

mercury or other reasons, but if not, steamed salmon is lovely with dill.

You could make a granola bar of sorts, with pureed banana and/or mango,

quinoa flakes or boiled quinoa seeds, chopped filbert and/or hazelnuts,

shredded carrot, sesame seeds and sesame oil. Kinda follow the idea in

Carole Fenster's cookbook for poha granola bars.

So, putting it together, for day one: how about diced duck or duck eggs and

granola bars for breakfast. Cornish hens, carrot coins, fennel slices for

lunch. Steamed salmon with dill, pureed parsnips, beets for dinner, with

more papaya or mango or banana for dessert. Green tea with oil of

wintergreen as the beverage.

Chin up, if you want to do it, you can.

Lorilyn

Subject: Re: Severe diet limitations and acidophilus

> Day 1:

> white perch, salmon, trout, duck, duck eggs, cornish

> hen, quail, quinoa, artichoke, Romaine lettuce, chard,

> chicory, spinach, fennel, escarole, Swiss chard,

> parsnip, leaf lettuce, beets, carrot, banana, papaya,

> lime, mango, orange, kumquat, lemon, pistachio,

> hazelnut, sesame seed, filbert, tarragon, oil of

> wintergreen, dill, cicely, lovage, anise, coriander,

> parsley, caraway, cumin, sesame oil, green tea, agar

> agar, carageen.

>

> Day 2:

> cod, lobster, pork, haddock, shrimp, crab, herring,

> crayfish, ham, corn flour, grits, rice, millet, corn,

> asparagus, scallions, cucumber, garlic, shallot,

> pumpkin, leeks, squash, onions, apple, honeydew,

> olive, pear, watermelon, pineapple, cantelope,

> avocado, pomegranite, casaba melon, star fruit, pine

> nut, poppy seed, cardamon, chives, ginger, nutmeg,

> saffron, cinnamon, corn oil, olive oil, rice bran oil,

> stevia, pear nectar, rice milk, herbal tea, pineapple

> juice.

>

> Day 3:

> deer, abalone, turkey, flounder, clams, halibut,

> mussels, sole, scallop, amaranth, buckwheat, potato

> flour, garbanzo flour, green pepper, tomato, fava

> bean, lima bean, purple pepper, alfalfa, green beans,

> mung bean, red pepper, clover sprouts, kidney bean,

> pinto bean, potato, lentil, kiwi, date, blueberry,

> longan, cranberry, coconut, pecan, walnut, cayenne

> pepper, licorice, paprika, white pepper, chili pepper,

> fenugreek, cranberry juice, tomato juice, walnut oil.

>

> Day 4:

> beef, lamb, mackerel, tuna, cottonseed meal, wild

> rice, bamboo shoots, broccoli, cauliflower, turnip,

> okra, brussel sprouts, collard greens, sweet potato,

> garden cress, bokchoy, cabbage, kohlrabi, highbush

> cranberry, apricot, plum, strawberry, cherry, fig,

> nectarine, raspberry, guava, peach, chestnut, brazil

> nut, macadamia nut, water chestnut, caper, mint, sage,

> horehound, oreagno, savory, lavendar, peppermint,

> spearmint, marjoram, rosemary, thyme, cottonseed oil,

> mint teas, raspberry leaf tea, gelatin.

>

>

> As you can see, it's very limited, especially for a 17

> month old baby. I can see an adult being able to do

> this, but two days out of the diet, he can only drink

> tea. How crazy is that? And I can safely say that I

> would have to drive 3 hours, roundtrip, to even try to

> find half of the things that he can eat. More input?

>

>

> --- Fry wrote:

> > Could you post the diet?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

> > Sampson wrote:

> >

> > > I would like to get opinions on the rotation diet

> > that

> > > Dr. Baptist recommended for my son

> > yesterday.

> > > had an ELISA sent to Alletess, and their

> > > dietician worked up a diet for him. Then Dr.

