Re: discipline

[Guest guest]

I read all of your post-op posts and I think " wow, those guys are so

disciplined! " Protein first, no sweets, keep carbs to a minimum. Can I ask

you all.....were you as disciplined before surgery? or were you like me, one

with good intentions who thinks, " today I will eat only protein " but then

blows it without realizing it? Is it the surgery that makes it easier to be

disciplined? Is it the fact that you KNOW what you have gone thru to lose

weight and you are determined not to blow it? Or is it easier to eat

correctly BECAUSE of the surgery? I am just afraid I won't be as disciplined

as all you are, and I WANT to be. But I find myself with never enough time

and eating on the " run " - I wonder will I have the time to take care of

preparing my meals after I get the surgery? I wonder, will I have the time

and desire to excersize after the surgery? (I know the one time I lost a lot

of weight and kept it off for 3 yrs, I found myself WANTING to exercise, but

I had a lot more time then, too.)

I just want to know - were you all very disciplined people beforehand or was

it just a decision you made and then stuck with it - or was it a little

easier with the surgery as a help?

Carole

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2001 4:01:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

MsMystic1@... writes:

> .....were you as disciplined before surgery

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was horrible...I NEVER ate right...NEVER. I don't know

what changed with the surgery...today at just over 2 months I had my first

real sweet. A wife of one of the guys brought in the best cheesecake as a

thank you for the baby stuff we gave them for their new daughter. I ate a

piece...it was so damn good!! Its the only sweet thing that has actually

tasted as good as it sounded. My tastes have changed...and I think when you

know you'll get really sick ifyou dont eat right...I guess that helps. Its

weird tho...I admit it. It just is the way it is. I'm very proud of myself

for sticking to eating right.

~*~ AJ ~*~

Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs!

08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -27.9 lbs!

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs!

09/10/01 BMI 56.7 373.0 -42.1 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/01 6:18:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

melaniemag@... writes:

> 2500 calories per day, 75-80 grams of protein, with food sources

> breaking down to roughly 40% fat, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Some

It sounds like SOOO much food...LOL I journaled a couple days this past week

and I can't believe how little I eat and I never feel deprived or hungry...if

I do I remedy the situation...LOL Has anyone talked or met anyone that had

the surgery even further out than 2 years???

~~* AJ *~~

Age 37 5'8''

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! -10.75 inches

08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -28.1 lbs! -11.25 inches

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! -15.5 inches

08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! -21.25 inches

09/10/01 BMI 57 373.0 -42.1 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55 367.1 -48.0 lbs!

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[Guest guest]

Carole,

I've been pre-op for a year and I can tell you it doesn't seem as hard as it

sounds...eat protein first is the main key..does everyone protein first for

every single meal ? Nope, not always. It's not about denial, it's just about

health since you want to make sure you get 60-80 grms of protein a day. No one

is saying you can't have that bite of bread or even that bite of chocolate, it's

just since you have a limited amount of room, you need to focus on getting your

daily requirement of protein first and then you can have some carbs or a little

sugar if you have room..you won't have room for a while! While you do want to

minimize your carbs and sugar, when you feel full just eating protein and a bite

or two of veggies and carbs, you're just not in the mood to want more! If you

look at some of the long term post ops like and Kris, they do focus on

protein, but they don't deny themselves some bread or dessert if they want, now

that they have room! has even said she really hasn't changed what she

eats that much or increased her exercise and she's down to 156lbs! The main

difference is that you feel satisfied with less, so you're eating in moderation

and you don't feel like you're denying yourself which tends to lead to those

food cravings, binging and then that guilt!

Anita

Pre-op in Denver

> I read all of your post-op posts and I think " wow, those guys are so

> disciplined! " Protein first, no sweets, keep carbs to a minimum. Can I ask

you all.....were you as disciplined before surgery? or were you like me, one

> with good intentions who thinks, " today I will eat only protein " but then

blows it without realizing it? Is it the surgery that makes it easier to be

disciplined? Is it the fact that you KNOW what you have gone thru to lose

> weight and you are determined not to blow it? Or is it easier to eat

> correctly BECAUSE of the surgery? I am just afraid I won't be as disciplined

> as all you are, and I WANT to be. But I find myself with never enough time

> and eating on the " run " - I wonder will I have the time to take care of

> preparing my meals after I get the surgery? I wonder, will I have the time

> and desire to excersize after the surgery? (I know the one time I lost a lot

> of weight and kept it off for 3 yrs, I found myself WANTING to exercise, but

> I had a lot more time then, too.)

> I just want to know - were you all very disciplined people beforehand or was

> it just a decision you made and then stuck with it - or was it a little

> easier with the surgery as a help?

> Carole

[Guest guest]

Hi Carole -

For me, after eating my protein, I could care less about eating anything

else - éclairs, bonbons, whatever. I'm not any more disciplined. I just

get really stuffed eating my protein.

Best-

Nick in Sage

Dr. Keshishian

8/29/01

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Mel! I love this surgery! :-)

> > If you look at some of the long term post ops

> > like and Kris, they do focus on protein, but they

> > don't deny themselves some bread or dessert if they want, now

> > that they have room! has even said she really hasn't

> > changed what she eats that much or increased her exercise and

> > she's down to 156lbs! The main difference is that you feel

> > satisfied with less, so you're eating in moderation and you

> > don't feel like you're denying yourself which tends to lead

> > to those food cravings, binging and then that guilt!

