Re: To Tova

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Hi Bethanne,

Thanks for sharing your story. It is nice to hear of other people

miserable too. :-) This day continues to suck but I know it will get

better. I did buy the chocolate Boost this morning and although I don't

love it... It's tolerable. I guess I should count my blessings... I

have no kids to take care of and -thank god- had absolutely no

numbness. I do however, have my own handbag business and by some random

coincidence, today I met and had a great opportunity to speak with two

Very Important people at a very important national Fashion Magazine.

(Important as far as my business & this industry is concerned, not as a

personal statement) All I could do was mumble " I make bags " ... it was

terrible... I would usually give my left arm for an opportunity to meet

with those people and now... well...

But... things will get better!

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> Hi,

> Let me tell you right up front---my experience was miserable! I also

> lost a lot of weight, 12lbs, and I am thin too to begin with.  I did

> lose my rear though, and I love jeans more and more!!  I was wired

> for 7 weeks, with two children, 4 and 2 1/2, and It was hard!!!  My

> worst day was just where you are it was 8 days post op.  I could not

> get anything through (the next day I bought a water pik), and I was

> so weak, I could not even shower!  I was miserable, and no one

> understood why I was so bad.  I wanted to go back in the  hospital

> and go on IV and the doctor said that was ridiculous for a grown

> woman. 

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> I did not drink the protein shakes, I could not handle it.  I did

> drink vitamins though that were from the UK.  A friend of mine went

> there and I asked to bring some home, it was a tablet that dissolved

> in water, and it tasted so good.  so, I drank that every morning,

> soup in the afternoon, and a milkshake for dinner.  eating was too

> much of a chore for me, so I did very little of it. 

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> Please know that this is tough, I am still having a hard time and I

> am 12 weeks post.  I can't stand that my lips are not back yet, my

> teeth are tender, and my upper gums are still numb.  It is hard to

> kiss my hubby, and I just have to say,  soon, it will be back.

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> I hope I helped you knowing you are not alone. 

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> Bethanne

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[Guest guest]

Also,

By the end, I loved the nesquick strawberry milkshake that comes

premade, it was very smooth,

and

the tropicana smoothies.... I lived on those for the last 2 weeks.

good luck with your business!!

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> > Hi,

> > Let me tell you right up front---my experience was miserable! I

also

> > lost a lot of weight, 12lbs, and I am thin too to begin with. 

I did

> > lose my rear though, and I love jeans more and more!!  I was

wired

> > for 7 weeks, with two children, 4 and 2 1/2, and It was

hard!!!  My

> > worst day was just where you are it was 8 days post op.  I

could not

> > get anything through (the next day I bought a water pik), and I

was

> > so weak, I could not even shower!  I was miserable, and no one

> > understood why I was so bad.  I wanted to go back in the 

hospital

> > and go on IV and the doctor said that was ridiculous for a grown

> > woman. 

> >

> > I did not drink the protein shakes, I could not handle it.  I

did

> > drink vitamins though that were from the UK.  A friend of mine

went

> > there and I asked to bring some home, it was a tablet that

dissolved

> > in water, and it tasted so good.  so, I drank that every

morning,

> > soup in the afternoon, and a milkshake for dinner.  eating was

too

> > much of a chore for me, so I did very little of it. 

> >

> > Please know that this is tough, I am still having a hard time

and I

> > am 12 weeks post.  I can't stand that my lips are not back yet,

my

> > teeth are tender, and my upper gums are still numb.  It is hard

to

> > kiss my hubby, and I just have to say,  soon, it will be back.

> >

> > I hope I helped you knowing you are not alone. 

> >

> > Bethanne

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[Guest guest]

I just had lower... and he just moved it forward 5.5mm. I guess once

they cut that bone- it's all the same. Thank goodness I did not have

both... If I could not blow my nose for two weeks, I would have gone

nuts! God Bless all of you people that have multiple procedures done! I

do think it will heal just fine... it better! :-)

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>   Hi   Tova

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>   Did  you have  upper  and  lower??   I hope your  healing

>   gets  better.

[Guest guest]

Hi Katja-

Thanks for the vote of support... I'm not really dwelling on it too

much.... after a while even I get tired of the sound of my mumbling...

I guess once I started to write though it all just came flooding out!

I'm glad you can relate to the comment about my boyfriend... I

hesitated before writing it because I didn't want him to sound bad but

he isn't and I figured, I can't be the only one! And he ALSO has an

absolutely PERFECT set of teeth. When he puts his teeth together in a

bite and stretches his lips open to show the teeth, I swear he looks

like the perfect plastic tooth mold sitting on your orthodontists

table.... Or, like the teeth part of the skeleton in a biology class.

Seriously perfect... And, he never had braces OR even a single cavity!

