Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Isabella wan't in them all the way from the beginning. I feel bad, I saw that I couldn't see her heel in the pictures Dee Dee sent but I didn't say anything. It was so far away, hard to be sure. At any rate, if the foot isn't down, it's bad. Which is why it's SOOOOO important to get that heel deeply into the shoe. The best way to do this is to bend the knee, press down with the might of a giant and dorsiflex the sole of the shoe as you push into the shoe. then press into the tongue and tighten tighter than you'd think a babe could handle. Pull on the heel of the shoe, if it moves do this again. And again,and again... till you get it. Then lace tightly. I know you know this, it's for the newbies that I reiterate. Kori At 10:33 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote: >Hey all, > >I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I >think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great >great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for >a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't >come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, >it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have >any chance of rubbing. > >She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any >chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing >blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what >happened with Isabella's poor heels. > >Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the >email. > >Thanks > > & Grace > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 , maybe I'm misunderstanding.. but I think some Markell shoes do come with the cutout, don't they? (I've never seen them in person but have seen a oicture on their Ponseti flyer.. with a U shaped hole in the back of the shoe.) Or do you mean recommending having it cut out in a different location? I know I'm from the Dark Ages on this topic, but when Claire first got her FAB in Iowa, we were told to open the shoes wide, unlaced, hold her heels down completely flat, and draw a line with a pen on the bed of the shoe where her toes reached. Then, once laced up, if the toes slipped behind the line, we'd know her heels had lifted. (Not as clear as having a window but it helped.) The first couple weeks, I kept seeing those toes slip back from the line and was constantly taking the shoes off, repositioning and relacing. I was obsessed! Any slipping and I knew she might lose correction, esp in the equinus. It happened so much in fact that we ended up going back to Iowa, and she got one more cast. I don't know if she had needed one more to begin with, or if she had lost some correction by slipping, or if her foot just got bigger in the weeks she wore that last cast and fit in the shoe better, but after that we never had a problem with slipping again. She never had any blisters, though. > > Hey all, > > I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I > think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great > great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for > a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't > come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, > it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have > any chance of rubbing. > > She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any > chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing > blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what > happened with Isabella's poor heels. > > Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the > email. > > Thanks > > & Grace > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Jay has always struck me as a reasonable man open to ideas and offering ways to help. s. The new Markell shoes Hey all, I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have any chance of rubbing. She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what happened with Isabella's poor heels. Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the email. Thanks & Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 They actually offer them made this way. We had heard he had started making them with the hole in the back, so we asked our orthodist if he carried them, and he said yes. So, I know they are out there. 11/19/04 number23 wrote: Jay has always struck me as a reasonable man open to ideas and offering ways to help. s. The new Markell shoes Hey all, I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have any chance of rubbing. She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what happened with Isabella's poor heels. Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the email. Thanks & Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 , This is how Markell cuts out the heels now, see pic " B " http://www.markellshoe.com/ponsetiflyer.pdf I guess Isabella had this style shoe but her heels were still rising up. How does your Orthotist cut them out?, Up higher? I think it is good the way it is to see if the heel is down, but to prevent sores when they do slip it needs to be cut closer to the top. What do you all think? Oh, and if you're going to email Jay anyway you might throw in there that bit that Dr. Ponseti keeps saying, " Tell Mr. Markell he needs to make his shoes of softer leather. " : ) > > Hey all, > > I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I > think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great > great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for > a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't > come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, > it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have > any chance of rubbing. > > She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any > chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing > blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what > happened with Isabella's poor heels. > > Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the > email. > > Thanks > > & Grace > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Just thought I'd chime in here. I think there has been a bit of confusion between the Markells and the s about the heel. In the Markells the heel must be all the way down. In the s it may take a few weeks for the heel to get all the way down in the shoe, due to the difference in the way they are made. So I think the conversation about the s may have confused some people into thinking it was this way with the Markells too, but it isn't. I hope this clarifies any misconception.... Marcia Re: The new Markell shoes Isabella wan't in them all the way from the beginning. I feel bad, I saw that I couldn't see her heel in the pictures Dee Dee sent but I didn't say anything. It was so far away, hard to be sure. At any rate, if the foot isn't down, it's bad. Which is why it's SOOOOO important to get that heel deeply into the shoe. The best way to do this is to bend the knee, press down with the might of a giant and dorsiflex the sole of the shoe as you push into the shoe. then press into the tongue and tighten tighter than you'd think a babe could handle. Pull on the heel of the shoe, if it moves do this again. And again,and again... till you get it. Then lace tightly. I know you know this, it's for the newbies that I reiterate. Kori At 10:33 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote: >Hey all, > >I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I >think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great >great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for >a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't >come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, >it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have >any chance of rubbing. > >She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any >chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing >blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what >happened with Isabella's poor heels. > >Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the >email. > >Thanks > > & Grace > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 cuts the hole at the back of the shoe but on the side so you can see the heel but so that there would be NO chance of the heel rubbing on the rim of the hole if the foot does slip a bit (does this make sense - I will post a pic on the cf pics site to show exctally what I mean). & Grace > > > > Hey all, > > > > I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new shoes...I > > think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great > > great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this for > > a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they didn't > > come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the shoe, > > it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would have > > any chance of rubbing. > > > > She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be any > > chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and causing > > blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what > > happened with Isabella's poor heels. > > > > Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send the > > email. > > > > Thanks > > > > & Grace > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Yes I think that the hole should be cut in a different spot. Still at the back of the shoe but off to the side where the heel would have no chance of rubbing against the hole in any way if it were to slip a bit in the shoe. The new style shoe that I have seen has a large hole cut directly in the back of the shoe. Our orthotist says that she cuts the hole on the side of the back of the shoe so that there is No chance of the heel rubbing on the lip of the hole which in her opinion could cause a pressure sore. This makes sense to me, not sure if this is what happened with Isabella's foot but those sores which looked more like holes to me =( looked like they were caused by more than rubbing on the back of the shoe...they looked like they were more likely caused by rubbing on the lip of the hole to make those holes kwim? & Grace > > > > Hey all, > > > > I was thinking of sending an email to Jay regarding his new > shoes...I > > think that having a hole cut in the heel's of the shoes is a great > > great idea. Our orthotist (who has a rcf also) has been doing this > for > > a couple of years now. I actually didn't even realise that they > didn't > > come that way. But she cuts the hole in the rear inside of the > shoe, > > it's right where the heel comes down but not where the heel would > have > > any chance of rubbing. > > > > She says that she cuts the hole's there so that there wouldn't be > any > > chance of the heel rubbing the outside edges of the hole and > causing > > blisters or sores hmmmmm. Makes me really wonder if this is what > > happened with Isabella's poor heels. > > > > Would like to get some feedback from you all though before I send > the > > email. > > > > Thanks > > > > & Grace > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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