>

> Since my surgery, my eating has progressively gotten more varied,

and as

> my stomach capacity has increased, I have gradually added more carbs

and

> sweets to my intake. I don't routinely count protein grams, but I

> generally try to get some protein in every meal. When I did a few

days

> journaling recently, I found that my current intake breaks averages

> about 2500 calories per day, 75-80 grams of protein, with food

sources

> breaking down to roughly 40% fat, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Some

days I

> eat more than others. Some meals I eat more than others. Some days I

can

> eat an entire steak, other days I can barely get half a steak in.

Who

> knows why. I just eat what I want, when I want, with only a couple

of

> hard and fast rules:

>

> 1.) Don't drink sugars. (No full-sugar sodas, no full-sugar tea,

tiny

> bit of fruit juice once in a blue moon)

> 2.) Do not skip vitamins (Never missing a dose is the best thing I

do

> and I'm proud of achieving this goal!)

> 3.) Common sense and moderation in all things, but no deprivation

thank

> you very much.

>

> Aside from that, all bets are off.

>

> M.

>

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> Starting weight 299, now 156

> Starting BMI 49.7, now 26.0

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>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/01 6:12:03 PM Central Daylight Time,

MsMystic1@... writes:

> Can I ask

> you all.....were you as disciplined before surgery? or were you like me,

> one

> with good intentions who thinks, " today I will eat only protein " but then

> blows it without realizing it? Is it the surgery that makes it easier to

> be

>

Carole,

My response to this is that I have NOT had to be disciplined except for right

after surgery I was VERY disciplined to get my water in. The only other

discipline has been " protein first " and " think protein " . Now people who are

" disciplined " with eating low carb, etc., will likely get a bigger percentage

of their weight off. I am at 76% of my excess weight off and am very, very,

very happy with how stable my weight is. So yes, I do think the surgery

helps many to be disciplined, but the surgery also works very well for those

of us that are rebellious. I am, however, VERY disciplined about my vitamins

as well. I was a horrible pill taker preop, but have forced myself to be an

excellent pill taker post op. I think the thought of osteoperoris does this

for me.

Basically, what I am saying is that the surgery has done almost all of the

work in my case.

Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165  5'  4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

[Guest guest]

I read all of your post-op posts and I think " wow, those guys are so

disciplined! " Protein first, no sweets, keep carbs to a minimum. Can I ask

you all.....were you as disciplined before surgery?

Carole,

I can answer that in one word NO

I was not disciplined before, at least not for any long period. Actually

even now I do slip, but I know that in order to keep my health, I MUST

follow the instructions. I MUST eat enough protein daily, I MUST take my

supplements.

Because I MUST get my protein, I HAVE TO eat protein first to make sure I

can get it in since I can only eat a little. I had this operation because I

want to live a long time and be able to enjoy that life.

If you are not ready to make that commitment, you shouldn't have the

operation, you are not ready. I can slip for a day or two, but must get on

track again. Some people can get away with eating candy and such every day,

I'm not one of those. As for exercise, that is one of my weak spots. I was

very inactive before and it is difficult to get moving now. It seems that

everything I enjoy doing is something sitting down. I have to make more of

an effort to be active.

Eating on the " run " can be worked around, many can give you tips on how to

accomplish this.

Rita Black

[Guest guest]

Carole

Dr Scholten insisted we show a weight loss prior to surgery. As

difficult as it was to lose the weight I was glad he imposed that rule. He

explained that there were many benefits to losing weight before surgery

including the fact that the swelling in your organs went down prior to

surgery and made the surgery itself easier.

Renae

>From: dwkteach@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: Re: Re: discipline

>Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:26:03 EDT

>

>In a message dated 9/25/01 6:12:03 PM Central Daylight Time,

>MsMystic1@... writes:

>

>

> > Can I ask

> > you all.....were you as disciplined before surgery? or were you like

>me,

> > one

> > with good intentions who thinks, " today I will eat only protein " but

>then

> > blows it without realizing it? Is it the surgery that makes it easier

>to

> > be

> >

>

>Carole,

>

>My response to this is that I have NOT had to be disciplined except for

>right

>after surgery I was VERY disciplined to get my water in. The only other

>discipline has been " protein first " and " think protein " . Now people who

>are

> " disciplined " with eating low carb, etc., will likely get a bigger

>percentage

>of their weight off. I am at 76% of my excess weight off and am very,

>very,

>very happy with how stable my weight is. So yes, I do think the surgery

>helps many to be disciplined, but the surgery also works very well for

>those

>of us that are rebellious. I am, however, VERY disciplined about my

>vitamins

>as well. I was a horrible pill taker preop, but have forced myself to be

>an

>excellent pill taker post op. I think the thought of osteoperoris does

>this

>for me.

>

>Basically, what I am saying is that the surgery has done almost all of the

>work in my case.

>

>Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

>Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

>BPD/DS

>4/27/00

>www.duodenalswitch.com

>267 to 165  5'  4 "

>size 22 to size 10

>have made size goal

>no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

>

>

>