measurements

[Guest guest]

>Girl I darned near fell out of my seat laughing...Doug came rushing

in to find out what was so funny!!! No far making the sickie laugh!!

Gretchen

>

> Jaci

> (It's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's.. SUPER HIPS!)

[Guest guest]

Good for you Jaci! Now we can track back later on and see how these

parts are doing! A do a lot of parts because I am fat on all over,

and it usually leaves my boobs first of course! WE are going to do It.

Love eleanora

> Okay el, you made me do it. Here's mine.

>

> Bust = 42

> Waist = 44

> Hips = 56.5 (holy 12.5 " difference from my waist, batman!)

> Thighs = 26.5

> Biceps = 12.5

> Neck = 14.5

> Wrist = 6.5

>

> Jaci

> (It's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's.. SUPER HIPS!)

[Guest guest]

> and it usually leaves my boobs first of course!

With me, it's the feet and hands, then the face, then the upper back.

This is why when I lost 40 pounds I never changed clothing sizes - I lost

where it didn't show.

BUT, I'm determined to lose enough now to *make* a difference! My short term

goal is to be a size XL t-shirt by Christmas. Right now a 3x-4x is comfy and

loose, the way I like them, 2X fits OK if cut full, but cheap 2x and

anything below is impossible to wear without feeling like a stuffed sausage.

Sue in NJ

who loves novelty tee's but can rarely find them in bigger sizes at a decent

price

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/5/02 8:30:11 PM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

> Dallas weighs approximately 100#, is almost 8 years old, has a waist size of

>

> about

> 31 " and is 50 " tall.

Wow......just re read your post.....'s 8 too, and is 46 " tall and weighs

just 50 lbs.!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/6/02 9:20:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@...

writes:

> Wow......just re read your post.....'s 8 too, and is 46 " tall and weighs

> just 50 lbs.!!

>

>

Maddie is 50 pounds too . But can FEEL like 250!!!

Donna

[Guest guest]

,

My measurements seemed to have stopped moving too, although I know

there are so many variables to this. I know they have to be going

down, because I used a new notch in my belt this morning! But I find

even the tape measure decieving, depending on the time of day, where

I'm measuring, i can get drastically different results.

And I'm with you on logging food. I went off calorie counting for a

couple months, and made zero progress. Unfortunatly, it seems to

work for me, I have to do it to get results.

> Hi, Everybody! I've been reading everyone's post and just wanted

to

> give my update. I'm a little discouraged; but I'm trying to keep

my

> head up. I took my measurements this morning. I know I shouldn't

> expect a miraculous change; but sometimes it's hard, as you all

> know. I make it a point to take my measurements, weight, and body

> fat percentage every 15 days so that I can see if a difference is

> being made. Not too much has happen with the scale - no new

surprise

> there. My measurements have increased for total body of 5.5

inches.

> However, my body fat has decreased 1.3%.

>

> Now I know, I should see this as a new beginning but...it just

> irritates me that my measurements didn't go down. I didn't expect

> anything to happen with weight. It seems like it takes forever and

a

> day for my scale to go down! LOL! I do have to admit, girls, I've

> been extremely lax about my food journal. I think I'm going to

have

> to REALLY buckle down and start writing down EVERY piece of food

that

> goes in my mouth again! It's funny, though, at work I'm such a

> planner, a really great organizer; but when it comes to me,

> personally, like writing in my journal for exercises, food log,

etc.

> I just can't seem to commit myself to doing it. I always find some

> lame excuse to do it later, and as you know, later never comes.

But

> really, I've just got to buckle down and COMMIT to planning out

> meals, and writing in my journal.

>

> Well, thanks everyone, for reading my CRAZY ravings! I hope

everyone

> is doing well.

>

> TGIF!

>

[Guest guest]

,

Keep up the good work. It takes time for our bodies to change. What

always encourages me is the fact that I didn't wake up one morning out

of shape...I worked at it well by eating everything I wasn't suppose

to :-) And over time I ended up overweight. In the same way it takes

a little time for our bodies to drop that stubborn fat that's been

sitting there for awhile. I'm doing my body composition monthly. I

think I would wear my nerves too thin doing it more frequently than

that. I had a friend that in weeks 9 and 10 her body changed the

most. For me in CH1 it was week 8. Just keep up the great work.

It's worth it!

Blessings,

> > Hi, Everybody! I've been reading everyone's post and just wanted

> to

> > give my update. I'm a little discouraged; but I'm trying to keep

> my

> > head up. I took my measurements this morning. I know I shouldn't

> > expect a miraculous change; but sometimes it's hard, as you all

> > know. I make it a point to take my measurements, weight, and body

> > fat percentage every 15 days so that I can see if a difference is

> > being made. Not too much has happen with the scale - no new

> surprise

> > there. My measurements have increased for total body of 5.5

> inches.

