Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 1) It's really not FOREVER, like a lot of people on this board will reiterate, but from personal experience I know that I'm not having a problem with cravings like I used to and I think I can attribute this, at least partially to the removal of sodas from my diet. I used to love Diet Coke and Diet Sunkist, just choose to no longer have them. 2) What do you mean not have Starbucks again?!?!?!!? I have it every morning, decaf (sometimes half-caff), nonfat, 2 = latte...that's me . II was worried about this when I began my initial research a year before surgery because people told me I would become lactose-intollerant, not true, at least in my case. I know there are a number of people who do, but I don't believe it's the majority. 3) The liquid part of the diet is dependent solely on your doctor and plan, I was on liguidy foods (milk, mashed potatoes, jello, pudding...) for a couple of weeks and then we started adding in eggs and gradually more and more until at 4/5 weeks out I could have almost anything (within reason and of course on a little of it ). This kind of thing is best for your consultation, they'll let you know what they feel is best. Best of luck Krys! Lap RNY April 9, 2004 348/302/140 (begin/current/goal) www.carrieburns.net > I've " heard " that u can't have any carbonated drinks after surgery for > the rest of your life. I'm a huge soda person (hate water) I was able > to get myself to tolerate diet soda but losing soda forever will be > hard. let alone never having starbucks again. =( > > then I believe I heard a few people say (from watching the oprah > winfrey show) that u are on a liquid diet the first 6 weeks after > surgery. > > I'm sure I'll get a lot of questions answered at my consultation > appointment this Friday but was just curious. =) thanks. > > ~*Krys*~ > > " I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four > minutes. That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's > fussing about. " - Hugh Grant > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Soda is a big no-no......There are a few theories about why. First of all, since there are no gastric acids in the pouch, the soda will eat away at the pouch. Another reason is because it will stretch the pouch. I was told to put soda in a ziploc bag and see what happens.......Why do you say no more starbucks? I never drank coffee before my surgery, now I go to Starbucks all the time. I usually get a nonfat sugar free vanilla latte. Everything in there is OK to drink (milk, sugar free vanilla, and coffee). They say no caffeine for the first month, after that, its fine......Good Luck Mindi 277/165/135 Lap RNY 6/26/03 Size 26/28--> Size 6/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 thank you for responding ! as far as the starbucks I'm assuming the type of drinks I order I won't be able to have. I never get the house coffee or anything. I get strawberries & cream, vanilla crème, Carmel frapachino & egg nog latte. those are the only ones I order. now the 2 crèmes don't have coffee but I'm assuming I can't have the Carmel frap anymore...at least not the venti's that I order! ha-ha but I can't just have straight coffee, it's too strong so I have to add sugar and it's usually 3 or 4 and then I get such a bad stomach ache. and thank u for letting me know not everyone goes on the liquid diet!!! =) ~*Krys*~ " I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes. That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about. " - Hugh Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: Sagel Burns Diet Coke and Diet Sunkist, just choose to no longer have them. 2) What do you mean not have Starbucks again?!?!?!!? I have it every morning, decaf (sometimes half-caff), nonfat, 2 = latte...that's me . II was worried about this when I began my initial research a year before surgery because people told me I would become lactose-intollerant, not true, at least in my case. I know there are a number of people who do, but I don't believe it's the majority. 3) The liquid part of the diet is dependent solely on your doctor and plan, I was on liguidy foods (milk, mashed potatoes, jello, pudding...) for a couple of weeks and then we started adding in eggs and gradually more and more until at 4/5 weeks out I could have almost anything (within reason and of course on a little of it ). This kind of thing is best for your consultation, they'll let you know what they feel is best. Best of luck Krys! Lap RNY April 9, 2004 348/302/140 (begin/current/goal) www.carrieburns.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Krys, If I can just through my thoughts into this topic. First, it is possible to drink soda post-op. I would definetly wait 8-10 weeks before doing so. I am a few days past 17 week mark and can drink about a half of can of soda (slightly flat)before becoming uncomfortable with a bloated feeling. I can tell you that since I have begun to drink soda my servings or portions have also slightly increased, so I don't know if that is due to the soda stretching my pouch or that the honeymoon is over, I HOPE NOT! If you're in need of a soda fix and you haven't drank since surgery, GO SLOW, tiny sips at first. I reality, I'd say stay away from the carbination as long as you can, water serves your body best. I converted from diet soda to water and really enjoy a cold bottle of water over soda... most of the time. Best of luck. -Ray > I've " heard " that u can't have any carbonated