Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 ,Since D and C are the opposite ends of the same spectrum regarding gut flora imbalances, it is very possible that the yogurt is causing the C. My husband is sensitive to casin/milk protein, so it doesn't matter what form the milk is in (cheese or yogurt) it causes him D. He can now get away with infrequent, very small quantities of cheese, but that is all for now. I would suggest the s. boulardii, especially if you suspect a problem with yeast or other pathogens. The s. boulardii doesn't colonize so you don't have to worry about a possible overgrowth causing you problems. I would also recommend a non-dairy based l. acidophilus supplement. Go slowly and build up to the recommended dose for both of these just to be safe and to reduce possible die-off symptoms.AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 11:35:07 PMSubject: Can yogurt constipate? Hi Everyone, I’ve been on the SCDiet for almost 2 years now seeing very little progress with my C. issues. Before SCD, I use to consume milk products. My naturopath told me I was lactose intolerant, allergic to all milk products. I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats the lactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that the yogurt is causing my C. problems…or at least preventing my gut from healing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms of probiotics? Thank you for any help you can provide. GERDS and chronic C. SCD 22 mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Thank you Amelia for the tip on coconut milk yogurt. When you say “easier than nut milk”, do you mean easier to digest or easier to make? I’ll give it a try. Much appreciated! **************** , I did experiment with coconut milk yogurt at one time and it was REALLY yummy. It only needs to ferment for about 8-10 hours I think. You will need to make your own coconut milk (and add a bit of honey for the bacteria) but I find it easier than nut milk. Also, if you add some gelatin to the yogurt when it is finished fermenting, it firms up nicely, although can tend to separate into gelled layers! Amelia. Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months LDN 3mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Certainly. Dairy is a food group that can increase constipation, according to many articles I've come across in the medical literature. While our 24-hour fermented yogurt is an excellent source of probiotics, and calories, it still may be difficult for some digestions to tolerate. I certainly experienced this myself. You might try stopping the yogurt and switch to a legal L. Acidophilus or S. Boulardii supplement, see if that doesn't help. My body didn't tolerate S. Boulardii the few times I tried it, so I just use L. Acidophilus, purchased from Kirkman Labs or Custom Probiotics. I have chronic constipation as part of having poor digestive motility. So I know the functional reasons for my constipation. But I've found that certain SCD foods make the constipation worse, simply because my digestion can't cope with them, so slows down. I also take an osmotic laxative, Miralax, along with supplementing magnesium, both of which help. Kim M. SCD 6 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats thelactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that theyogurt is causing my C. problems.or at least preventing my gut fromhealing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms ofprobiotics?Thank you for any help you can provide.GERDS and chronic C.SCD 22 mths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 > Hi Everyone,>I've been on the SCDiet for almost 2 years now seeing very little> progress with my C. issues. Before SCD, I use to consume milk products.> My naturopath told me I was lactose intolerant, allergic to all milk> products. I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats the> lactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that the> yogurt is causing my C. problems.or at least preventing my gut from> healing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms of> probiotics?>Thank you for any help you can provide.>> GERDS and chronic C.> SCD 22 mthsS. Boulardii can constipate -- it's used in many cases to "fix" diarrhea. I would bet on it being the cause before the yogurt. n-- ______________________________Now available. A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Thank you so much n and Kim for your suggestions…I hadn’t thought of s. Boulardii as being the cause of my C. problems. Now that you mention it, I remember reading the diarrhea fix as one of the possible symptoms. If this is my problem, what else can I take for yeast candida? Thanks again, SCD 22 mths Re: Can yogurt constipate? On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:35:07 -0500, wrote: > Hi Everyone, >I've been on the SCDiet for almost 2 years now seeing very little > progress with my C. issues. Before SCD, I use to consume milk products. > My naturopath told me I was lactose intolerant, allergic to all milk > products. I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats the > lactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that the > yogurt is causing my C. problems.or at least preventing my gut from > healing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms of > probiotics? >Thank you for any help you can provide. > > GERDS and chronic C. > SCD 22 mths S. Boulardii can constipate -- it's used in many cases to " fix " diarrhea. I would bet on it being the cause before the yogurt. n -- ______________________________ Now available. A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 ,Easier to make the coconut milk than making nut milk for me. I don't like the grainy milk that nut milk (even using soaked nuts) makes so I end up straining it 2 or 3 times. With coconut milk, I don't need to do the extra straining.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 10:54:29 PMSubject: Re: Can yogurt constipate? Thank you Amelia for the tip on coconut milk yogurt. When you say “easier than nut milkâ€, do you mean easier to digest or easier to make? I’ll give it a try. Much appreciated! ************ **** , I did experiment with coconut milk yogurt at one time and it was REALLY yummy. It only needs to ferment for about 8-10 hours I think. You will need to make your own coconut milk (and add a bit of honey for the bacteria) but I find it easier than nut milk. Also, if you add some gelatin to the yogurt when it is finished fermenting, it firms up nicely, although can tend to separate into gelled layers! Amelia. Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months LDN 3mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 > Thank you so much n and Kim for your suggestions.I hadn't thought> of s. Boulardii as being the cause of my C. problems. Now that you> mention it, I remember reading the diarrhea fix as one of the possible> symptoms. If this is my problem, what else can I take for yeast> candida?