Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 , I don't mean to worry you, I'm sorry. Although it's not a guarentee, being in shape and up on folic acid prior to pregnancy greatly descreases any chance of downs syndrom. The stats about older moms and downs are misleading in my opinion. Like older moms have more babies with DS yet most DS babies are born to younger moms... Stats are a lot like Public Opinion Polls, you really have to weed down through them to get the real answers and not the surface results. Maybe my situation isn't a fair comparison. There was 5 years between and Everett. My body had totally converted back to it's pre-baby condition so Evy's pregnancy was like a 1st time pregnancy to me - it felt much like 's pregnancy. However, there was less than2 years between Everett and this baby, so my body had not fully recovered and I " Feel " the pregnancy a lot harder. Other women have told me this is normal stuff for having babies close together but to me, it's not normal based on my two prior experiences, does that make sense? I wouldn't describe it as a living hell or anything, lol, but I feel it more, there's no lie about that. s. Re: Re: DBB alternatives? > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd get > himself done instead...now following through is a different matter. > > s. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 It's a similar situation for me - there was 11 years between my first and second pregnancies and then my second was just under two when I conceived number three. I feel the same way - not having recovered for very long from the second pregnancy made the third feel a lot harder physically, even though techinically it was my healthiest pregnancy and I had my lowest weight gain. Also, the fact that you have a two year old running around makes a HUGE difference! number23 wrote: , I don't mean to worry you, I'm sorry. Although it's not a guarentee, being in shape and up on folic acid prior to pregnancy greatly descreases any chance of downs syndrom. The stats about older moms and downs are misleading in my opinion. Like older moms have more babies with DS yet most DS babies are born to younger moms... Stats are a lot like Public Opinion Polls, you really have to weed down through them to get the real answers and not the surface results. Maybe my situation isn't a fair comparison. There was 5 years between and Everett. My body had totally converted back to it's pre-baby condition so Evy's pregnancy was like a 1st time pregnancy to me - it felt much like 's pregnancy. However, there was less than2 years between Everett and this baby, so my body had not fully recovered and I " Feel " the pregnancy a lot harder. Other women have told me this is normal stuff for having babies close together but to me, it's not normal based on my two prior experiences, does that make sense? I wouldn't describe it as a living hell or anything, lol, but I feel it more, there's no lie about that. s. Re: Re: DBB alternatives? > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd get > himself done instead...now following through is a different matter. > > s. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Definately truth to that! Also, the fact that you have a two year old running around makes a HUGE difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair. Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement. I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage.html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 We moved into our house 8 months ago. Nothing had been done here for years and the chap who used to own it painted over all the lights roses on the ceiling and switches. I am so lucky my other half and my dad are good at DIY I decorated and they ripped out the kitchen and bathroom etc and I have to say we have done every room. There are now the little finishing jobs to be done but nothing major. We have even had the back and front garden done!!!!! Don't want to move again though - it's been hard work!!! Rach, Steve & Connor -- Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dh said that when we fix the house up we are going to sell it. Now I don't want to fix it up.lol I hate movein and the last move was over 1200 miles!! With 2 kids a dog a cat 1 brother in and the inlaws!! That was enough to last me a life time. And then just lastnight he said that we are going to start lookin for a newer house!! Ya that would be nice. I hate this one, but I am only one person here and already have my plate full. I need to hire someone to do it all for me. lol Rach wrote: We moved into our house 8 months ago. Nothing had been done here for years and the chap who used to own it painted over all the lights roses on the ceiling and switches. I am so lucky my other half and my dad are good at DIY I decorated and they ripped out the kitchen and bathroom etc and I have to say we have done every room. There are now the little finishing jobs to be done but nothing major. We have even had the back and front garden done!!!!! Don't want to move again though - it's been hard work!!! Rach, Steve & Connor -- Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 That was our original plan...fix it and sell it. I keep telling him this place is falling apart faster than we can fix it! I don't enjoy moving but I'd welcome a move that took me away from this place. I told him I didn't care WHERE we went, I just wanted a home that didn't need major repair work. s. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I had antepartum depression with my third too! It was the weirdest thing because you think it should be such a happy event and therfore you should be happy all the time. Interesting! angelmommy23 wrote: You might be onto something about the time between. I had mine at barely 20, barely 24 and 25. The first one was a very easy pregnancy and quick and easy delivery. The second was a painful pregnancy due to baby's position and two months of PTL, but delivery was simple a fast and recovery was nothing ... but a short 8 months later I was pregnant again. I was even still nursing at the time! I suffered depression, exhaustion and overall discomfort durring that pregnancy, and labor was a nightmare (doc's fault there) but the biggest thing was recovery time after delivery! It took 3x as long to recover as it had just 16 months before. Angel Just > make the > > appointment for him like I did...it worked better that way. > hehehe > > > > > > Carol > > > Re: Re: DBB alternatives? > > > > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd get > > himself done instead...now following through is a different > matter. > > > s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Well, now that our house has been fixed up much better and we just got a really great tax evaluation for it, my husband is all anxious to sell, sell, sell! Worst part is he only wants to move a few blocks away. I feel nauseous just thinking about moving...... number23 wrote: That was our original plan...fix it and sell it. I keep telling him this place is falling apart faster than we can fix it! I don't enjoy moving but I'd welcome a move that took me away from this place. I told him I didn't care WHERE we went, I just wanted a home that didn't need major repair work. s. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 I was going through this thread to delete posts and I just had to respond to this one. I thought you might like to know, that if you ovulate you have one of two choices... you either get pregnant or you have a period. You can't ovulate and not have one or the other happen (or be discovered) 14 days afterwards, it's physiologically impossible. You CAN however have periods and not ovulate. I think what you were thinking of is that you have the possibility of ovulating and you don't know when it'll happen even though you're not having periods. This is very true. However once it happens, it only happens once and you will see a period 14d after you ovulate or two pink lines lol. That time period after you ovulate is pretty constant at +/-14 days. Before, it's a toss up as to how many days after your period starts that you'll ovulate... could be 10days, could be 90, could be months!! lol... but once the egg pops, you have no choice but to either fertilize or slough off the uterine lining (period). Not trying to dispute anything, I just wanted you to know this information cuz I feel that all women should know this. And more.... There is so much our bodies tell us during our cycle that you can actually pinpoint the time you ovulate and if you know this, you will know to the day when your period will start. If anyone is interested in this (I highly recommend all women and their men should learn all about this) there's a good book available called " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " by Toni Weschler, MPH. The information in this book will tell you so much about yourself and the way your body tells you everything you need to know to either get pregnant, or NOT get pregnant without any other form of birth control. I just LOVE Toni Weschler, she's a fantastic writer and teacher, a wonderful person who I have met multiple times and she's written a book that is easy to understand and a fun read too. Check it out... want empowerment? You all MUST have her book! Kori At 09:17 AM 1/8/2006, you wrote: >Well the other thing about the vasectomy/tubal ligation debate is >that you hear more stories about pregnacy resulting from >vasectomies than from ligations. We do have a doctor here who does >scalpel-less, painless vasectomy, so it's not like it would be that >big of a deal, but I know that if my husband got a vasectomy >done, I'd have to ride his ass to go and get checked for the >madatory length of time. I'm barely letting him near me right now >because I am aware that I am ovulating even though I don't have a >period. Oh, I just could NOT imagine being pregnant right now!! > >bruinbelle29 wrote: I also told my >husband that since I'm already going to the hospital, > I may as well get it done. But he insisted that he take care of > business. Fine. But has he made any effort into getting an > appointment? Of course not! In fact, he was going to get it done > last year but he said that during the mandatory " information video " > that they show the guys, he broke out in a cold sweat and said he > started feeling dizzy. He couldn't go through with it! Two months > later...I'm knocked up again! And here we are today. > > I'm going to take Carol's advice and get that appointment for him. > > :-) > Janice > > > Just make the > appointment for him like I did...it worked better that way. hehehe > > > > Carol > > Re: Re: DBB alternatives? > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd get > himself done instead...now following through is a different matter. > > s. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 My husband is so sick of home repair he's ready to sell at a reduced price just to unload it. s. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Ya they did. took me 3 days to get all the stuff out and then 3 weeks to clean it so that my husband could move in. With his cancer a cold can kill him. SO I had to make sure it was very well cleaned. And ya home repair Not sure how I am goin to put that in. lol number23 wrote: Just accept you now have a new hobby called home-repair! lol. (left the food??? Eeww!) s. I am not goin to share about our house just yet. Let's just say that we have moved into a house 8 months ago that has been vacant for 2 years or so. The people that left it left everything there!!! Even all the food. Gross!!! It would take a book to tell u about this house. But after reading all that everyone eles is doing to their house I am afraid how I am goin to get mine done!lol I number23 wrote: mine has vowed never again to buy a 1 bedroom house! lol I can so relate! To make the attic room we had to move walls between the bedroom/dining room to accomodate a stair well, so at one point we slept in the living room a few months and always there was at least one dresser in there. s. My husband did two major renovations the last two times I was pregnant, and one just when I was returning to work, so that we were all sleeping in the living room in the winter on a floor that's over an unfinished basement I told him if he plans any more changes to the house, I'll have another baby - that made him think twice! number23 wrote: We closed off a door that went from the bathroom to the kid's bedroom; the bedroom side is finished now, but the bathroom side is still a chunk of sheet rock slapped in place and no mud, there fore no paint - and once I mud it to paint I'll have to patch all the other blemishes, caulk things, paint the whole room new and some how still maintain baths, laundry and general hygeine in there around all that while the kids try to " help " . Um, it's not done yet WHY??? Our bedroom thank God is done. We converted our attic to a room cuz this house only had 1 bedroom. The stair case leading up there is not done - but at least when I go through the door at the top I sleep in a completed room that is mine all mine! We spent the first 15 months here all crammed in one room. Funny I managed to get pregnant at all! LOL! s. s. ----- My bathroom is in terrible shape, too. My bedroom, though, has had the wallpaper pulled off and the paint to paint it, since the birth of my second daughter about five years ago now. LOL How sad is that?? Hubby and I both feel like we get nothing done around here, and well, we don't. LOL Joy --- number23 wrote: > We've been working on our house for nearly two years now and some times dh > gripes I don't have our bathroom done yet (sheet rock/cosmetic repairs) and > it's like, HUH? I may be home all day but I also have two other kids and 3rd > trimester pregnant, I'm so wore out most the time now days I'm lucky to clean > the bathroom, let alone FIX the bathroom. If we had 2 I could probably get > more done but the idea of sheet rock mud and crap all over the place in a > room we have to use is miserable and then there's the fact I have to pee > every fifteen minutes, ha ha and like you said, when I do use the bathroom I > always have a short audience hovering over me. Rose (1-99) http://www.geocities.com/joybelle15/rosesclubfootpage html Iris (2-01) Spencer (3-03) Grant (9-05) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/grantphilip __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yup, if you could just be pregnant and miserable without having to change diapers, do homework, feed people, chase kids, and care about all the " important " things that happen in each child's life, take care of a husband.... you could almost survive pregnancy. I only say this cause I am trying to find something positive about the whole situation today. There has got to be something wrong with me cause try as I might, I just can't enjoy this pregnancy or the last 5. I just hope my kids don't remember how awful their mother was when they grow up. Someday I hope to be a decent mother. And I am having the hardest time tolerating the two kids I watch everyday. They are good kids and I love them, but right now I just can't stand them. My own kids are enough to handle most days. So I guess this makes me awful. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy Definately truth to that! Also, the fact that you have a two year old running around makes a HUGE difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Well, as my 7 yo hides behind the living room chair crying and wimpering like a wounded puppy because I won't let him watch stupid cartoons right now, I can kind of relate! Geeeze what kind of awful mom I am that I won't let him gell his mind to rubber on Clifford the Big Red Dog when he could read or write or draw or play out doors or or or or or.... You're not an awful mother . Being a mom is just a hard gig no matter how you slice it. Some days are chickens, some days are feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 You gals are angels. Most of my issues come from just being pregnant and sick and knowing that I won't feel good until this baby comes. I guess it is good news that I don' throw up nearly as many times a day as I have in the past. I do get some exercise, and it does help. It's just these wacky hormones that you know you should control but can't and all the junk that is happening on the farm right now. My dh buffers a lot for me cause he knows I don't want to deal with it right now, but he also needs a place to vent and we do have some major decisions to make. Sorry to whine. I should just buck up and deal with it all. Just one of those days when the next four months look like and eternity. I also had to listen to my mil tell me that I am not as sick as I think I am, it is all in my head, and I just want attention. This from the woman who I didn't tell I was pregnant for 5 stinking months, like she knows anything. So I am afraid you gals get the whining so I don't tell her to go to.... and stay there. I had better shut my mouth. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy > > > Definately truth to that! > > Also, the fact that you have a two year old running around makes a HUGE difference! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 OK Nat, whine here before you burn your bridges with the folks you actually have to live in personal contact with! LOL! s. Re: Re: ot- vasectomy > > > Definately truth to that! > > Also, the fact that you have a two year old running around makes a HUGE difference! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Donna, Yup... I think you need to read the book. Ovulatory spotting isn't uncommon. In fact, this past year I had it almost every cycle after my d & c last Sept. It has finally stopped, and I'm actually now on a very regular cycle with no ovulatory spotting. Past two cycles only however... we shall see how it goes. But if you read the book you'll learn how to know when you're fertile and won't need any bc as long as you abstain during your fertile days. Read the whole book, cover to cover even if you don't think a certain section pertains to you. You may be surprised that something actually does speak to you that you hadn't thought of. I've had 3 sections myself (not for want of trying - wanted homebirths all 3 times...) and it's entirely possible that they did do something weird, just as the d & c I had did something weird for me. I really had some unusual cycles this past year, never before seeing ovulatory spotting. And my cervical fluid isn't exactly what it should be either, nor was the mittelschmertz (ovulatory pain) I usually feel normal or on the day it was previously. Which is why if I chart faithfully and use ALL the signs available I am able to pinpoint ovulation which then tells me exactly when my period will come. I still have PCOS, but at least I know what's going on now and quite honestly... at this point I don't really even need to chart faithfully to know what's going on although I don't recommend doing this if you really don't want to get pg again. It's really a great think for us all, and this book is now my standard wedding present lol. Order the book, through amazon or there are some other places I know of that donate to charities when you order if you'd like to go that route. Or, s Books (huge new & used bookstore here in Portland) has an online site and I'm sure you can get it there because that's where I pick up my wedding presents lol. however you get it, make sure it's the most recent version. Toni also has a website with tons of valuable information and software now. I use an Excel spreadsheet that is available for download online (free) as a chart and I like it a lot. the TCOYF website is... www.tcoyf.com and the Excel chart I like is here: http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/bbt/bbt.html Empowerment will come! LOL here's the 's Books site - this place is amazing to go into... they have everything. Very Portland lol! It's like 3 blocks from my boy's school so I could even just drop by and pick you up a copy. probably less shipping. http://www.powells.com/ Email me any time with questions, I understand this all quite well and can interepret charts or even just information pretty well for friends lol. I have predicted due dates for babies before they were even confirmed pregnancies hehe... gotta run, Kori At 08:01 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote: >Kori, > >ok, so I'm gonna have to read that book, but thought maybe you might >have specific information related to women's cycles....Since having >a c-section with my daughter, my periods have been terrible...long >and very, very heavy. 