drinks after surgery for the rest of your life. I'm a huge soda person (hate water) I was able to get myself to tolerate diet soda but losing soda forever will be hard. let alone never having starbucks again. =( > > then I believe I heard a few people say (from watching the oprah winfrey show) that u are on a liquid diet the first 6 weeks after surgery. > > I'm sure I'll get a lot of questions answered at my consultation appointment this Friday but was just curious. =) thanks. > > ~*Krys*~ > > " I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes. That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about. " - Hugh Grant > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Yeah Krys, that can be a little tough, though depending on your location they will have sugar free syrups (hazelnut, vanilla, and caramel being the ones I see oftentimes in the Atlanta area). And yes, you're right, you'll be lucky to handle more than a tall, but you'll enjoy it when you do, feels good on the baby belly (at least my latte does ). No problem, good luck again, feel free to ask more ??? and always run everything past your doc, because what may apply to this board may not apply to your doctor. Lap RNY April 9, 2004 348/302/140 (begin/current/goal) www.carrieburns.net > thank you for responding ! as far as the starbucks I'm assuming > the type of drinks I order I won't be able to have. I never get the > house coffee or anything. I get strawberries & cream, vanilla crème, > Carmel frapachino & egg nog latte. those are the only ones I order. > now the 2 crèmes don't have coffee but I'm assuming I can't have the > Carmel frap anymore...at least not the venti's that I order! ha-ha > but I can't just have straight coffee, it's too strong so I have to > add sugar and it's usually 3 or 4 and then I get such a bad stomach > ache. > and thank u for letting me know not everyone goes on the liquid > diet!!! =) > > ~*Krys*~ > > " I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four > minutes. That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's > fussing about. " - Hugh Grant > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sagel Burns > Diet Coke and Diet Sunkist, just choose to no longer have them. > > 2) What do you mean not have Starbucks again?!?!?!!? I have it every > morning, decaf (sometimes half-caff), nonfat, 2 = latte...that's me > . > II was worried about this when I began my initial research a year > before surgery because people told me I would become > lactose-intollerant, not true, at least in my case. I know there > are a > number of people who do, but I don't believe it's the majority. > > 3) The liquid part of the diet is dependent solely on your doctor > and > plan, I was on liguidy foods (milk, mashed potatoes, jello, > pudding...) > for a couple of weeks and then we started adding in eggs and > gradually > more and more until at 4/5 weeks out I could have almost anything > (within reason and of course on a little of it ). This kind of > thing > is best for your consultation, they'll let you know what they feel > is > best. > > Best of luck Krys! > > > Lap RNY April 9, 2004 > 348/302/140 (begin/current/goal) > www.carrieburns.net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Also drink decaf, caffeine only dehydrates you and ruins the whole drink plenty of water meaning if you are dehyrating on caffeine... God Bless, Robin, NorthEastern, NY Age- 41 EDD- July 27th, 2004 IT'S A BOY!!!!!! Mommy to: & (twin boys 8 years), Madison, daughter, 5 years and Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988) Gastric Bypass Surgery- October 18th 2002 Start-378, current- 246(pregnant) goal 170 after baby It's a BOY!!!!! Emerson Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 You can have diet soda but try to avoid carbonation. I do drink it, the carbionation, but I am sorry I got back into that bad habit and I think it stretched my pouch a little extra from it and I have to be extra careful. I do not recommend it but if you must try to get as much bubbles as you can out. God Bless, Robin, NorthEastern, NY Age- 41 EDD- July 27th, 2004 IT'S A BOY!!!!!! Mommy to: & (twin boys 8 years), Madison, daughter, 5 years and Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988) Gastric Bypass Surgery- October 18th 2002 Start-378, current- 246(pregnant) goal 170 after baby It's a BOY!!!!! Emerson Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 Congratulatons Robin on the weight loss and pregnancy. I just had my open RNY April 23, 2004 and it was the best thing I've ever done. Since surgery I've been able to get off all meds that I was taking prior to surgery, specially the BP med. I've lost nearly 25 lbs so far and I'm feeling great. I'm working on soft foods now and I'm doing ok. I had my first bad experience yesterday, not sure what it was I did but hope it doesn't come back again...lol. It was one of those days that every food spelled awful and made me neausas, has anyone else experienced that? I'm also trying to get my calories in which has been hard. I try to make sure I get all the protein in which I know is very important. If anyone has any suggestions they would be most welcomed. Take care everyone and God Bless! Laurette Cleveland, Ohio Age 44 RNY 4/23/04 @ St. Charity Hospital, Cleveland God Bless the staff and Dr. Sonpal, they are all wonderful 309/290 @ surgery/266 to date/??