Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 3:52:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MsMystic1@... writes: << I was just wondering out loud if he might be the surgeon, since I never heard his name mentioned on this list until you started posting. >> Hi, Dr Hares name has been mentioned many, many times. You probably didn't notice since you don't live in Michigan, as I'm sure I don't remember some of the doctors in other states. Those who have mentioned him have said only good things. Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 There is at least one other DS surgeon in the area. There is also a surgeon who used to do WLS and no longer does. From what I understood it was because he had too many problems. I haven't heard of anyone complaining about Dr. Hares and I haven't heard of any problems with patients other than typical stuff. I did ask about the number of people who had problems and fatalities and I was told by his nurse that problems were less than 5% and he had no fatalities. Most of the problems were easily correctable. Dr. Hares is very cautious about the patients he takes on and has lots of tests done for any risk factor prior to surgery. I could tell by talking with him that he is a very intelligent man and really knows his stuff. He isn't arrogant like many surgeons and he really takes a personal interest in his patients. I could go on and on about how wonderful I think he is. I do also know that he will consult with Dr. Hess if he has a more difficult case. Recently a surgery he was doing gave him problems t hat he called Dr. Hess right from the operating room. I guess the patient had very narrow connections and when he tried to put the connector on the ends, the skin stretched so thin he was afraid of tearing. I don't know what the solution was, but Dr. Hess gave him some advice and the patient is now doing great. I have a lot of admiration for someone who knows when to ask for help and isn't afraid to admit they need help. Kathy M. DS 7/19/01 Dr. Hares 213 pre-op 168 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 12:05:37 PM Central Daylight Time, andem4@... writes: > knows when to ask for help and isn't afraid to admit they need help. > I guess he has learned to ask for help over the last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 1:19:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dwkteach@... writes: > I guess he has learned to ask for help over the last year. > What does this mean? Did you or someone you know have problems with Dr. Hares. I have had a wonderful experience with him, but I am only one person. I would really like to know if there is something more that I should know. Please email in private if you would prefer at andem4@.... Kathy M. DS 7/19/01 Dr. Hares 213 pre-op 168 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 1:05:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, andem4@... writes: << I haven't heard of anyone complaining about Dr. Hares and I haven't heard of any problems with patients other than typical stuff. Hi, I just called Dr Hares office, and they charge $4500 in addition to the surgery for " behavior modification " which is their support group. Not covered by BC/BS. What is with these doctors??????????? Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 6:12:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duodenalswitch writes: << There is at least one other DS surgeon in the area. There is also a surgeon who used to do WLS and no longer does. >> Do you know the names of those surgeons? Because I haven't heard of any others in Michigan. I'm really beginning to think that you were just very lucky with this surgeon and that he practiced on others like the anonymous post before he got to you. And maybe now he knows what he is doing. You really should go read the long anonymous post if you want to hear a horror story. Sounds like it could be Dr. Hares to me, because he knows Dr. Hess (the bad surgeon knew Dr. Hess, too, and after he didn't put the patient back together right, he brought her down to Dr. Hess - thank God.) And I know the bad surgeon has a support group that thinks he is wonderful, that, too was in the anonymous post. You really should go and read it. I guess everyone can be glad he finally learned how to do the DS correctly - or at least he learned to call Dr. Hess when he knows he doesn't know what he is doing. I have not gotten any information with a name of the surgeon in question, but it sure seems like it could be Dr. Hares, because I honestly have not heard of this guy until you started posting. nor of other surgeons in Michigan. By any chance does he have kids who are of the age to take a trip to DisneyWorld? Because the bad surgeon had to get his DisneyWorld trip in and couldn't be bothered with his dying patient - so he had her taken to Dr. Hess, who saved her life, or she wouldn't be with us today! I would also like to know how he " trained " with Dr. Hess. If he is saying this, can he back it up? This is just my OWN GUT feeling. I haven't gotten any inside information on the name of the bad surgeon, but........... Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 09/18/2001 6:04:39 PM Central Daylight Time, MsMystic1@... writes: > By any chance does he have kids who are of the age to take a trip to > DisneyWorld? > Because the bad surgeon had to get his DisneyWorld trip in and couldn't be > bothered with his dying patient - so he had her taken to Dr. Hess, who > saved > her life, or she wouldn't be with us today! > Also, is there someone in his office with the title of " director " which is what the anonymous post said there was. Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH BPD/DS 4/27/00 www.duodenalswitch.com 267 to 165 5' 4 " size 22 to size 10 have made size goal no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 7:16:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dwkteach@... writes: << Also, is there someone in his office with the title of " director " which is what the anonymous post said there was. >> Hi, I'm familiar with the post you're referring to, with the dr who didn't put things back together correctly. I don't know who that dr is, but I got the feeling it wasn't anyone in Michigan. I can't say why I think that, I forget, but I don't think it was. I have a very large problem tho with a dr who charges extra for things, esp large amounts of money. That tells me that the dr doesn't really care about me, he/she just cares about money. Surgery is too intimate to have someone like that cut on me. And $4500 is too much to pay for something they decide I need after the surgery. Which I wouldn't even use. Just another money grabber. Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Seems to me that we all seem to think our surgeons are wonderful when we get positive results. Maybe I was too trusting before my surgery, but I did have good results and I am happy now. I have had bad experiences with another doctor before (OB/GYN) and many people thought this doctor was great. I am sure he did great by those other people, but he failed me. I don't know if this makes him a bad doctor, but I would never go to him again. I just hope this doctor learned something from all the bad things that happened with me. Kathy M. DS 7/19/01 213 pre-op 168 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 2:32:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SKeib13337@... writes: > Hi, I just called Dr Hares office, and they charge $4500 in addition to the > surgery for " behavior modification " which is their support group. Not > covered > by BC/BS. What is with these doctors??????????? > I just think its incredible they charge all this extra money. I go to a support group (I run it but I'd still go even if I wasnt the one that started it) for free and it sure doesnt cost much to run one. I think its the way they make up the fees they dont get covered by insurance. If they dont like how insurance pays...then dont contract with them. I realize they need to cover the expense of the office...but somehow they are finding ways around the insurance....seems wrong to me. ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 390.2 -24.9 lbs! -10.75 inches 08/16/01 BMI 58 387.0 -28.1 lbs! -11.25 inches 08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs! -15.5 inches 08/30/01 BMI 58 378.3 -36.8 lbs! -21.25 inches 09/10/01 BMI 57 373.0 -42.1 lbs! My personal website: www.WLS4AJ.homestead.com Check out the Bellingham Support Group at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 What is up is that the doctors are tired of being forced into accepting a small portion of their fees from thief insurance companies. $4,500 is a bit much, in any case. My doctor charges $2,000.00. Nick in Sage Dr. Keshishian 8/29/01 Re: Surgeon > In a message dated 9/18/01 1:05:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, andem4@... > writes: > > << I haven't heard of anyone complaining about Dr. Hares and I haven't heard > of any problems with patients other than typical stuff. > > Hi, I just called Dr Hares office, and they charge $4500 in addition to the > surgery for " behavior modification " which is their support group. Not covered > by BC/BS. What is with these doctors??????????? > Sheryl > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 9:49:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Singing4us@... writes: << Sheryl I am from Michigan and I went to Dr Scholten in Grand Rapids, he is the only one in Michigan that I found that did not charge any other fee's. If your interested email me and I will forward you his number. My best friend also had her DS through him and she did well also with her surgery. Dr Scholten does both the RNY and the DS, you can chose the surgery you want he doesn't try to persuade you in either direction. >> Thank you Renae. I see his name on the DS website, but hadn't heard anything about him. It's good to hear he's good. And congratulations on your loss! Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 10:11:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lookn2bthin@... writes: << realize they need to cover the expense of the office...but somehow they are finding ways around the insurance....seems wrong to me. >> yes, they're taking advantage of the vulnerable just to fatten their wallets. I really don't mind paying $4500 for surgery if my insurance doesn't cover it, but I don't like being taken advantage of by being made to pay that amount for a service I don't want and won't use. I wouldn't drive an hour and a half for a support group. Seems I was wrong in thinking about going there anyway. Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 In a message dated 9/18/01 6:19:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dwkteach@... writes: << Doctor Hess does require upfront money of $2500 from some insurances that pay poorly for the surgical fee. However, then mine paid well so I was reimbursed my $2500. >> Thanks Dawn. I don't mind the $2500 if they don't charge a processing fee! And it sounds like Dr Hess is great. Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 Sheryl I am from Michigan and I went to Dr Scholten in Grand Rapids, he is the only one in Michigan that I found that did not charge any other fee's. If your interested email me and I will forward you his number. My best friend also had her DS through him and she did well also with her surgery. Dr Scholten does both the RNY and the DS, you can chose the surgery you want he doesn't try to persuade you in either direction. 2/27/01 245 lbs 9/4/01 174lbs 71lbs gone Renae J >From: dwkteach@... >Reply-To: duodenalswitch >To: duodenalswitch >Subject: Re: Surgeon >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:13:04 EDT > >In a message dated 09/18/2001 4:32:33 PM Central Daylight Time, >SKeib13337@... writes: > > > > Hi, I just called Dr Hares office, and they charge $4500 in addition to >the > > surgery for " behavior modification " which is their support group. Not > > covered > > by BC/BS. What is with these doctors??????????? > > Sheryl > > > >Sheryl, > >Doctor Hess does require upfront money of $2500 from some insurances that >pay >poorly for the surgical fee. However, then mine paid well so I was >reimbursed my $2500. If Dr. Hares was within distance from you, Dr. Hess >(although probably a great deal farther) may be within distance also. >Aside >from shortness from one person in his office, I don't think you would be >sorry going to him. He keeps the whole process pretty streamlined. >Although >they schedule dates pretty far out, once you get insurance approval, you >can >usually be moved up quite nicely. My original surgical date was Sept 19 >and >when I got insurance approval I was moved up to April 27! > >Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area >Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH >BPD/DS >4/27/00 >www.duodenalswitch.com >267 to 165 5' 4 " >size 22 to size 10 >have made size goal >no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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