Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I do drink 2% milk but I don't drink enough of it to gain weight with it. It is the carbs and sugar that puts the weight on me. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs. Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 lbs Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Thu, 01 May 2003 12:23:41 -0000 " singer1081 " writes: > I have another question........ > Who drinks milk? And do you think it causes weight gain or slows > weight loss? I have only heard this for the first time this past > week. I am an avid milk drinker. Could that really be my problem? > Darn if it is! I am a farm girl who LOVES her milk! > Pam > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I drink it in my shakes. Fat free milk, that is. I also have cream in my coffee. I count the calories and the fat. No problem here. God bless, Joe <>< > I have another question........ > Who drinks milk? And do you think it causes weight gain or slows > weight loss? I have only heard this for the first time this past > week. I am an avid milk drinker. Could that really be my problem? > Darn if it is! I am a farm girl who LOVES her milk! > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I don't touch the stuff. I used to drink a lot of it...but think that may have had a big part in my MO-ity. It is one of the only two things my doc forbade, milk and sugar, and actually, saying that is a redundacy, since milk IS sugar. Ever checked the sugar grams on the container? Sugar is what makes us fat. There is nothing I cannot eat, except for those two things. I have had major success in my WL journey, and I attribute a lot to sticking to the rules my doc set down. Milk is for baby cows.....it fattens them up. Need I say more? Regards~ Jacque > I have another question........ > Who drinks milk? And do you think it causes weight gain or slows > weight loss? I have only heard this for the first time this past > week. I am an avid milk drinker. Could that really be my problem? > Darn if it is! I am a farm girl who LOVES her milk! > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I used to be a fair to middlin milk drinker,,,,,,,it waned over the years,,,,,,and was a milk and cookie man at night before surgery. My quandary was never being able to coordinate the end of the milk and cookies simultaneously. If one had milk left, it required more cookies or vice versa. Post op I followed the program nutritionist's advice for a few weeks and tried to make protein shakes with milk. It made me dump, (did not know it as dumping at the time) and I stopped doing protein as a result. It was truly gaggy,,,,the more fruit, the more yeck stuff added the gaggier it got. Then a petite (dare I say statuesque?) redhead gained influence on my nutritional affairs and I tossed the milk and did protein with water and have been a happy camper ever since. I do not miss the bloat, the bowel problems and the sugar blast in milk either. I do miss cereal tho, and as of late I have tried Soy milk on rare occasion for a bowl of Fiber One. It seems to satisfy something in me, is palatable and actually tastes good but not something that I would ever want as a regular part of my food intake. I do agree with the titian haired statuesque mentor that milk " for me " equals liquid sugar and if I want to feel like the recipient of a blow to the cranium for awhile, I can drink some and go to bed feeling like I want to yak. I really do not want to do that now as much as I used to. Dan Slone Surgery 5/2/2000 milk I have another question........ Who drinks milk? And do you think it causes weight gain or slows weight loss? I have only heard this for the first time this past week. I am an avid milk drinker. Could that really be my problem? Darn if it is! I am a farm girl who LOVES her milk! Pam Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 I too used to be a huge milk drinker. Nothing quenched my thirst like a big glass of milk (yup Dan, with a side of Oreo's!) Then to " watch my weight " in the years before my surgery I switched from whole milk to 2%. And golly it did so much to control my weight gain! Postop I continued to drink milk because it was given to me in the hospital so it must be ok. Several months out, I became aware of issues with bad gas and diarrhea. Then I put it together and realized that this was after I ate oh say...cream of mushroom soup, or cream of broccoli soup, or New England clam chowder, or potato soup. Seeing a pattern here? That's when I discovered I was lactose intolerant. At least as far as milk and milk based products go. I have no problem with cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese or sour cream. Just milk. And ya know what? I think it's a good thing. And if like Dan, I really, really want that bowl of Rice Chex with fresh blueberries...I have it! But I make darn sure I plan on staying home for the day. No need on putting anyone else but me through the hell that I have to endure after that! Sue in Las Vegas PS I tried soy milk as well. Didn't have a problem with the flavor, but I did find most were high in sugar. And lactaid and all it's products....didn't make a darn bit of difference for me or my bowels!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 Dan, I agree completely about the milk=sugar thing, but I too miss cereal & milk. Have you tried adding vanilla protein to your cereal? Make it a little on the thin side and it works perfectly and tastes like you added a little sugar to your cereal too because of the sweetness of the shake. It's not perfect, but it satisfies the craving and doesn't add a ton of sugar calories to my day (or make me blow up like a balloon from the lactose). ------------------------------------------------ Terry Mayers 5DollarHosting.com® http://www.5dollarhosting.com (877)-838-HOST / .... because it shouldn't cost a fortune to make a fortune! ® RE: milk I do miss cereal tho, and as of late I have tried Soy milk on rare occasion for a bowl of Fiber One. It seems to satisfy something in me, is palatable and actually tastes good but not something that I would ever want as a regular part of my food intake. I do agree with the titian haired statuesque mentor that milk " for me " equals liquid sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Yup, it is TOTALLY weird. But, what the heck, that's what makes us all so interesting. --S At 8:45 AM -0700 5/2/03, Geri wrote: >This might sound weird........but,,,I put water and a packet of >splenda on my Hi-Lo cereal in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 >This might sound weird........but,,,I put water and a packet of >splenda on my Hi-Lo cereal in the morning. Water on cereal sounds strange to me, never tried it. But my 3rd husband, who was a Palestinian and never had cereal before he came to this country, liked Trix with orange juice on it. :::shudder::: ~~ Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Well just for my portion on this thread,,,,,,,,let me boil it right down to it makes me feel like crap and I have to go to bed,,,,,,,weight be danged,,,,,,if weight gain were the threat I would not succumb to nearly as many threatening things as I do or nearly as often,,,,,,,but that is just my not so humble opine as to how that particular food product reacts with this particular body on any given particular day. Dan Slone Surgery 5/2/2000 Re: milk I have to admit that any thing in excess can make me gain weight. I don't think a glass of milk a day or every couple of days is going to make me gain weight any more then eating protein on a regular basis will. JMHO. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs. Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs. Current Weight 335 lbs Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Fri, 2 May 2003 11:31:44 -0500 " Randy Ogle " writes: > Well I've been blasted for saying it before so if it happens again > then so > be it.. Milk will make you fat... PERIOD... No questions about it... > Milk is > one of the worst foods you could ever put in your body... Keep > drinking it > and you'll keep gaining weight. > Randy > milk > > > > I have another question........ > > Who drinks milk? And do you think it causes weight gain or slows > > weight loss? I have only heard this for the first time this past > > week. I am an avid milk drinker. Could that really be my problem? > > Darn if it is! I am a farm girl who LOVES her milk! > > Pam > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 I would expect that *you* would ask this question, Carol....just who sponsored such studies? Maybe the Dairy industry? Hmmmm! Regards~ Jacque Distal RNY, 5/30/00 Drs. Fox and Oh 310~126 Beginning BMI 50.0 Current BMI 20.3 > Might be true for post-ops. But there've been a couple recent studies > showing > that people who drink milk actually lose faster and more than those who > don't. It's probably like so many things: build a study to prove what u > already believe is true. I think, like so many things, it just depends on > the > person: how their body reacts to certain things. What makes you gain weight > > may make another lose some. No easy answers. > > Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2003 Report Share Posted May 4, 2003 The same people who proved that milk fattens up babies, of course. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: milk > I would expect that *you* would ask this question, Carol....just who > sponsored such studies? Maybe the Dairy industry? Hmmmm! > > Regards~ > Jacque > Distal RNY, 5/30/00 > Drs. Fox and Oh > 310~126 > Beginning BMI 50.0 > Current BMI 20.3 > > Might be true for post-ops. But there've been a couple recent studies > > showing > > that people who drink milk actually lose faster and more than those who > > don't. It's probably like so many things: build a study to prove what u > > already believe is true. I think, like so many things, it just depends on > > the > > person: how their body reacts to certain things. What makes you gain weight > > > > may make another lose some. No easy answers. > > > > Carol A > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 In a message dated 6/23/2003 1:54:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, lacorona@... writes: > nderstand many kinds of proofs, including double blinds The double blind theory is great, even perfect. The problem is in the choice of subjects.. They would have to be perfect matches, ah there lies the problem, no two people are alike. Fay Bayuk **300/168 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Click for My Profile <A HREF= " http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008 " >http:\ //obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 << Subject: Re: and milk . . . so nonfat milk is bad for us?????????????????? i'm confused now.>> I believe it is . . . it's very high in sugar. About 13 grams sugar/cup. It provides no nutrition that we need, or can use other than sugar (which *I* don't need!), as the calcium is carbonate. We can't use calcium carbonate, which requires at least an hour or so of close, personal time with stomach acid before it can be absorbed. In us, calcium carbonate makes kidney stones . . . Cow's milk is specifically designed to nourish young bovines . . . not adult humans. It's a mix of sugar, fat, and a little protein. But it's *designed* to add weight to little calves. Not what I want! ) Hawkridge in Washington State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I DRINK IT EVERYDAY. I SAY IF YOU WANT IT DRINK IT. I FOLLOW MY DIET AND THE FAT AND SUGARS EVERYDAY. A GLASS OR 2 WILL NOT HURT YOU. IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT SUGAR GET THE ATKINS MILK OR LACTOSS FREE MILK. NON FAT MILK IS GREAT DRINKING SOME NOW WITH MY ICED COFFEE...NORA 83 POUNDS GONE IN 4 MONTHS --- Hawkridge wrote: > > << > Subject: Re: and milk . . . > > so nonfat milk is bad for us?????????????????? i'm > confused now.>> > > I believe it is . . . it's very high in sugar. > About 13 grams sugar/cup. It provides no nutrition > that we need, or can use other than sugar (which *I* > don't need!), as the calcium is carbonate. We can't > use calcium carbonate, which requires at least an > hour or so of close, personal time with stomach acid > before it can be absorbed. In us, calcium carbonate > makes kidney stones . . . > > Cow's milk is specifically designed to nourish young > bovines . . . not adult humans. It's a mix of > sugar, fat, and a little protein. But it's > *designed* to add weight to little calves. Not what > I want! ) > > > > > > > Hawkridge in Washington State. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Freedom Prevails Because Hero's Serve. - Trulock Family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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