> > Baptist

> > > went back through it and scratched off about half

> > of

> > > the foods that they recommended, due to 's

> > > scratch test results. To add to the problem,

> > about

> > > half of the foods that were left, he's never even

> > had,

> > > so he may have reactions to them anyway. So this

> > diet

> > > from the dietician, it is a four day rotation

> > diet,

> > > and has a list of foods for the first day, second

> > day,

> > > and so forth. I thought people only rotated

> > grains,

> > > but this rotates EVERYTHING. Any one food, no

> > matter

> > > what it is, can only be eaten once every four

> > days.

> > > And the way they have these grouped, it's

> > maddenning!

> > > One day, the only grain that he can have is

> > quinoa,

> > > and I can only get that in pasta form, but he

> > can't

> > > have any spaghetti sauce on it because tomato is

> > on a

> > > different day. I don't know if I can handle this!

> > > And I don't know if we can afford it, either! Is

> > this

> > > wierd, or are there other people who are rotating

> > > everything? If there are, is it okay to switch

> > things

> > > around, like change days for the tomato? I am

> > going

> > > to go insane. That's why I haven't slept all

> > night

> > > and am up at 5 a.m. on the computer.

> > >

> > > Another thing, we got his stool culture back, and

> > he

> > > had a serious yeast problem. Keep in mind that he

> > is

> > > 17 months old. His Dr. recommended a 10 billion

> > dose

> > > of Powerdophilus, but they didn't have that in

> > powder

> > > form, so I got Primadophilus Children, and in

> > order to

> > > give him 10 billion, I have to give him almost 7

> > > teaspoons every night. That sounds like a lot to

> > me.

> > > Anyone else?

> > > Thanks for all your input,

> > >

> > > Crazy in Missouri

> > >

> > > =====

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

The fact that he is only 17 months old will really work in your favor. He

really doesn't realize what he's missing. That's around the age my son

started GFCF. I have the upmost admiration for anyone who would even

attempt this diet with a much older child for whom you have to discontinue

favorite foods. Not that that I don't respect you as well : ) Just that I

found after the first week or so he realized that this is what his options

were for food. Boy, you've made gfcf look easy all of a sudden. Hang in

there!! Wendi

Re: Severe diet limitations and acidophilus

>

>

> > Day 1:

> > white perch, salmon, trout, duck, duck eggs, cornish

> > hen, quail, quinoa, artichoke, Romaine lettuce, chard,

> > chicory, spinach, fennel, escarole, Swiss chard,

> > parsnip, leaf lettuce, beets, carrot, banana, papaya,

> > lime, mango, orange, kumquat, lemon, pistachio,

> > hazelnut, sesame seed, filbert, tarragon, oil of

> > wintergreen, dill, cicely, lovage, anise, coriander,

> > parsley, caraway, cumin, sesame oil, green tea, agar

> > agar, carageen.

> >

> > Day 2:

> > cod, lobster, pork, haddock, shrimp, crab, herring,

> > crayfish, ham, corn flour, grits, rice, millet, corn,

> > asparagus, scallions, cucumber, garlic, shallot,

> > pumpkin, leeks, squash, onions, apple, honeydew,

> > olive, pear, watermelon, pineapple, cantelope,

> > avocado, pomegranite, casaba melon, star fruit, pine

> > nut, poppy seed, cardamon, chives, ginger, nutmeg,

> > saffron, cinnamon, corn oil, olive oil, rice bran oil,

> > stevia, pear nectar, rice milk, herbal tea, pineapple

> > juice.

> >

> > Day 3:

> > deer, abalone, turkey, flounder, clams, halibut,

> > mussels, sole, scallop, amaranth, buckwheat, potato

> > flour, garbanzo flour, green pepper, tomato, fava

> > bean, lima bean, purple pepper, alfalfa, green beans,

> > mung bean, red pepper, clover sprouts, kidney bean,

> > pinto bean, potato, lentil, kiwi, date, blueberry,

> > longan, cranberry, coconut, pecan, walnut, cayenne

> > pepper, licorice, paprika, white pepper, chili pepper,

> > fenugreek, cranberry juice, tomato juice, walnut oil.

