Re: Sleep and side effects

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In a message dated 6/29/2003 12:44:24 AM Central Daylight Time,

suebarr@... writes:

> All ambien and sonata do is get you to sleep but they don't keep you there.

> Restoril and ativan work longer. After a few days that sleeping pill

> hangover seems to go away

it sounds to me like a lot of you insomniacs ought to try trazodone. it will

hit you very hard at first, but in a few days you'll adjust and shouldn't

have the sleeping-pill hangover. it's not an anxiolytic drug, so it isn't

addictive.

p.s. LOOK, i've lost 200 pounds!!

~stacey

Lap RNY 4/1/02

Dr. Srungarum

320 / 130

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I never had sleep apnea, never had a problem sleeping at all until 2

years ago. I do know that this can and often does happen as we get

older, and I'll be 51 in September. I think most of us having the

sleep problems are at least in our 40's. I also think stress is

often a huge factor, with menopause not helping at all, at least in

my case. But for those who never had sleep problems before, I don't

think that apnea is the problem. Maybe we lose the ability to " shut

down " and allow ourselves to succumb to relaxation as we get older,

or it's a rhythmic disturbance that coincides with the lack of cycles

with both men & women. We are cyclical creatures, as is everything

in the Universe. But, before I get too out there, this is something

different than apnea.

in NJ

***************************

>>

> I experience one night or less of insomnia a week, but if I had it

more than that, I'd be begging my PCP for a referral to a sleep

doctor (and not someone who's just going to hand out sleep drugs.)

Just because we're no longer fat doesn't automatically mean we no

longer have sleep apnea or other sleep-related illnesses, and they

can and do kill skinny people too. I would dig for biological causes

of sleep disturbances instead of accepting them if I was really

suffering and had improved the conditions that favor sleep in my life

(eat right, get enough exercise, reduce stress sources, etc.)

>

> Maybe this will change as I get older,

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And if all else fails refer to 1 and 5?

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/335/???

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:05:01 -0700 " Vitalady "

writes:

> Ambien rules:

> 1. do not get out of bed

> 2. back away from the keyboard

> 3. do not catalogue or online shop

> 4. stay out of the kitchen--NO MATTER WHAT

> 5. DO NOT GET OUT OF BED

>

> Guess how I learned?

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Vitalady, Inc. T

> www.vitalady.com

>

> If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

> https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

>

>

>

> Sleep and side effects

>

>

> > Not sure how many of you remember....several years ago, around

> Christmas

> time I think it was....I sent out a post that I wrote shortly after

> taking

> Ambien.

> >

> > What I remember is that I " thought " I had about 30 minutes before

> the pill

> would hit...so was busying myself with bed stuff. Then found myself

> in the

> bathroom plucking my eyebrows. That's the last thing that I can

> really

> recall....the rest was very, very fuzzy....and didn't come to me

> till the

> next morning.

> >

> > Next thing I knew...I saw just these huge lines...wrinkles...like

> a

> Klingon, or Romulan or Ferengi...across my forehead...and I felt

> compelled

> to write everyone on my address book, all the groups I belonged to,

> to tell

> them that when they were 3 years out this would happen to them when

> they

> made the " eyebrow plucking " face.

> >

> > Next day I had lots and lots of emails. Many laughing, many

> concerned...and I was clueless till I read what I wrote. Then I was

> totally

> embarassed!!

> > Lesson learned....if I take ambien or sonata...I MUST BE IN BED

> FIRST!

> >

> > But do I learn? Oh no!! One night I sat at the computer, yelling

> for

> hubby to come and put me to bed. I just couldn't get up!! I kept

> falling

> and staggering. Punch drunk! Another night I decided (again, after

> I took

> the dang pill) to get a certain picture frame and put certain

> pictures in it

> to take to work. Of course, my dexterity wasn't the best at that

> point and

> I couldn't get the pictures in the frame straight. Soooooo, I wake

> Bob up!!

> Have him fix the pictures and tuck me safely into bed.

> > Have I told you what a wonderful man I'm married to? He teases me

> the

> next day, but makes sure I'm safe.