3-4 day spotting in between each period. I'm >going crazy. Our only form of birth control is me knowing when I >ovulate and this crazy cycle makes me very uncertain. As a matter of >fact, I had a c-section with the previous one too and crazy periods >after that one and then along came another baby, totally unplanned. >I never had these problems until the c-sections (not after vaginal >delivery), so I don't know if it is related or what. I keep thinking >it will get better over time, but meanwhile...my husband is almost >44 years old and doesn't want more kids, is too chicken to have a >vasectomy, won't allow me to take any form of birth control (we >don't believe in it for spiritual reasons), and I refuse to be cut >open again! Oh well, guess I need to see my doctor, but thought >maybe that book of yours says something about what bleeding between >periods means related to ovulation. Thanks! > >Donna > > Just >make the > > > appointment for him like I did...it worked better that way. >hehehe > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > Re: Re: DBB >alternatives? > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd >get > > > himself done instead...now following through is a different >matter. > > > > s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 He wouldn't agree to an IUD or over the counter options? Hmmm, not to bash your religion mind you, seriously.. s. Re: Re: DBB alternatives? > > > > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd get > > himself done instead...now following through is a different matter. > > > s. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 At 01:23 PM 1/12/2006, you wrote: > " Taking Charge of Your Fertility " is an awesome book! But, while we >did track cycles, etc. in order to GET pregnant, I'm not sure I would >trust the method in order to NOT get pregnant. It can be done, you just have to take the rules for getting pg, turn it around and add a day or two to each side to be sure. Also, anything *wet* is considered fertile (even if we know it isn't lol) and then you have to add two days to any *wet* day ending using either abstinence or barrier method. In the end, it means you have to be ultra conservative but it CAN be done. The failure rate is actually equal to whatever barrier method you use during fertile days (including any and all wet days, plus two at any other time in the cycle). So if you use a condom, it's 99.99% or whatever the condom says. If you use abstinence... well that's 100% lol. After a while of doing it day in, day out... especially if you have any sort of regularity you end up knowing where you are at any given time and I think... that *wet day* rule can even be skimped on. With temps (that show spike) and CF charting, cervix position/sensation... If you're doing all that and never see anything near fertile quality CF after the spike... but just wet... well... I myself trust it. Using it for BC can be somewhat restrictive, the only truly for absolute sure without checking anything safe time is the first 5 days of your cycle (usually during a bleed) and after the temp spike (+2, or any more wet days +2) but that still gives you plenty of safe days if you check the 3 times per day like you're supposed to. Sure there's a slight possibility of a double ovulation, but that will happen within a couple of days of the first spike and CF should remain fertile till that happens (RARE!). If you know what to look for, you're pretty good to go as long as you're physically charting. Seems like a lot of work, but it's not really once it's second nature (kinda like all this CF stuff in a way lol). I'm not saying it's for everyone, but it's worth a look to see if it may be the answer for each person individually. I for one... can't take hormonal BC. We also are creative... so rarely have to use barrier methods lol. Not so bad for me. If I ever would mistakenly get pg... it'd be because *I* wasn't doing what I should, not the failure of the method. Kori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Was that picture for real??? Truthfully while not set in concrete on the decision, I do highly agree with you on birth control. Like who are we to interfer with God's plans regarding birth or death? I " m not comfortable with the use of bc either - it does seem to be telling God what to do. It's why I opted out of fertility treatments 15 years ago and have since been blessed with three sons! Anyway, what I mean to say is that maybe you all don't want more, but like you said, it's in God's hands. s. Re: Re: DBB > alternatives? > > > > > > > > > > > > I told him I wanted my tubes tied and he said he'd > get > > > himself done instead...now following through is a different > matter. > > > > s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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