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 I didn't know if anyone had already added this, but I was told that caffeine prevents the absorption of vitamins and nutrients in addition to the dehydration. Lap RNY 3/10/04 261/202/125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 A while back I lifted the below information from one of the message boards I read. I'm sorry, I don't remember what board or who posted it but I thought the information was wonderful and saved it. Since carbination is being talked about here I wanted to pass the info on in the hopes it would help others to understand as much as it helped me. CJ _________________________________ Fluid Intake – The Dangers Of Carbonation This is the Success Habit™ that seems to stir people’s deepest emotions. Many weight loss surgery patients see a Diet Coke™, or Diet Pepsi ™, or a Diet {insert your favorite flavor here] as their last and only “acceptable sweet” that’s generally considered to be calorically and socially acceptable. Try to take away this last right and privilege from them and you’ve got a fight on your hands! We’re not interested in fighting, or even arguing, so let’s be completely clear about this; we can’t offer you a hard scientific explanation, or scientific proof that drinking carbonated beverages will hurt your weight loss or weight maintenance efforts. But, if you are really interested in doing your best to be absolutely sure you can successfully lose your excess weight and then keep it off, you’ll carefully consider the evidence. Our Success Habits™ study showed that the most successful patients who reach and maintain their goal weight do not drink carbonated beverages. Additionally, our continuing experience has been that most former patients who have re-gained significant weight, and have returned to the support center to take our Back On Track class, have been drinking carbonated beverages. These two long-term observations tell us that choosing to drink carbonated beverages can be detrimental to your long-term success. Three reasons to avoid carbonated beverages: Distention of the stomach pouch and anastamosis When a cold, carbonated beverage is consumed, it warms and releases carbon dioxide gas that was dissolved in the liquid. This gas can be trapped in your stomach pouch, causing it to distend and needlessly stretch your pouch. While it’s true these gasses are not permanently trapped in your stomach (since they can be released through burping) any unnecessary, uncontrolled, distension of your stomach pouch places you at greater level of risk that you’ll stretch your pouch to the point where you will compromise the effectiveness of the “tool” you’ve worked so hard to obtain. If stretching your stomach pouch is not enough to concern you, consider what happens to your anastamosis (the new stomach outlet) when entrapped gas stretches your pouch. This undue pressure also causes stretching of the anastamosis. It is believed that an enlarged anastamosis is a greater problem than an enlarged stomach is for weight loss surgery patients. The size of the pouch outlet is more critical to the patient’s ability to achieve satiety than the actual size of the stomach pouch. If the anastamosis is too large, food passes through the pouch too easily and will begin to fill and stretch the small intestine, in effect creating a larger holding chamber in the small intestine thereby allowing you to eat a much higher quantity of food before you feel full and your brain receives the signal to stop eating. The combination of a stretched pouch and an enlarged anastamosis are disastrous to your weight loss and/or weight maintenance efforts. Is the momentary pleasure derived from a diet drink worth the risk? Only you can decide. Caloric Intake Many carbonated beverages are high in calories, low in nutritional value and contain simple sugars. Not only do they add additional calories with low nutritional value and little benefit in achieving satiety, but also they are absorbed quickly into the blood stream, causing a rapid rise in blood sugar, elevated insulin levels, and increased hunger. Caffeine Many carbonated beverages contain caffeine, an appetite stimulant, which is detrimental to initial weight loss and long-term weight control. _________________________________________________________________ Learn to simplify your finances and your life in Streamline Your Life from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0405streamline.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 , I will look into the sugar free syrups for sure! and I have been getting myself use to Grande's so I think I can go down to tall's! if I think of anything else I'll be sure to ask, u all are great and I'm glad I found the group! ~*Krys*~ " I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes. That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about. " - Hugh Grant Re: question about soda Yeah Krys, that can be a little tough, though depending on your location they will have sugar free syrups (hazelnut, vanilla, and caramel being the ones I see oftentimes in the Atlanta area). And yes, you're right, you'll be lucky to handle more than a tall, but you'll enjoy it when you do, feels good on the baby belly (at least my latte does ). No problem, good luck again, feel free to ask more ??? and always run everything past your doc, because what may apply to this board may not apply to your doctor. Lap RNY April 9, 2004 348/302/140 (begin/current/goal) www.carrieburns.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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