> > However, my body fat has decreased 1.3%.

> >

> > Now I know, I should see this as a new beginning but...it just

> > irritates me that my measurements didn't go down. I didn't expect

> > anything to happen with weight. It seems like it takes forever and

> a

> > day for my scale to go down! LOL! I do have to admit, girls, I've

> > been extremely lax about my food journal. I think I'm going to

> have

> > to REALLY buckle down and start writing down EVERY piece of food

> that

> > goes in my mouth again! It's funny, though, at work I'm such a

> > planner, a really great organizer; but when it comes to me,

> > personally, like writing in my journal for exercises, food log,

> etc.

> > I just can't seem to commit myself to doing it. I always find some

> > lame excuse to do it later, and as you know, later never comes.

> But

> > really, I've just got to buckle down and COMMIT to planning out

> > meals, and writing in my journal.

> >

> > Well, thanks everyone, for reading my CRAZY ravings! I hope

> everyone

> > is doing well.

> >

> > TGIF!

> >

[Guest guest]

> I got this list from someone at Clubhouse, I hope it helps.

Thanks. I added this to the Files section for future reference.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

I don't know if there's a certain place that's right to measure, as

long as you keep it consistent. I just use easy " landmarks " and I

write them down on my measurement sheet, so I know right where I

measured last time. Like I measure my ribs...and I wrote down that

I put the tape measure right under my boobs. Or I measure right at

my belly button, the largest part of my thigh, largest part of my

calf, right around the middle of my butt, etc. I think as long as

you keep it in the same place, it doesn't really matter where you

measure.

[Guest guest]

I'm glad to see someone else doing ribs.I have had some people think

I was strange for doing it. That is one place you measure for fitting

a bra, so it makes since to me. Also I measure above my boobs, under

my arm pits. In the last year I have lost 4.5 inches from arm pit

area, 4.75 from chest & 4 from ribs.

> I don't know if there's a certain place that's right to measure, as

> long as you keep it consistent. I just use easy " landmarks " and I

> write them down on my measurement sheet, so I know right where I

> measured last time. Like I measure my ribs...and I wrote down that

> I put the tape measure right under my boobs. Or I measure right at

> my belly button, the largest part of my thigh, largest part of my

> calf, right around the middle of my butt, etc. I think as long as

> you keep it in the same place, it doesn't really matter where you

> measure.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Laurie,

We must be long lost twins! I'm height 5'5 " , waist 27, hips 36, thighs

21 and chest 33. But I'm 117lb. so you must have more muscle. I'm only

challenge one, so I plan on possibly weighing more when I'm BUFF!

-Shaun

(I figure your waist isn't really 126.5 as you typed below. That would

be an odd shape.:-)

----Original Message-----

From: Laurie [mailto:laurie.smith@...]

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:02 PM

Subject: Re: Some New Pictures - FINALLY

Hey Karla,

I am 5'5 " and 124lbs, - waist is 126.5, hips are 36.5, thighs are 21.5,

bf is 18%-ish, chest is 33 " . I know how you feel, 'cause when I look in

the mirror I think the same thing! I was wondering the same thing

this morning. (I mean what is wrong with me, not what is wrong with

you...). I would love to be your size! <g>

Laurie

C2D552

RE: Some New Pictures -

FINALLY

- I totally understand. Let me ask this then...It look like you

have but just wondering if you have seen a dramatic drop in your

thighs?

It is my problem area and I an just wondering about other peoples

success.

Thanks K

[Guest guest]

Well, I already have a twin (really! We are identical, although she is heavy

right now). Nice typo eh? <sheesh? My keyboarding skills are going down the

tubes...

So here are my questions, how much do you want to gain? What is your bf now?

what is your goal?

Laurie

RE: Some New Pictures -

FINALLY

- I totally understand. Let me ask this then...It look like you

have but just wondering if you have seen a dramatic drop in your

thighs?

It is my problem area and I an just wondering about other peoples

success.

Thanks K

[Guest guest]

I don't really care what the ending scale weight is. The fat track says

I'm anywhere from 18-26%. Nice spread, huh? I think I'm about 20%. I'd

love to be 15%, but I don't know if that's possible. I've never been

strong, so being strong is a huge goal. I'd love to lose 2 inches in the

waist. I don't know if that's wishful thinking.

Re: measurements

Well, I already have a twin (really! We are identical, although she is

heavy right now). Nice typo eh? <sheesh? My keyboarding skills are going

down the tubes...

So here are my questions, how much do you want to gain? What is your bf

now? what is your goal?

Laurie

RE: Some New Pictures -

FINALLY

- I totally understand. Let me ask this then...It look like

you

have but just wondering if you have seen a dramatic drop in your

thighs?

It is my problem area and I an just wondering about other peoples

success.

Thanks K

[Guest guest]

Lynda

Gosh I am glad you caught that before someone uses those measurements!

This is my measurements for drops.

There are approximately 600 drops in an oz.

150 Drops would be approximately .25 oz. Or ½ ts

60 drops to a milliliter --5 milliliters to a teaspoon

I also have a Terriffic converter program on my site written by J. Madison

and it does everything but the kitchen sink, I keep it on my desktop and use

it all the time. It is a tiny program so does not take much disk space

either.

download for free at http://wwww.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com/recipe1.html

hth

Sherry

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[Guest guest]

I pretty much just measure the parts of my body that are important

to me... for example, I'm pear-shaped so i measure my waist, hips

and thigh. I also measure my bicep, because i was curious to see if

it had changed. I don't waste time measuring parts of my body that

aren't as important to me, such as my calves.

> what all measurments do you guys take? thanks

[Guest guest]

Alice,

If a researcher performed a multi-site study on these data, then

permissions would be signed and the data would be collected anonymously.

Some of this is done now, but as I said, according to the manufacturers,

they are not getting all the data, only the favorable numbers.

I'm thinking of an independent study not connected to any center or

manufacturer. The levels would need to be set by the design and

criteria for inclusion would include being able to have ones best scores

to date at that level.

Since the majority of people with majority insertion and electrode

activation are mapped between 25 and 30 dB, setting these levels at 70

dB in the calibrated sound field would be very reasonable.

I envision such a study being funded by NIH or some neutral body with

patients coming to neutral, non-affiliated test facilities (paid for

their time and travel) using their current " best working " maps. There

would be 20 or 30 sites across the country (worldwide later) and all

data would be included in the results regardless.

They'd be tested with CI alone and then separately with any ALD's they

use, and also on their own telephone (if available).

Time of deafness, time of implantation, processing strategy, electrodes,

T and M levels, processors with software versions, etc would all be

recorded and then the results would be grouped so that as near as

possible, the apples, pears and oranges would be compared to each other,

but also to the larger group to look at multiple levels of

relationships.

While " success " is still individual, this kind of study would provide a

lot more information as to general trends (if there are any) so that all

concerned would have a much broader base from which to form opinions and

make decisions.

And yes, I would consider doing this myself in a few years when I'm able

to uproot and move to a university that studies such things. :-)

____________________________________________

Best Regards,

Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA

Editor

EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network

www.bradingrao.com

e-mail: info@...

Measurements

Brad,

This is part of the normal testing of a CI recipient and comparisons are

done but I'm not sure of the HINT levels. This information is kept in

the patient's file and is, by law, not something that audiologists can

share. I'm not sure how you would ever be able to get accurate figures

on this unless a number of our members volunteer to ask their

audiologist to share this with them so that they provide it here.

Alice

<Yes, assuming of course that you measure the before and after the same

way and agree those measures actually are a reasonable yardstick of what

" hearing " is.

I would think that recorded HINT sentences at a fixed level (60 or 70

dB, while it is still limited, would be a reasonable yardstick.>

[Guest guest]

Brad,

I have participated in some of the research studies that University

of Michigan does.. figuring if by doing this I can possibly make the

way better for upcoming technology which could be very beneficial to

my family as the need for ci's grows and I know of a few other

people who often take part in these studies too.. I could give you

a contact name if you would like to see just what kind of studies

they do.. Only problem they have is coming up with enough test

subjects at any given time as it's all on a voluntary basis(being

reimbursed too).. Research is sorely lacking in this aspect, so

often the same few subjects are tested in various areas..

U of M does test people with all brands of ci too..but not sure if

this is the type of testing you are talking about.

Regards,

Silly MI

In , " Brad Ingrao " <bingrao@h...> wrote:

> Alice,

>

> If a researcher performed a multi-site study on these data, then

> permissions would be signed and the data would be collected

anonymously.

> Some of this is done now, but as I said, according to the

manufacturers,

> they are not getting all the data, only the favorable numbers.

>

> I'm thinking of an independent study not connected to any center or

> manufacturer. The levels would need to be set by the design and

> criteria for inclusion would include being able to have ones best

scores

> to date at that level.

>

> Since the majority of people with majority insertion and electrode

> activation are mapped between 25 and 30 dB, setting these levels

at 70

> dB in the calibrated sound field would be very reasonable.

>

> I envision such a study being funded by NIH or some neutral body

with

> patients coming to neutral, non-affiliated test facilities (paid

for

> their time and travel) using their current " best working " maps.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/28/2004 2:58:14 PM Central Standard Time, sagebush2020@... writes:

Ouf!

____

Is that related to the Ouf tah! I hear from my Scandanavian friends?

Just checking in to comment that I soon see my MD again, and this is the time he wants to take measurements. He keeps a log of how his knees turn out.....how many degrees flexion, how much extension, etc. Do your MD's do that? He indicates that the amount of flexion you can get in three months is about all you can expect to gain. Now I'm wishing i had gone at it harder in the beginning......but that's when everyone was telling me knees were not supposed to go beyond 120 degrees. I could already get 130 on a good day, but quit working it for awhile, until I had a chance to ask him if I should be going that far.

y

[Guest guest]

Could be, but not when it emerges from my tongue.

It's a French counterpart to " wow! " or " gosh!ª or " Oh, my god! "

Staninfrance

> Ouf!

> ____

> Is that related to the Ouf tah! I hear from my Scandanavian

friends?

>

> Just checking in to comment that I soon see my MD again, and this

is the time

> he wants to take measurements. He keeps a log of how his knees

turn

> out.....how many degrees flexion, how much extension, etc. Do

your MD's do that? He

> indicates that the amount of flexion you can get in three months

is about all

> you can expect to gain. Now I'm wishing i had gone at it harder

in the

> beginning......but that's when everyone was telling me knees were

not supposed to go

> beyond 120 degrees. I could already get 130 on a good day, but

quit working

> it for awhile, until I had a chance to ask him if I should be

going that far.

> y

[Guest guest]

>> So, that's a total of 38 inches lost (wow, that's the first time

> I've added that up! LOL)

>

WOOHOO SNOOPY DANCE!! That's terrific! I usually read the site from

work (shhh) so I didn't get a chance to check out your pics. It

sounds like you have made some amazing progress!

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Thanks :-)

>

> WOOHOO SNOOPY DANCE!! That's terrific! I usually read the site

from work (shhh) so I didn't get a chance to check out your pics. It

> sounds like you have made some amazing progress!

>

> Colleen

>

> >> So, that's a total of 38 inches lost (wow, that's the first

time I've added that up! LOL)

[Guest guest]

>Did you do yours for jan?

Yep. And as I suspected, even though I'm around 15 pounds more than last year, the measurements are exactly the same. I gain and lose in areas where it doesn't much matter, like in my legs, cheeks (all 4), between the shoulder blades, cup size.

Sue in NJ

who has been wearing 26/28 at 220 as well as 292 and everything in-between

[Guest guest]

First, you need to know your percentage of body fat. You can get it

tested at the gym, use your own calipers or Tanita scale, or you can

use one of the online calculators like biofitness:

http://www.biofitness.com/abodyfat.html

Once you know your percentage, it's just a little math.

If someone weighs 150 pounds with 25% body fat, that means 25% of

their total weight is fat (150 x .25 = 37.5). So, they have 37.5 lbs

of fat. The rest of their weight includes anything that's not fat

(bones, skin, organs, water, etc.) and that's called their lean mass.

Subtract your fat weight from your total weight (150 - 37.5 = 112.5)

and you get a lean mass of 112.5 pounds.

Run those numbers again in a few weeks and you can see what's changed.

Be aware that changes in lean mass don't always mean you've gained or

lost muscle. It can also be fluctuations in water weight.

If you have Microsoft Excel, there's a fat loss / muscle gain

calculator in the club Files section:

/files/

It will crunch the numbers for you. You just fill in the yellow boxes.

On 4/15/05, fuzzyelfone <fuzzyelf@...> wrote:

>

>

> how do people do measurements for the whole " I lost 10 lbs fat and

> gained 7lbs mx " ? How do you figure that out?

[Guest guest]

Hi e,

Yes, everything by weight. :-) That way all your measurements stay

consistent.

HTH!

laurenegilbert wrote:

> Hi there,

>

> Being no expert soap maker by any means and I having not made soap in

> a year, I suddenly became confused about weighing water for the

> recipes. I understand that all solid and liquid fats and oils, unless

> otherwise stated, are by weight, not volume, but do I weigh the water

> as well? Sorry for sounding so inexperienced, but I am!

>

> e

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[Guest guest]

Water is the one thing you have some real flexibility with. For one

thing, a wide range of water discounts can be taken. So if you're off a

bit, it makes no difference.

Water is used in the definition of the ounce, in that one fluid ounce

weighs exactly one ounce. This is true under clearly defined conditions

of course, and measuring cups may not be exact, but you certainly can

measure your water either way you please. Weigh everything else.

Diane

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>laurenegilbert wrote:

>

>

>>Hi there,

>>

>>Being no expert soap maker by any means and I having not made soap in

>>a year, I suddenly became confused about weighing water for the

>>recipes. I understand that all solid and liquid fats and oils, unless

>>otherwise stated, are by weight, not volume, but do I weigh the water

>>as well? Sorry for sounding so inexperienced, but I am!

>>

>>e

>>