anti-depressants/ anti-anxiety drugs, medicine for bi-polar and panic

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two cent's worth

Going off various anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs needs to be given a

many months long trial to see how a person does. One cannot evaluate such

accurately after a few weeks. The drugs have what is called a half-life, they

remain in the system for a long time after they are stopped--some say up to six

months. We do not evaluate how a person is doing without medicine until about

that many months after cessation.

For some persons who have " stopped " they may feel better because they are

finally on the proper dosage ( a much lower quantity of the drug is still

leaching through their system). Other persons, especially persons suffering from

bipolar disorder and other disorders that have manias attached often feel better

without the medication that has been evening their moods out because... they

prefer the more 'zingy feeling " as it is sometimes described, than the

slightly subdued feeling they have when on the medicine.

This is why going off one's meds is considered to be something to watch very

carefully especially at the critical six months and the 1 year mark.

For many, medications have been a mercy that meant the difference between

being on earth and being under it. It takes an extremely careful and

knowledgeable clinician to work with a patient to get the KIND of medicine and

the

fluctuating dosages needs just right. It is for most well worth it.

I admire those who have been able to find their way to more health in this

area, especially in a culture that likes to sometimes pretend that all bodies

work alike, that what is true for one is true for all, that suffering in these

kinds of ways is a person's own fault-- it ISN'T-- and that those whose body

chemistry does not work well for them ought to somehow be able to do without

assistance. It is a heroic accomplishment for the many who have found their way

through this morass to life that gives them a chance to have choices about how

to respond to life's many situations, rather than only one choice-- to feel

angry, manic, panicked, or sad.

all best,

ceep

[Guest guest]

Now Momma Ceep, you know your opinion is worth more then two cents. I

never thought about the half life thing. It may be worth mentioning to

my doctor because I felt great off of meds for almost 6 months. Thanks

for the info.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 22:06:31 EDT lacorona@... writes:

> two cent's worth

>

> Going off various anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs needs to

> be given a

> many months long trial to see how a person does. One cannot

> evaluate such

> accurately after a few weeks. The drugs have what is called a

> half-life, they

> remain in the system for a long time after they are stopped--some

> say up to six

> months. We do not evaluate how a person is doing without medicine

> until about

> that many months after cessation.

> all best,

> ceep

[Guest guest]

That Ceep woman is always so very right,,,,and yanno? She is perhaps the

only always right person that I am glad is so very always right!

I am one who misses their " zings " when I was on meds,,,,life just seems to

be so flat without them. Every creative worthwhile thing I ever did in my

whole life was on top of one of these zings,,,,LOL. But OMG,,,,,I know the

valleys follow,,,,,,,,so funny that others around me see them far before I

do. I am usally in the darkness down there somewhere before it occurs to me

that I am on the bottom end of cycle. I just hunker down and wait for the

light to appear again and work like hell to compensate for the offtime

downin the valley.

But,,,,,I went off Wellbutrin after two years,,and it was

great,,,,,,well,,,,I guess it was cause within 90 days was with

child,,,,so,,,I guess I felt better. The catch is,,,,,to Bipolar

stuff,,,,whenever you are asked if you think you are,,,,,start

humming,,,,look out the window,,,find something to call the counselors

attention and NEVER aswer that question,,,LOL,,,,The gotcha if ya do. If

you say NO, then the little eyebrows rise,,,and they scribble,,,,and of

course if you say YEs, the GOTCHA. If you refuse meds, more scribbling,,,if

you take them,,,,,then you are compliant,,,scribble,,,,,,then if you stop

taking them for some reason know to you, like advanced zombieism,,,,,,then

you are non compliant. I alwasy felt like Jack Nicholson's character in One

Flew Over ,,,,yanno? Knew frew Nurse Ratchets in my day as well.

I do not consider myself off all meds,,,,,,I still do the mild anti

anxiolytic(sp?) at night for sleep, but then again I will have the one too

many libations for that as well at times........but I also feel better in

general without them. Just a personal choice. Maybe one day when the

oatmeal cannot be chewed and is viewed dribbling down the chin and I cannot

avert my head, I will take them.

Dan Slone

Surgery 5/2/2000,Yahoo Msg navwriter

AIM Navwriter58, ICQ 260890468

anti-depressants/ anti-anxiety drugs, medicine

for bi-polar and panic

two cent's worth

Going off various anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs needs to be given

a

many months long trial to see how a person does. One cannot evaluate such

accurately after a few weeks. The drugs have what is called a half-life,

they

remain in the system for a long time after they are stopped--some say up to

six

months. We do not evaluate how a person is doing without medicine until

about

that many months after cessation.

For some persons who have " stopped " they may feel better because they are

finally on the proper dosage ( a much lower quantity of the drug is still

leaching through their system). Other persons, especially persons suffering

from

bipolar disorder and other disorders that have manias attached often feel

better

without the medication that has been evening their moods out because... they

prefer the more 'zingy feeling " as it is sometimes described, than the

slightly subdued feeling they have when on the medicine.

This is why going off one's meds is considered to be something to watch

very

carefully especially at the critical six months and the 1 year mark.

For many, medications have been a mercy that meant the difference between

being on earth and being under it. It takes an extremely careful and

knowledgeable clinician to work with a patient to get the KIND of medicine

and the

fluctuating dosages needs just right. It is for most well worth it.

I admire those who have been able to find their way to more health in this

area, especially in a culture that likes to sometimes pretend that all

bodies

work alike, that what is true for one is true for all, that suffering in

these

kinds of ways is a person's own fault-- it ISN'T-- and that those whose body

chemistry does not work well for them ought to somehow be able to do without

assistance. It is a heroic accomplishment for the many who have found their

way

through this morass to life that gives them a chance to have choices about

how

to respond to life's many situations, rather than only one choice-- to feel

angry, manic, panicked, or sad.

all best,

ceep

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This was meant for the group too. Lori O.

On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 17:51:29 -0000 " angela6237220 "

writes:

> This is a great point Lori and not to try and make everyone buy the

> book but Solomon discusses this in great detail in the book I

>

> mentioned a few days ago, THE NOONDAY DEMON. He has several

> different scenarios of people that went off meds and thought that

> everything was wonderful for 6 to 12 months until they crashed so

> bad

> they could barely function. It really opened my eyes to depression

>

> and what I was doing to myself by going on and off meds + it gives

> so

> much info on alternative treatments. Well worth every nickel you

> pay

> for the book IMHO...

>

> R in Nashville

>

>

> > Now Momma Ceep, you know your opinion is worth more then two

> cents. I

> > never thought about the half life thing. It may be worth

> mentioning to

> > my doctor because I felt great off of meds for almost 6 months.

>

> Thanks

> > for the info.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > SRVG 7/16/01

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> > 479/335/???

>

>

>

>