> >

> > Guess one thing I'm driving at is that I have seen myself and

> others have

> different reactions to sleeping meds. All ambien and sonata do is

> get you

> to sleep but they don't keep you there. Restoril and ativan work

> longer.

> After a few days that sleeping pill hangover seems to go away. I

> try not to

> rely on pills to sleep but find that without them I wake in 2-3

> hours then

> my worries kick in and at that point I may as well get up. With a

> good

> nights sleep I can function as a somewhat productive person during

> the day.

> >

> > That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

> >

> > Sue

> > Open RNY 10/26/98

> > >From 500 lbs to 158

> > Dr Barry L Fisher

> >

> > Pease visit my site:

> > http://www.lvcm.com/njtomato/

> >

> > I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet

> > when our wings have trouble remembering

> how to

> fly.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ambien rules:

1. do not get out of bed

2. back away from the keyboard

3. do not catalogue or online shop

4. stay out of the kitchen--NO MATTER WHAT

5. DO NOT GET OUT OF BED

Guess how I learned?

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

Sleep and side effects

> Not sure how many of you remember....several years ago, around Christmas

time I think it was....I sent out a post that I wrote shortly after taking

Ambien.

>

> What I remember is that I " thought " I had about 30 minutes before the pill

would hit...so was busying myself with bed stuff. Then found myself in the

bathroom plucking my eyebrows. That's the last thing that I can really

recall....the rest was very, very fuzzy....and didn't come to me till the

next morning.

>

> Next thing I knew...I saw just these huge lines...wrinkles...like a

Klingon, or Romulan or Ferengi...across my forehead...and I felt compelled

to write everyone on my address book, all the groups I belonged to, to tell

them that when they were 3 years out this would happen to them when they

made the " eyebrow plucking " face.

>

> Next day I had lots and lots of emails. Many laughing, many

concerned...and I was clueless till I read what I wrote. Then I was totally

embarassed!!

> Lesson learned....if I take ambien or sonata...I MUST BE IN BED FIRST!

>

> But do I learn? Oh no!! One night I sat at the computer, yelling for

hubby to come and put me to bed. I just couldn't get up!! I kept falling

and staggering. Punch drunk! Another night I decided (again, after I took

the dang pill) to get a certain picture frame and put certain pictures in it

to take to work. Of course, my dexterity wasn't the best at that point and

I couldn't get the pictures in the frame straight. Soooooo, I wake Bob up!!

Have him fix the pictures and tuck me safely into bed.

> Have I told you what a wonderful man I'm married to? He teases me the

next day, but makes sure I'm safe.

>

> Guess one thing I'm driving at is that I have seen myself and others have

different reactions to sleeping meds. All ambien and sonata do is get you

to sleep but they don't keep you there. Restoril and ativan work longer.

After a few days that sleeping pill hangover seems to go away. I try not to

rely on pills to sleep but find that without them I wake in 2-3 hours then

my worries kick in and at that point I may as well get up. With a good

nights sleep I can function as a somewhat productive person during the day.

>

> That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

>

> Sue

> Open RNY 10/26/98

> >From 500 lbs to 158

> Dr Barry L Fisher

>

> Pease visit my site:

> http://www.lvcm.com/njtomato/

>

> I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet

> when our wings have trouble remembering how to

fly.

>

>

>

>

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makes me feel as if i've been hit in the head with a sledgehammer. just

about 2 minutes ago. cannot open my eyes

Thanks,

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www.vitalady.com

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RE: Sleep and side effects

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: shanlon609@...

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> it sounds to me like a lot of you insomniacs ought to try trazodone.

>

> **********Gotta tell ya, been there done that too,,,,,and I am not exactly

> sure that the term insomnia is exact enough to define what I have tried to

> describe as a lifelong illness for me. Trazodone works but it makes me a

> zombie,,,,,total zombie and I did not have this surgery to be a zombie nor

> do I want to give away any more life force to anything but consciousness.

>

> Thanks for the suggestion tho!

>

> Dan Slone

> Surgery 5/2/2000,Yahoo Msg navwriter

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