He (and your boyfriend too perhaps) is like a freak of nature.... I'm

thinking if I marry him, at least my kids will have a CHANCE not to get

my terrible dental genes... Even if they end up somewhere in the

middle, it would not be too bad. I think I mentioned in an earlier post

that I started thinking about the braces on my first (blind) date with

him almost 4 years ago... I sat across the table from him and as he was

talking, all I could think was " Oh my god, this man has such beautiful

teeth " I got the braces about a year and a half into our relationship

(it took a bit of soul searching for me to make sure I was doing it for

me- despite the fact that he supported me either way- his perfect teeth

made me feel like maybe, subconciously I was doing it for him) and I

have been wearing them for almost 2.5 years. I'm pretty much sick of

them and now with my slightly new face (I look a little more

sophisticated with my new chin... as opposed to before when I I looked

" cute " ) I am sooo eager to see the end result of this entire nightmare.

Just so ya know... I had garlic mashed potatoes for dinner.. I've

brushed my accessible teeth and gargled mouthwash 4 times and can still

taste the garlic on my tongue. No-one is going to want to come anywhere

near me tomorrow.

Thanks for the support... I'll post some more updated pics in the near

future!

Tova

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> Hi Tova,

> I was so sorry to hear that things have been so rough for you since

> surgery. Sometimes it is just best to not dwell on what isn't going

> great... I can see why you haven't written much. I just had to say

> hi, and that I hope everything passes quickly for you, more quickly

> than you expect or hope for. AND I had to say that I was literally

> laughing out loud when you mentioned your boyfriend's oral

> inspections of your teeth/bite! - You too huh?! I get those ALL THE

> TIME and I haven't even had surgery yet. You pegged it rather aptly,

> one does start to feel like they are a mare up for auction or

> something. My inspections are even worse due to the fact that my

> boyfriend has genetically-naturally-Godgiven- perfect teeth and a

> beyond-perfect bite. And here I am, we are, in the meantime being

> tortured by uncooperative teeth and jaws! Argh! Please do take care

> of yourself, not just physically, but emotionally too!! We're

> thinking of you. -Katja

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tova!

Oh my goodness! You don't know how much of your post I could have

written myself. I know exactly what you mean about future kids

with these guys hopefully having half a decent chance to not suffer

what " mommy " did. Both of our boyfriends could be dental models,

apparently. Honestly mine should have his bite/teeth bronzed or

something It's not right that nature made them come in SO

perfectly! And then I, next to him, create this great " contrast " . ha

ha. And, I know what you mean... I'm still in the " cute " phase. There

is no way to look sophisticated when one's chin is hiding next to

one's neck, among other skewed things....

I had already started investigating braces (2nd time around to finish

what the first ortho gladly took the money to do, but didn't get

done) and of course the surgery. I did not relish the task of telling

my very new found love that I will soon be in braces for 1 1/2 to 2

years, including surgery along the way. Fortunately, we were already

very attached to eachother and he was very supportive of my going

ahead with the braces/surgery or not.

So, to compare notes... what surgery did you just have? For what fun

malocclusion afflicting you? I will look for your pictures. I'm

having surgery in 3 weeks. I'll keep you posted. Katja

Ps, My salute to garlic mashed potatoes.

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> > Hi Tova,

> > I was so sorry to hear that things have been so rough for you

since

> > surgery. Sometimes it is just best to not dwell on what isn't

going

> > great... I can see why you haven't written much. I just had to

say

> > hi, and that I hope everything passes quickly for you, more

quickly

> > than you expect or hope for. AND I had to say that I was

literally

> > laughing out loud when you mentioned your boyfriend's oral

> > inspections of your teeth/bite! - You too huh?! I get those ALL

THE

> > TIME and I haven't even had surgery yet. You pegged it rather

aptly,

> > one does start to feel like they are a mare up for auction or

> > something. My inspections are even worse due to the fact that my

> > boyfriend has genetically-naturally-Godgiven- perfect teeth and a

> > beyond-perfect bite. And here I am, we are, in the meantime being

> > tortured by uncooperative teeth and jaws! Argh! Please do take

care

> > of yourself, not just physically, but emotionally too!! We're

> > thinking of you. -Katja

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[Guest guest]

Oh wow!! My room mate does the " inspecting my teeth " thing so much

to me! I know she's just curious, but, I'm not really keen on having

my teeth scrutinized for 5 mins everytime I see her. Haha well, glad

to know I'm not the only one being inspected all the time.

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> Hi Tova,

> I was so sorry to hear that things have been so rough for you since

> surgery. Sometimes it is just best to not dwell on what isn't going

> great... I can see why you haven't written much. I just had to say

> hi, and that I hope everything passes quickly for you, more quickly

> than you expect or hope for. AND I had to say that I was literally

> laughing out loud when you mentioned your boyfriend's oral

> inspections of your teeth/bite! - You too huh?! I get those ALL THE

> TIME and I haven't even had surgery yet. You pegged it rather

aptly,

> one does start to feel like they are a mare up for auction or

> something. My inspections are even worse due to the fact that my

> boyfriend has genetically-naturally-Godgiven- perfect teeth and a

> beyond-perfect bite. And here I am, we are, in the meantime being

> tortured by uncooperative teeth and jaws! Argh! Please do take care

> of yourself, not just physically, but emotionally too!! We're

> thinking of you. -Katja

[Guest guest]

Hiya!

I just had a small overbite. They moved my lower jaw forward 5.5mm...

The braces were also my second time around... first guy was an idiot-

did more damage than repair. I had 1 tooth (an incisor, i think it's

called) that was completely twisted around... the back facing almost

front. It had been bonded too look OK but the bonding was starting to

crack and the situation was just " wrong " ... ya know? I also still have

a baby tooth because when the adult tooth that was supposed to replace

it came through, it was in the wrong place so the ortho told my folks

to pull it out. I guess he was too lazy to deal with it properly and my

parents were too busy to get a second opinion. heart-warming, isn't it?

The braces did a lot of the work the second time around and the surgery

was the option I chose to take to fix the rest as properly and

completely as possible. Sometimes I think I may have gone overboard and

like I could have lived without the surgery but as long as it all ends

up OK- I think I will be glad I did it. I also had mild sleep apnea and

occasional headaches from my misalignment... My dad has severe sleep

apnea and a severe overbite -when he was a kid, they pulled out a

bunch of his healthy upper teeth to pull his top teeth back- now he

just has an overbite and huge gaps between his teeth... it was when I

realized I was smiling like my dad- covering my teeth with my lower

lip- that I realized I could stop the vicious cycle.... now I am just

keeping my fingers crossed and my teeth together!

Good Luck with your surgery- keep us posted!

Tova

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> Oh my goodness! You don't know how much of your post I could have

> written myself. I know exactly what you mean about future kids

> with these guys hopefully having half a decent chance to not suffer

> what " mommy " did. Both of our boyfriends could be dental models,

> apparently. Honestly mine should have his bite/teeth bronzed or

> something It's not right that nature made them come in SO

> perfectly! And then I, next to him, create this great " contrast " . ha

> ha. And, I know what you mean... I'm still in the " cute " phase. There

> is no way to look sophisticated when one's chin is hiding next to

> one's neck, among other skewed things.... 

>

> I had already started investigating braces (2nd time around to finish

> what the first ortho gladly took the money to do, but didn't get

> done) and of course the surgery. I did not relish the task of telling

> my very new found love that I will soon be in braces for 1 1/2 to 2

> years, including surgery along the way. Fortunately, we were already

> very attached to eachother and he was very supportive of my going

> ahead with the braces/surgery or not.

>

> So, to compare notes... what surgery did you just have? For what fun

> malocclusion afflicting you? I will look for your pictures. I'm

> having surgery in 3 weeks. I'll keep you posted. Katja

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> Ps, My salute to garlic mashed potatoes.

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> > >  Hi Tova,

> > >  I was so sorry to hear that things have been so rough for you

> since

> > >  surgery. Sometimes it is just best to not dwell on what isn't

> going

> > >  great... I can see why you haven't written much. I just had to

> say

> > >  hi, and that I hope everything passes quickly for you, more

> quickly

> > >  than you expect or hope for. AND I had to say that I was

> literally

> > >  laughing out loud when you mentioned your boyfriend's oral

> > >  inspections of your teeth/bite! - You too huh?! I get those ALL

> THE

> > >  TIME and I haven't even had surgery yet. You pegged it rather

> aptly,

> > >  one does start to feel like they are a mare up for auction or

> > >  something. My inspections are even worse due to the fact that my

> > >  boyfriend has genetically-naturally-Godgiven- perfect teeth and a

> > >  beyond-perfect bite. And here I am, we are, in the meantime being

> > >  tortured by uncooperative teeth and jaws! Argh! Please do take

> care

> > >  of yourself, not just physically, but emotionally too!! We're

> > >  thinking of you. -Katja

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Fran!

I'm glad I could make you laugh! Sometimes as I write I do feel like

maybe I am going on and on and on but... well... I do hope that someone

will be entertained and maybe even prepped a bit by my experience!

Best,

Tova

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> I have re read several sections of your post here.  I had to re read

> them because I was laughing hysterically, and had to wipe away tears

> as I was reading!!  That was as good as any stand up I have seen,

> even though you are targeting a very specific audience!  lol  But I

> love your take on this process, especially at this part of the

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[Guest guest]

I must say that I found your post hilarious - felt bad that I did becuase you

felt awful at the time but nevertheless it was sooooooooooo entertaining. What a

sense of humor!

franesmith2000 wrote:

Hi TOva,

I have re read several sections of your post here. I had to re read

them because I was laughing hysterically, and had to wipe away tears

as I was reading!! That was as good as any stand up I have seen,

even though you are targeting a very specific audience! lol But I

love your take on this process, especially at this part of the

process. Thank you for your honesty and your humor!

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