>Thanks again,> > SCD 22 mthsI, and some others, have had good success with oil of oregano capsules for candida. But take them at some other time of day than when you eat yogurt, as they may effect the yogurt (i.e., kill some of the good bacteria as well as bad).n> Re: Can yogurt constipate?>>>> Hi Everyone,>> I've been on the SCDiet for almost 2 years now seeing very little>> progress with my C. issues. Before SCD, I use to consume milk> products.>> My naturopath told me I was lactose intolerant, allergic to all milk>> products. I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats> the>> lactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that the>> yogurt is causing my C. problems.or at least preventing my gut from>> healing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms of>> probiotics?>> Thank you for any help you can provide.>> >> GERDS and chronic C.>> SCD 22 mths>S. Boulardii can constipate -- it's used in many cases to "fix"> diarrhea. I would bet on it being the cause before the yogurt.>n>>>-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Great! I was already taking some but for antioxidants and toxins. Good to know. Thanks again, Re: Can yogurt constipate? > > >> Hi Everyone, >> I've been on the SCDiet for almost 2 years now seeing very little >> progress with my C. issues. Before SCD, I use to consume milk > products. >> My naturopath told me I was lactose intolerant, allergic to all milk >> products. I thought that since the good bacteria in the yogurt eats > the >> lactose and sugar in the milk, that I was safe. Could it be that the >> yogurt is causing my C. problems.or at least preventing my gut from >> healing more quickly? If so, is s. Boulardii sufficient in terms of >> probiotics? >> Thank you for any help you can provide. >> >> GERDS and chronic C. >> SCD 22 mths >S. Boulardii can constipate -- it's used in many cases to " fix " > diarrhea. I would bet on it being the cause before the yogurt. >n > > > -- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers: Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 ,If you really want to try it with nut yogurt again, try soaking the blanched almonds for at least 7 hours before making the milk to see if that helps. The 'Nourishing Traditions' book recommends this to help remove enzyme inhibitors in nuts/seeds/beans, so that they are easier to digest.AmeliaHusband UC 9 years, SCD 19 monthsLDN 3 mgTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 11:30:35 PMSubject: RE: Can yogurt constipate? Cool! Thanks for that! I’m going to make some tomorrow… BTW, I tried nut yogurt today and had a lot of trouble digesting it. Maybe I took too much all at once…stomach pain! Thanks again, Re: Can yogurt constipate? Thank you Amelia for the tip on coconut milk yogurt. When you say “easier than nut milkâ€, do you mean easier to digest or easier to make? I’ll give it a try. Much appreciated! ************ **** , I did experiment with coconut milk yogurt at one time and it was REALLY yummy. It only needs to ferment for about 8-10 hours I think. You will need to make your own coconut milk (and add a bit of honey for the bacteria) but I find it easier than nut milk. Also, if you add some gelatin to the yogurt when it is finished fermenting, it firms up nicely, although can tend to separate into gelled layers! Amelia. Husband UC 9 years, SCD 19 months LDN 3mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 At 04:53 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: If you really want to try it with nut yogurt again, try soaking the blanched almonds for at least 7 hours before making the milk to see if that helps. The 'Nourishing Traditions' book recommends this to help remove enzyme inhibitors in nuts/seeds/beans, so that they are easier to digest. Just a quick note -- Elaine was against soaking nuts because of a concern that they would develop unwanted bacteria which could be a problem for anyone, but especially for IBDers. I've understood (and again, I haven't read my NT since before Hurricane Katrina) that the NT method does include a little salt which could inhibit the mold and mildew which were Elaine's concern. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Marilyn,"I've understood (and again, I haven't read my NT since before Hurricane Katrina) that the NT method does include a little salt which could inhibit the mold and mildew which were Elaine's concern."Yes, it does say to add salt. It also had different amounts for different nuts (i.e. Almonds required a teaspoon more salt than the same amount of pecans). I didn't like what the salt did to the pecans though. Normally they taste quite sweet to me but after the soak and dehydrating, their sweetness was really reduced. I was using fine sea salt, so maybe next time I will use rock sea salt and see if it makes a difference -- larger grain, so possibly less salt over all. It tasted fine with the almonds though.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 4:26:28 PMSubject: Re: Can yogurt constipate? At 04:53 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote: If you really want to try it with nut yogurt again, try soaking the blanched almonds for at least 7 hours before making the milk to see if that helps. The 'Nourishing Traditions' book recommends this to help remove enzyme inhibitors in nuts/seeds/beans, so that they are easier to digest. Just a quick note -- Elaine was against soaking nuts because of a concern that they would develop unwanted bacteria which could be a problem for anyone, but especially for IBDers. I've understood (and again, I haven't read my NT since before Hurricane Katrina) that the NT method does include a little salt which could inhibit the mold and mildew which were Elaine's concern. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hi Debbie, I take oil of oregano in drop form. I put 1 drop in a tablespoon of water and let it sit under my tongue for 20 seconds then swallow it and follow that right away with some cold water. I have acid reflux and it hasn’t given me heartburn yet. Good luck, Re: Can yogurt constipate? What about straight oil of oregano, mixed with water or olive oil, instead of capsules? I bought some to help prevent/treat colds and flu, but now that I'm on antibiotics for 10 days I thought it might also help prevent candida. The drops, even much diluted, burn my mouth, so I'm thinking it could be very irritating for my newly-diagnosed esophagitis and gastritis. Guess the capsules would be better? Debbie T (UC 29 yrs, SCD 10/06, Lialda) > I, and some others, have had good success with oil of oregano capsules for > candida. But take them at some other time of day than when you eat yogurt, > as they may effect the yogurt (i.e., kill some of the good bacteria as > well as bad). > > n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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