> >

> > Day 4:

> > beef, lamb, mackerel, tuna, cottonseed meal, wild

> > rice, bamboo shoots, broccoli, cauliflower, turnip,

> > okra, brussel sprouts, collard greens, sweet potato,

> > garden cress, bokchoy, cabbage, kohlrabi, highbush

> > cranberry, apricot, plum, strawberry, cherry, fig,

> > nectarine, raspberry, guava, peach, chestnut, brazil

> > nut, macadamia nut, water chestnut, caper, mint, sage,

> > horehound, oreagno, savory, lavendar, peppermint,

> > spearmint, marjoram, rosemary, thyme, cottonseed oil,

> > mint teas, raspberry leaf tea, gelatin.

> >

> >

> > As you can see, it's very limited, especially for a 17

> > month old baby. I can see an adult being able to do

> > this, but two days out of the diet, he can only drink

> > tea. How crazy is that? And I can safely say that I

> > would have to drive 3 hours, roundtrip, to even try to

> > find half of the things that he can eat. More input?

> >

> >

> > --- Fry wrote:

> > > Could you post the diet?

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > >

> > > Sampson wrote:

> > >

> > > > I would like to get opinions on the rotation diet

> > > that

> > > > Dr. Baptist recommended for my son

> > > yesterday.

> > > > had an ELISA sent to Alletess, and their

> > > > dietician worked up a diet for him. Then Dr.

> > > Baptist

> > > > went back through it and scratched off about half

> > > of

> > > > the foods that they recommended, due to 's

> > > > scratch test results. To add to the problem,

> > > about

> > > > half of the foods that were left, he's never even

> > > had,

> > > > so he may have reactions to them anyway. So this

> > > diet

> > > > from the dietician, it is a four day rotation

> > > diet,

> > > > and has a list of foods for the first day, second

> > > day,

> > > > and so forth. I thought people only rotated

> > > grains,

> > > > but this rotates EVERYTHING. Any one food, no

> > > matter

> > > > what it is, can only be eaten once every four

> > > days.

> > > > And the way they have these grouped, it's

> > > maddenning!

> > > > One day, the only grain that he can have is

> > > quinoa,

> > > > and I can only get that in pasta form, but he

> > > can't

> > > > have any spaghetti sauce on it because tomato is

> > > on a

> > > > different day. I don't know if I can handle this!

> > > > And I don't know if we can afford it, either! Is

> > > this

> > > > wierd, or are there other people who are rotating

> > > > everything? If there are, is it okay to switch

> > > things

> > > > around, like change days for the tomato? I am

> > > going

> > > > to go insane. That's why I haven't slept all

> > > night

> > > > and am up at 5 a.m. on the computer.

> > > >

> > > > Another thing, we got his stool culture back, and

> > > he

> > > > had a serious yeast problem. Keep in mind that he

> > > is

> > > > 17 months old. His Dr. recommended a 10 billion

> > > dose

> > > > of Powerdophilus, but they didn't have that in

> > > powder

> > > > form, so I got Primadophilus Children, and in

> > > order to

> > > > give him 10 billion, I have to give him almost 7

> > > > teaspoons every night. That sounds like a lot to

> > > me.

> > > > Anyone else?

> > > > Thanks for all your input,

> > > >

> > > > Crazy in Missouri

> > > >

> > > > =====

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

[Guest guest]

My goodness-half thos ethings I know my son wouldn t touch{or myself for

that matter} but you were worried about pasta and sauce-I saw potato flour

on tomato day-they make some pretty good potato pastas if that is any

consolation. Maybe you could work with the doctor and dietician again for

some more kid friendly foods-good luck to you because I know beyond a doubt

I couldnt do it-Dakota would starve before he would eat all those green

veggies LOL F

Re: Severe diet limitations and acidophilus

> Day 1:

> white perch, salmon, trout, duck, duck eggs, cornish

> hen, quail, quinoa, artichoke, Romaine lettuce, chard,

> chicory, spinach, fennel, escarole, Swiss chard,

> parsnip, leaf lettuce, beets, carrot, banana, papaya,

> lime, mango, orange, kumquat, lemon, pistachio,

> hazelnut, sesame seed, filbert, tarragon, oil of

> wintergreen, dill, cicely, lovage, anise, coriander,

> parsley, caraway, cumin, sesame oil, green tea, agar

> agar, carageen.

>

> Day 2:

> cod, lobster, pork, haddock, shrimp, crab, herring,

> crayfish, ham, corn flour, grits, rice, millet, corn,

> asparagus, scallions, cucumber, garlic, shallot,

> pumpkin, leeks, squash, onions, apple, honeydew,

> olive, pear, watermelon, pineapple, cantelope,

> avocado, pomegranite, casaba melon, star fruit, pine

> nut, poppy seed, cardamon, chives, ginger, nutmeg,

> saffron, cinnamon, corn oil, olive oil, rice bran oil,

> stevia, pear nectar, rice milk, herbal tea, pineapple

> juice.

>

> Day 3:

> deer, abalone, turkey, flounder, clams, halibut,

> mussels, sole, scallop, amaranth, buckwheat, potato

> flour, garbanzo flour, green pepper, tomato, fava

> bean, lima bean, purple pepper, alfalfa, green beans,

> mung bean, red pepper, clover sprouts, kidney bean,

> pinto bean, potato, lentil, kiwi, date, blueberry,

> longan, cranberry, coconut, pecan, walnut, cayenne

> pepper, licorice, paprika, white pepper, chili pepper,

> fenugreek, cranberry juice, tomato juice, walnut oil.

>

> Day 4:

> beef, lamb, mackerel, tuna, cottonseed meal, wild

> rice, bamboo shoots, broccoli, cauliflower, turnip,

> okra, brussel sprouts, collard greens, sweet potato,

> garden cress, bokchoy, cabbage, kohlrabi, highbush

> cranberry, apricot, plum, strawberry, cherry, fig,

> nectarine, raspberry, guava, peach, chestnut, brazil

> nut, macadamia nut, water chestnut, caper, mint, sage,

> horehound, oreagno, savory, lavendar, peppermint,

> spearmint, marjoram, rosemary, thyme, cottonseed oil,

> mint teas, raspberry leaf tea, gelatin.

>

>

> As you can see, it's very limited, especially for a 17

> month old baby. I can see an adult being able to do

> this, but two days out of the diet, he can only drink

> tea. How crazy is that? And I can safely say that I

> would have to drive 3 hours, roundtrip, to even try to

> find half of the things that he can eat. More input?

>

>

> --- Fry wrote:

> > Could you post the diet?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

> > Sampson wrote:

> >

> > > I would like to get opinions on the rotation diet

> > that

> > > Dr. Baptist recommended for my son

> > yesterday.

> > > had an ELISA sent to Alletess, and their

> > > dietician worked up a diet for him. Then Dr.

> > Baptist

> > > went back through it and scratched off about half

> > of

> > > the foods that they recommended, due to 's

> > > scratch test results. To add to the problem,

> > about

> > > half of the foods that were left, he's never even

> > had,

> > > so he may have reactions to them anyway. So this

> > diet

> > > from the dietician, it is a four day rotation

> > diet,

> > > and has a list of foods for the first day, second

> > day,

> > > and so forth. I thought people only rotated

> > grains,

> > > but this rotates EVERYTHING. Any one food, no

> > matter

> > > what it is, can only be eaten once every four

> > days.

> > > And the way they have these grouped, it's

> > maddenning!

> > > One day, the only grain that he can have is

> > quinoa,

> > > and I can only get that in pasta form, but he

> > can't

> > > have any spaghetti sauce on it because tomato is

> > on a

> > > different day. I don't know if I can handle this!

> > > And I don't know if we can afford it, either! Is

> > this

> > > wierd, or are there other people who are rotating

> > > everything? If there are, is it okay to switch

> > things

> > > around, like change days for the tomato? I am

> > going

> > > to go insane. That's why I haven't slept all

> > night

> > > and am up at 5 a.m. on the computer.

> > >

> > > Another thing, we got his stool culture back, and

> > he

> > > had a serious yeast problem. Keep in mind that he

> > is

> > > 17 months old. His Dr. recommended a 10 billion

> > dose

> > > of Powerdophilus, but they didn't have that in

> > powder

> > > form, so I got Primadophilus Children, and in

> > order to

> > > give him 10 billion, I have to give him almost 7

> > > teaspoons every night. That sounds like a lot to

> > me.

> > > Anyone else?

> > > Thanks for all your input,

> > >

> > > Crazy in Missouri

> > >

> > > =====

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >