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Donna and Jenn - I've been reading your posts over and over again. You two are really helping me. Jenn, I'm having a heck of a time with my 10% just like you are. I have had a kidney transplant and I am also fighting steroids (baaaaaaaddd drug!) so the struggle is compounded somewhat. I am exercising (water aerobics at the "Y") but now I think I need to step things up a bit so I'm going to be doing Chair Dancing in the mornings as well.

Thanks so much for your insights. You and , Francisco all deserve great big hugs as so many people on this list do! I'm so glad I'm a member of this group!

Thanks again,

in Cupertino

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Thank you Francisco! I would Love to meet you and someday! I am discouraged a lot of the times because I get so sick with all of the co-morbidities. All the pills that I take make me feel really sick (to my stomach) and I hurt a lot of the times with the diabetic neuropathy. ! You have 5 kids? I have 4. I am a stay-at-home mom, they are 13, 11, almost 4 & 2. Do you stay at home & how old are they. I have different struggles than a working person. I am around food/fridge 24/7 practically because these kids, they gotta eat darn it! hahaha Anyway, I really want to meet you guys. Please tell me when you go to your next support group or whatever in SSF and maybe I can meet you guys there. I live in Sacramento but I would drive all the way there just to meet you

two! Love, Jenn www.katchick.com Diane Duenas wrote: AWWW, thank you Francisco. But you are right, no one gets me like you do. You have also opened my heart and eyes to new perspectives and for that I will always cherish our friendship. You are a great spirit my friend. Im glad I met you on this journey...one we walk together not alone!Huggles> > >> > > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to

> Francisco. > > I > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get lost > > here > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It was > > deep. > > > O well. > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, Francisco > of > > > all the wonderful things that you have found since you had the > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most important > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is that my > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told my > step > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is that? > I > > > expect to take off another five years as the months go by. This > is > > > just miraculous. > >

> I also mentioned something about my process here. I find > that > > I > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to nibble when > I > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice of > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor told > me > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because that is > > > how people gain weight. I tried to do it with discipline and it > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this nibbling > as > > a > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I am to > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it as I > > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy candy and popcorn and > > > eat it in

my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. That > is > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to nibble > > late > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me that > wants > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel guilty and > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse behaviors. In > > any > > > case, there are other > > > things I can do when I come into the house, like thumb through > the > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But at night, I have to order myself > out > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs yet. > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but I love all > kinds > > > of dancing. I have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. Then

> I > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when I can > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on this > > > board. Lilka> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Jenn You can do this, I have two college boys, there girlfriends, run a in home daycare of 6 children which there are 2--1 year olds, 2--3 year olds, 1--4 year old, 1--5 year old and sometimes a 8 year old drops in. Plus my husband with mental illness, which he now lives in his own house. We have separated, but are still very close. We did this to see if it would help him (long story). Anyways I have screws in my feet with pieces of hip that was used to fix my feet when they would break, I had 3 foot operation, wore cast all different times (6 months at a time) before, during and after surgeries on my feet, used crutches and all this lasted for 5 years. I have a really bad knee that may still need knee replacement some day, I have asthma, fibromyalgia, and arthritis. I was so bad before the weight lose surgery I had all this plus so much more my list could fill this page, I was taking 19 different medicines a

day. Now I take 3, I still have reflux some (it's not bad) I use to take 5 prilosec a day that's how bad it was, it was eating away my stomach liner, I only take one now and things look great. I had severe sleep apnea, I stopped breathing 44 times an hour, now I don't even use a CPAP machine anymore. I use to have to use inhalers 6 times plus a day for my asthma and would have such severe attacks, I couldn't hardly walk, it was a mess, I now only use 1 inhaler once a day and the doctor thinks I will stay here or maybe by next year get off all together. Like I said the list goes on, I was on deaths bed at 270 when I started, now at 138 I still have pain due to fibromyalgia,and bad knees and arthritis, but I exercise faithfully, I do swim aerobics (love it), ride my bicycle, walk a lot, use treadmill, and the elliptical (I limit the elliptical) makes my knees hurt a lot and have enough pain with them. I can tell you what, I may still have

pain and health problems that the WLS didn't fix, but I feel so wonderful even with the pain, I am so much more healthy, I am not on deaths bed. I just did the Relay for Life to fight cancer and could give back to others. Life is so much better now. Even with all the hardships life brings, for me doing all I can to help my boys finish college, running my own business and household, helping my husband who has mental illness, just losing my father less than 2 months ago, now helping my mother through this. We still need to be true to thy own self. Know what you need and no matter how much is on your plate, you must give yourself time to eat right, even when you're around food a lot. You have to set time for your planned meals. With daycare I feed the children, then the college ones come in and they eat. While the small ones are napping I eat my planned meal, I don't eat what they are if it's not on my meal plan. Yes it's not

easy when your having b-day cupcakes or spaghetti for lunch, but you have to learn there's so much more than food to life, like all the good advice Francisco gives. I relate to all he says and does. As far as drinking all you should, when I'm feeding every one else that is one thing I am doing, having a diet snapple or something helps me feel like I'm getting something, until it's my time to eat. You have to learn to be prepared for all the things you can and shouldn't do. Take your own foods, if you're going somewhere that is having something you can't. Make time to exercise, even if it's taking the kids to the park, I walk my daycare kids to the park everyday. While they are playing I run, chase them, play ball, Frisbee, fly kites, the more you do the more you'll want to do and this rubs off on the children, dance with your children. I always got up before my family and in enough time when I started the 10% lose to chair

dance, then run for the shower, to be done just in time for my daycare to open, as I lost the weight then walking instead of driving to the park, then instead of setting watching the children, joining in an having more fun. It just gets better, then finding time for things I've wanted to do and finally starting to do many different things. is a great gal, she will let you know she is not a stay home mom, she to is one busy gal. Francisco you know does so much. I have listened and learned and I am not stopping, I will do what I must, and many things that I never had a chance too, and there is no black holes no matter what hardships life brings, because staying busy is such a good thing and I'm having so much fun. Enjoy life and see the beauty. Do this and you will know what we all mean who has had this WLS, so lose that 10%, you can do it. Take care. Donna J. Hadsell

wrote: Thank you Francisco! I would Love to meet you and someday! I am discouraged a lot of the times because I get so sick with all of the co-morbidities. All the pills that I take make me feel really sick (to my stomach) and I hurt a lot of the times with the diabetic neuropathy. ! You have 5 kids? I have 4. I am a stay-at-home mom, they are 13, 11, almost 4 & 2. Do you stay at home & how old are they. I have different struggles than a working person. I am around food/fridge 24/7 practically because these kids, they gotta eat darn it! hahaha Anyway, I really want to meet you guys. Please tell me when you go to your

next support group or whatever in SSF and maybe I can meet you guys there. I live in Sacramento but I would drive all the way there just to meet you two! Love, Jenn www.katchick.com Diane Duenas wrote: AWWW, thank you Francisco. But you are right, no one gets me like you do. You have also opened my heart and eyes to new perspectives and for that I will always cherish our friendship. You are a great spirit my friend. Im glad I met you on this journey...one we walk together not alone!Huggles> > >> > > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to > Francisco. > > I > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get lost > > here > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It was > > deep. > > > O well. > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, Francisco > of > > > all the wonderful things that you have found since you had the > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most important > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is that my > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told my > step > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is that? > I > > > expect to take off

another five years as the months go by. This > is > > > just miraculous. > > > I also mentioned something about my process here. I find > that > > I > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to nibble when > I > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice of > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor told > me > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because that is > > > how people gain weight. I tried to do it with discipline and it > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this nibbling > as > > a > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I am to > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it as I

> > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy candy and popcorn and > > > eat it in my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. That > is > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to nibble > > late > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me that > wants > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel guilty and > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse behaviors. In > > any > > > case, there are other > > > things I can do when I come into the house, like thumb through > the > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But at night, I have to order myself > out > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs yet. > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but

I love all > kinds > > > of dancing. I have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. Then > I > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when I can > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on this > > > board. Lilka> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Donna! Thank You! Wow. You really were on death's bed!!! I feel that way A LOT too! But you really had some major issues to over-come and you are to be Highly Commended for all that you have achieved! Wow! Lately, for some reason, I've had a little more energy than most of the time. I've been doing a lot of running around (errands) and having fun with all of the kiddo's in between. I too take a lot of meds, around 7 different kinds of meds (not including all the vitamins) and about 22 total pills a day. They make me totally ILL. (diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol & anti-depression). THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY I WANT THE SURGERY, TO GET OFF OF ALL MEDS AND LIVE LIFE THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE LIVED, DAMN IT! hahahaha I would LOVE to

meet you too! You are always so nice to everyone here and I appreciate your post to me So Much! Love, Jenn Donna Jordon wrote: Jenn You can do this, I have two college boys, there girlfriends, run a in home daycare of 6 children which there are 2--1 year olds, 2--3 year olds, 1--4 year old, 1--5 year old and sometimes a 8 year old drops in. Plus my husband with mental illness, which he now lives in his own house. We have separated, but are still very close. We did this to see if it would help him (long story). Anyways I have screws in my feet with pieces of hip that was used to fix my feet when they would break, I had 3 foot operation, wore cast all different

times (6 months at a time) before, during and after surgeries on my feet, used crutches and all this lasted for 5 years. I have a really bad knee that may still need knee replacement some day, I have asthma, fibromyalgia, and arthritis. I was so bad before the weight lose surgery I had all this plus so much more my list could fill this page, I was taking 19 different medicines a day. Now I take 3, I still have reflux some (it's not bad) I use to take 5 prilosec a day that's how bad it was, it was eating away my stomach liner, I only take one now and things look great. I had severe sleep apnea, I stopped breathing 44 times an hour, now I don't even use a CPAP machine anymore. I use to have to use inhalers 6 times plus a day for my asthma and would have such severe attacks, I couldn't hardly walk, it was a mess, I now only use 1 inhaler once a day and the doctor thinks I will stay here or maybe by next year get off all together. Like

I said the list goes on, I was on deaths bed at 270 when I started, now at 138 I still have pain due to fibromyalgia,and bad knees and arthritis, but I exercise faithfully, I do swim aerobics (love it), ride my bicycle, walk a lot, use treadmill, and the elliptical (I limit the elliptical) makes my knees hurt a lot and have enough pain with them. I can tell you what, I may still have pain and health problems that the WLS didn't fix, but I feel so wonderful even with the pain, I am so much more healthy, I am not on deaths bed. I just did the Relay for Life to fight cancer and could give back to others. Life is so much better now. Even with all the hardships life brings, for me doing all I can to help my boys finish college, running my own business and household, helping my husband who has mental illness, just losing my father less than 2 months ago, now helping my mother through this. We still need to be true to thy own self. Know what you need

and no matter how much is on your plate, you must give yourself time to eat right, even when you're around food a lot. You have to set time for your planned meals. With daycare I feed the children, then the college ones come in and they eat. While the small ones are napping I eat my planned meal, I don't eat what they are if it's not on my meal plan. Yes it's not easy when your having b-day cupcakes or spaghetti for lunch, but you have to learn there's so much more than food to life, like all the good advice Francisco gives. I relate to all he says and does. As far as drinking all you should, when I'm feeding every one else that is one thing I am doing, having a diet snapple or something helps me feel like I'm getting something, until it's my time to eat. You have to learn to be prepared for all the things you can and shouldn't do. Take your own foods, if you're going somewhere that is having something you can't. Make

time to exercise, even if it's taking the kids to the park, I walk my daycare kids to the park everyday. While they are playing I run, chase them, play ball, Frisbee, fly kites, the more you do the more you'll want to do and this rubs off on the children, dance with your children. I always got up before my family and in enough time when I started the 10% lose to chair dance, then run for the shower, to be done just in time for my daycare to open, as I lost the weight then walking instead of driving to the park, then instead of setting watching the children, joining in an having more fun. It just gets better, then finding time for things I've wanted to do and finally starting to do many different things. is a great gal, she will let you know she is not a stay home mom, she to is one busy gal. Francisco you know does so much. I have listened and learned and I am not stopping, I will do what I must, and many things that I never

had a chance too, and there is no black holes no matter what hardships life brings, because staying busy is such a good thing and I'm having so much fun. Enjoy life and see the beauty. Do this and you will know what we all mean who has had this WLS, so lose that 10%, you can do it. Take care. Donna J. Hadsell wrote: Thank you Francisco! I would Love to meet you and someday! I am discouraged a lot of the times because I get so sick with all of the co-morbidities. All the pills that I take make me feel really sick (to my stomach) and I hurt a lot of the times with the diabetic neuropathy. ! You have 5 kids? I have 4. I am a stay-at-home mom, they are 13, 11, almost 4 & 2. Do

you stay at home & how old are they. I have different struggles than a working person. I am around food/fridge 24/7 practically because these kids, they gotta eat darn it! hahaha Anyway, I really want to meet you guys. Please tell me when you go to your next support group or whatever in SSF and maybe I can meet you guys there. I live in Sacramento but I would drive all the way there just to meet you two! Love, Jenn www.katchick.com Diane Duenas wrote: AWWW, thank you Francisco. But you are right, no one gets me like you do. You have also opened my heart and eyes

to new perspectives and for that I will always cherish our friendship. You are a great spirit my friend. Im glad I met you on this journey...one we walk together not alone!Huggles> > >> > > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to > Francisco. > > I > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get lost > > here > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It was > > deep. > > > O well. > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, Francisco > of > > > all the wonderful things that you have found since you had the > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most

important > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is that my > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told my > step > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is that? > I > > > expect to take off another five years as the months go by. This > is > > > just miraculous. > > > I also mentioned something about my process here. I find > that > > I > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to nibble when > I > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice of > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor told > me > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because that is > > > how people gain weight. I

tried to do it with discipline and it > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this nibbling > as > > a > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I am to > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it as I > > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy candy and popcorn and > > > eat it in my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. That > is > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to nibble > > late > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me that > wants > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel guilty and > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse behaviors. In > > any > > > case, there are other > > > things I

can do when I come into the house, like thumb through > the > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But at night, I have to order myself > out > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs yet. > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but I love all > kinds > > > of dancing. I have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. Then > I > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when I can > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on this > > > board. Lilka> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Jenn Your Welcome My 19 pills before WLS were all medicine, it was 32 counting vitamins. I know that sick feeling. That's why you need to really push the exercise, and do the meal plan, drink your water, take you vitamins and do what ever it takes. Then you will get to the other side and what a difference. Take care. Donna J. Hadsell wrote: Donna! Thank You! Wow. You really were on death's bed!!! I feel that way A LOT too! But you really had some major issues to over-come and you are to be Highly Commended for all that you have achieved! Wow! Lately, for some reason, I've had a little more energy than most of the time. I've been

doing a lot of running around (errands) and having fun with all of the kiddo's in between. I too take a lot of meds, around 7 different kinds of meds (not including all the vitamins) and about 22 total pills a day. They make me totally ILL. (diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol & anti-depression). THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY I WANT THE SURGERY, TO GET OFF OF ALL MEDS AND LIVE LIFE THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE LIVED, DAMN IT! hahahaha I would LOVE to meet you too! You are always so nice to everyone here and I appreciate your post to me So Much! Love, Jenn Donna Jordon wrote: Jenn

You can do this, I have two college boys, there girlfriends, run a in home daycare of 6 children which there are 2--1 year olds, 2--3 year olds, 1--4 year old, 1--5 year old and sometimes a 8 year old drops in. Plus my husband with mental illness, which he now lives in his own house. We have separated, but are still very close. We did this to see if it would help him (long story). Anyways I have screws in my feet with pieces of hip that was used to fix my feet when they would break, I had 3 foot operation, wore cast all different times (6 months at a time) before, during and after surgeries on my feet, used crutches and all this lasted for 5 years. I have a really bad knee that may still need knee replacement some day, I have asthma, fibromyalgia, and arthritis. I was so bad before the weight lose surgery I had all this plus so much more my list could fill this page, I was taking 19 different medicines a day. Now I take

3, I still have reflux some (it's not bad) I use to take 5 prilosec a day that's how bad it was, it was eating away my stomach liner, I only take one now and things look great. I had severe sleep apnea, I stopped breathing 44 times an hour, now I don't even use a CPAP machine anymore. I use to have to use inhalers 6 times plus a day for my asthma and would have such severe attacks, I couldn't hardly walk, it was a mess, I now only use 1 inhaler once a day and the doctor thinks I will stay here or maybe by next year get off all together. Like I said the list goes on, I was on deaths bed at 270 when I started, now at 138 I still have pain due to fibromyalgia,and bad knees and arthritis, but I exercise faithfully, I do swim aerobics (love it), ride my bicycle, walk a lot, use treadmill, and the elliptical (I limit the elliptical) makes my knees hurt a lot and have enough pain with them. I can tell you what, I may still have pain and health

problems that the WLS didn't fix, but I feel so wonderful even with the pain, I am so much more healthy, I am not on deaths bed. I just did the Relay for Life to fight cancer and could give back to others. Life is so much better now. Even with all the hardships life brings, for me doing all I can to help my boys finish college, running my own business and household, helping my husband who has mental illness, just losing my father less than 2 months ago, now helping my mother through this. We still need to be true to thy own self. Know what you need and no matter how much is on your plate, you must give yourself time to eat right, even when you're around food a lot. You have to set time for your planned meals. With daycare I feed the children, then the college ones come in and they eat. While the small ones are napping I eat my planned meal, I don't eat what they are if it's not on my meal plan. Yes it's not easy when your

having b-day cupcakes or spaghetti for lunch, but you have to learn there's so much more than food to life, like all the good advice Francisco gives. I relate to all he says and does. As far as drinking all you should, when I'm feeding every one else that is one thing I am doing, having a diet snapple or something helps me feel like I'm getting something, until it's my time to eat. You have to learn to be prepared for all the things you can and shouldn't do. Take your own foods, if you're going somewhere that is having something you can't. Make time to exercise, even if it's taking the kids to the park, I walk my daycare kids to the park everyday. While they are playing I run, chase them, play ball, Frisbee, fly kites, the more you do the more you'll want to do and this rubs off on the children, dance with your children. I always got up before my family and in enough time when I started the 10% lose to chair dance, then run

for the shower, to be done just in time for my daycare to open, as I lost the weight then walking instead of driving to the park, then instead of setting watching the children, joining in an having more fun. It just gets better, then finding time for things I've wanted to do and finally starting to do many different things. is a great gal, she will let you know she is not a stay home mom, she to is one busy gal. Francisco you know does so much. I have listened and learned and I am not stopping, I will do what I must, and many things that I never had a chance too, and there is no black holes no matter what hardships life brings, because staying busy is such a good thing and I'm having so much fun. Enjoy life and see the beauty. Do this and you will know what we all mean who has had this WLS, so lose that 10%, you can do it. Take care. Donna J. Hadsell wrote: Thank you Francisco! I would Love to meet you and someday! I am discouraged a lot of the times because I get so sick with all of the co-morbidities. All the pills that I take make me feel really sick (to my stomach) and I hurt a lot of the times with the diabetic neuropathy. ! You have 5 kids? I have 4. I am a stay-at-home mom, they are 13, 11, almost 4 & 2. Do you stay at home & how old are they. I have different struggles than a working person. I am around food/fridge 24/7 practically because these kids, they gotta eat darn it! hahaha Anyway, I really want to meet you guys. Please tell me when you go to your next support group or whatever in SSF and maybe I can

meet you guys there. I live in Sacramento but I would drive all the way there just to meet you two! Love, Jenn www.katchick.com Diane Duenas wrote: AWWW, thank you Francisco. But you are right, no one gets me like you do. You have also opened my heart and eyes to new perspectives and for that I will always cherish our friendship. You are a great spirit my friend. Im glad I met you on this journey...one we walk together not alone!Huggles> > >>

> > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to > Francisco. > > I > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get lost > > here > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It was > > deep. > > > O well. > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, Francisco > of > > > all the wonderful things that you have found since you had the > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most important > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is that my > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told my > step > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is that? > I > > > expect to take off another five years as the months go by. This >

is > > > just miraculous. > > > I also mentioned something about my process here. I find > that > > I > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to nibble when > I > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice of > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor told > me > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because that is > > > how people gain weight. I tried to do it with discipline and it > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this nibbling > as > > a > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I am to > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it as I > > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy

candy and popcorn and > > > eat it in my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. That > is > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to nibble > > late > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me that > wants > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel guilty and > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse behaviors. In > > any > > > case, there are other > > > things I can do when I come into the house, like thumb through > the > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But at night, I have to order myself > out > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs yet. > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but I love all > kinds > > > of dancing. I

have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. Then > I > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when I can > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on this > > > board. Lilka> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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The drugs do cause problems, I've been there. You're doing the right thing by stepping up the exercise. We all need each other, this is a life long journey not just until you have the WLS. Take care. Donna J.valkrey1@... wrote: Donna and Jenn - I've been reading your posts over and over again. You two are really helping me. Jenn, I'm having a heck of a time with my 10% just like you are. I have had a kidney transplant and I am also fighting steroids (baaaaaaaddd drug!) so the struggle is compounded somewhat. I am exercising (water aerobics at the "Y") but now I think I need to step things up a bit so I'm going to be doing Chair Dancing in the mornings as well. Thanks so much for

your insights. You and , Francisco all deserve great big hugs as so many people on this list do! I'm so glad I'm a member of this group! Thanks again, in CupertinoDonna JordonDSJordon@...

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Oh Boy! Busy Woman! We are in the Head Start program....Mitchel, he's almost 4. He is in his 1st year of Pre-School, he's Autistic, so he gets that PLUS we are darn poor anyway and we get home visits for Angie, 2 from a nice Head Start lady. My hubby used to be disabled from RSD (for 10 years he used a wheelchair and walked on crutches, painful RSD). But he made a MIRACULOUS recovery and now works as a handyman/landscaper for his parents who own property & a farm. He has to Not work a lot though due to all of my medical appts. and me needing help with these kiddo's because I am so fricken' huge, I can't do a lot, so he does Not get paid when he is Not working, which is a lot! We have the 4 kiddo's + we pay child support for my hubby's 16 year old too, so

that's 5 kiddo's total. We rent a duplex for $1,000.00 a month and we can barely keep up with his bills and we can't pay my 8 credit card bills and the companies are currently getting judgements against me. We have Medi-Cal for me, Mark & Mitchel & Angie (Steve, 13 & , 11) get their medical coverage through their dad. I get decent support for them. We also get Mitchel's S.S.I. for being Autistic. We barely make it. We are a family of 7 living on a grand total of approx. $43,000.00 a year total. But we all are deeply in love with each other and that's all that counts! My goal is to work part time at night when I

get the majority of this weight off. I am hoping for a Major transformation and Major changes in my life, which will affect everyone's life's around me! ENERGY, here I come! I am having a diabetes attack (very low blood sugar) right now, I gotta go eat something. Love, Jenn Diane Duenas wrote: HI JennThank you so much for your kind words,if Im helping anyone its myself and giving back what Ive received.No, Im not a stay home mom, unfortunately my hubby has heart problems and is on a disability retirement. I work as a site supervisor for the State Preschool and school age programs at Concord Child

Care Center.My kids are 24,22,19,15 and 7. 4 boys and my one girl is the one in the middle. I have a 3 year old grandson and a 10 month old granddaughter and one due in July.> > > >> > > > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to > > Francisco. > >

> I > > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get > lost > > > here > > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It was > > > deep. > > > > O well. > > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, > Francisco > > of > > > > all the wonderful things that you have found since you had the > > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most > important > > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is that > my > > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told my > > step > > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is > that? > > I > > > > expect to take off another five years as the months go

by. > This > > is > > > > just miraculous. > > > > I also mentioned something about my process here. I find > > that > > > I > > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to nibble > when > > I > > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice of > > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor > told > > me > > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because that > is > > > > how people gain weight. I tried to do it with discipline and > it > > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this > nibbling > > as > > > a > > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I am > to

> > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it as > I > > > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy candy and popcorn > and > > > > eat it in my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. > That > > is > > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to > nibble > > > late > > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me that > > wants > > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel guilty > and > > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse behaviors. > In > > > any > > > > case, there are other > > > > things I can do when I come into the house, like thumb through > > the > > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But

at night, I have to order myself > > out > > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs > yet. > > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but I love all > > kinds > > > > of dancing. I have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. > Then > > I > > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when I > can > > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on > this > > > > board. Lilka> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Thank you Lilka! I get down on the floor with my little kiddo's all the time...but I stay there FOREVER until I can get up! I beg my older boys to help me out, sometimes I don't have to beg. My hubby does A LOT for me (us). I didn't mean to get anyone down with my home life situation but I just feel this need to tell people, anyone, the boat we are in. Poverty is shameful but to us, it's just a way of life. I would rather be in poverty or poor or whatever then be in my old miserable marriage! hahaha But usually I am upbeat, outgoing and pretty darn optomistic! It's like, once I lose this weight, WATCH OUT EVERYONE! hahaha Scary thought! To be happy in a marriage/relationship

AND thin? Is that possible? YES! From what you guys & gals say, it Sure IS!! With gas prices the way they are, I cannot make it to SSF from Sac Town until my scheduled appt. on May 17th (Wed. @ 2:00 p.m.) it costs $60.00 in gas to go to & fro, + my hubby has to take the whole day off, so that's no fun come check time. Plus, I have to go back on June 2nd for my 3rd appt. w/Dr. Stiles. Yes! Gity is GREAT! They all are! Thanks for the posts Everyone! Love, Jenn Lilka wrote: Hi Jenn, Your post really got to me. I understand it so deeply. No one can really understand how much our fat affects our lives. Just the other day I was remembering how I dreaded going up hills or walking at all. I had too much pain in my hip. My whole life was clouded with pain and discomfort. I would never just admit that I could not do something because it was just too hard since I was so heavy. Everyone around me got used to doing things for me and I got used to it , kind of. I simply could not carry things, could not walk far, could not walk up a hill or fast. I could not fit into a seat belt on my car. Everyone began to live around me. They were passing me by. I watched them as if I were an old and ancient lady. I simply could not be on my feet even to cook. I needed special shoes that I still wear that supported my

painful heels.It is just no fun counting out pills, remembering to take them, feeling propped up on chemicals and then having to take more and more. Oh just remembering is getting me down. My last child was deprived of any playtime with me because I just could not do it. I could not recognize myself. I am now 3 months after surgery, I am finally coming out from behind the enormous load on my back. All the things I mentioned i can now do. I feel ten, yes ten years younger, maybe more since I have been so large for the last 20 years. The best thing is that I am beginning to take care of things again all by myself. Some of the people around me are surprised when I say, "I can do that". I am proud and happy with myself. I feel thin, even though I am not. When you work the program you become radiant and ecstatic. That is the way I feel. Do you visit Gity on Tuesday at 12:30? She has helped me so much. I go to Richmond

but I drive down to S San Fran just to spend time with Her and her team and all the post ops and the newbees there. It is a great place. I don't know if you can get away for it. Please show up. I also go on Sat, the 3rd Sat every month at 9:30. I am determined to get my answers so that I can go on with my life. With love to you and all the dear others who have contributed so much to me. Lilka> > > > >> > > > > I am trying to find the long message I wrote, mostly to > > > Francisco. > > > > I > > > > > will try to find it and send it. Sometimes my messages get > > lost > > > > here > > > > > but this time I made a copy. Nope. It is lost. Too bad. It > was > > > > deep. > > > > > O well. > > > > > I will try to recreate it. I liked that list you made, > > Francisco > > > of > > > > > all

the wonderful things that you have found since you had > the > > > > > surgery. I was thinking about my own list but the most > > important > > > > > thing on my list, of course, besides the no more pills is > that > > my > > > > > hip stopped hurting and I can walk again. Yesterday, I told > my > > > step > > > > > mother that I was 10 years younger now. How much better is > > that? > > > I > > > > > expect to take off another five years as the months go by. > > This > > > is > > > > > just miraculous. > > > > > I also mentioned something about my process here. I > find > > > that > > > > I > > > > > want to nibble at certain times. I especially want to

nibble > > when > > > I > > > > > come in from outside. I want a cherry tomato, a thin slice > of > > > > > cheese, a cracker. It is not a lot right now but my doctor > > told > > > me > > > > > that eating in between meals is absolutely not OK because > that > > is > > > > > how people gain weight. I tried to do it with discipline and > > it > > > > > works to some degree but then Gity told me to see this > > nibbling > > > as > > > > a > > > > > part of me that needs to be recognized and understood if I > am > > to > > > > > eliminate it for good. I have gained a great incite into it > as > > I > > > > > used to come home from school at 13 and buy candy and

> popcorn > > and > > > > > eat it in my room by myself. I was so miserable that year. > > That > > > is > > > > > when when I began to comfort myself with food. I want to > > nibble > > > > late > > > > > at night, too. Lonliness? There seems to be a part of me > that > > > wants > > > > > to feel bad about myself. These behaviors make me feel > guilty > > and > > > > > shameful. Then I need to hide. That leads to worse > behaviors. > > In > > > > any > > > > > case, there are other > > > > > things I can do when I come into the house, like thumb > through > > > the > > > > > mail or catalogs or mags. But at night, I have to order > myself > > > out

> > > > > of the room and I have not found a substitute for my needs > > yet. > > > > > I love to dance too. I used to square dance but I love > all > > > kinds > > > > > of dancing. I have joined Curves to strengthen myself first. > > Then > > > I > > > > > will dance again. That will be a milestone in my life, when > I > > can > > > > > dance again. Love to you and to all the wonderful people on > > this > > > > > board. Lilka> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >