Re: OT - My cholesterol and thyroid results

[Guest guest]

At 04:48 PM 3/19/2010, you wrote:

My cholesterol has ballooned up

to 314!

Find some Jarrow brand PANTETHINE.

450 mg in the morning and 450 mg in the evening OR 300 mg 3x a

day.

http://www.pantethine.net/

for information about it.

You may want to search around for a better price on the Jarrow (the web

site referenced above sells it, but I have not purchased anything from

them -- I usually pick it up at Whole Foods.)

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I posted about thyroid and cholesterol, but I don't see it so I'll repeat this.

There is a relationship between low thyroid and high cholesterol. Your TSH is

elevated. Even if T4 is normal, your thyroid is working overtime to keep it that

way. This could make your cholestrol go up.

I wish your doctor would agree to treat the thyroid before using a statin.

PJ

>

> Yesterday I had a very disappointing doctor's appointment. My cholesterol has

ballooned up to 314!

>

> HDL = 87 (down a few points from last time)

> LDL = 211

>

> My doc (a new one) is insisting on a statin (as did my old one, before I

left). At this point, I don't feel like I have a choice. The only changes since

my last test (results were 264) are: surgery, quitting humira, starting LDN, and

regularly taking garlic (sure didn't help any).

>

> Thyroid results were abnormal, but my doc doesn't feel it warrants any further

tests or treatment:

>

> TSH = 5.670 (range .450 - 4.5) - 1 year ago it was 3.99

> Free T4 (Direct) = 1.34 (range .82 - 1.77)

>

> I can't afford to pay for the tests myself, or go to a good thyroid doctor, so

I'm just kind of screwed.

>

> Ferritin is also down to 36. Yuck. All in all, major disappoint abounds :-(.

>

> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

>

[Guest guest]

Holly,Two things. First, the high cholesterol. My doctor here (in the UK) told me that they found, by gathering data from high cholesterol patients around the world, that high cholesterol needed to be in the presence of other risk indicators before it was recommended to be treated otherwise they were killing people by putting them on high cholesterol meds. The other risk factors are diabetes, high blood pressure, smoking, age, gender and ethnicity. Usually I have been found to have higher cholesterol, but the ratio of 'good to bad' is o.k. I see it is the other way around for you meaning your LDL is too high, which normally is bad. Do you remember, though, recently someone posted an article regarding LDL and that there were in fact something like 5

different types of LDL and not all of them were bad like originally thought. I would keep these things in mind before consenting to taking statin drugs.The other thing is that your TSH is too high. You are off the high end of even the OLD range. The current recommended range (as of 2003) is more like .3 - 3.0 Your doctor and the lab he uses are way out of date. You are most definitely hypo range if he is diagnosing simply by TSH -- which one should never do. I am not familar with the reference range you posted for the Free T4 nor the designation 'Direct,' so I can't comment on it, however, to get a better picture you needed to have the Free T3 done at a minimum as well. Do you have that? Did he do antibodies testing to see if your body was attacking either the gland or the hormone?Your low ferritin could be one of the results of being hypo. It happens because for some reason

hypo can also lead to low stomach acid which in turn decreases the bodys ability to breakdown food which decreases the ability to release and absorb nutrients. Including B12, iron, trace minerals and other vitamins.And, if you have been going like this for a while, you could also be stressing your adrenal glands, and if that happens you could possibly be not producing adequate cortisol -- necessary to get the T3 into the cells and helps the body regulate inflammation.There is more of a puzzle here than seems at first glance.AmeliaFrom: spookyhurst

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:48:13 PMSubject: OT - My cholesterol and thyroid results

Yesterday I had a very disappointing doctor's appointment. My cholesterol has ballooned up to 314!

HDL = 87 (down a few points from last time)

LDL = 211

My doc (a new one) is insisting on a statin (as did my old one, before I left). At this point, I don't feel like I have a choice. The only changes since my last test (results were 264) are: surgery, quitting humira, starting LDN, and regularly taking garlic (sure didn't help any).

Thyroid results were abnormal, but my doc doesn't feel it warrants any further tests or treatment:

TSH = 5.670 (range .450 - 4.5) - 1 year ago it was 3.99

Free T4 (Direct) = 1.34 (range .82 - 1.77)

I can't afford to pay for the tests myself, or go to a good thyroid doctor, so I'm just kind of screwed.

Ferritin is also down to 36. Yuck. All in all, major disappoint abounds :-(.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

[Guest guest]

Holly

Your cholesterol reading could be due to you being hypo. I know heaps of girls on the thyroid group. That have had this problem and there cholesterol has gone down when they have started desiccated thyroid or t3. The statement below is from Stop the thyroid madness website.

Cholesterol is essential to your body. It is the precursor of pregnenolone, which Dr. Peatfield called “grandmother of the adrenal hormonesâ€. It is needed for development of the brain and nervous system, and for fertilization and fetal health. In the skin, under sunlight, cholesterol produces vitamin D. In the 1960’s, Dr. Broda proved that when thyroid function is low, the cholesterol level in the blood rises, and when thyroid hormone is administered, the level drops again. Yet, according to Dr. ph Mercola, at least 12 million Americans take cholesterol-lowering drugs, mostly statins.

You are extremely hypo. You were hypo a year ago.

Are these 2 tests too expensive. If you can get these done then you will know what meds you can take. You do not need a doctor for these and there are 2 labs in your home town.

http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_cart_show.php

First thing you should do for your ferritin is to buy a bottle of 500mg tabs of vit c. Take 1 tab with lunch and dinner.

Sky

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, 20 March, 2010 7:48:13 AMSubject: OT - My cholesterol and thyroid results

Yesterday I had a very disappointing doctor's appointment. My cholesterol has ballooned up to 314!HDL = 87 (down a few points from last time)LDL = 211My doc (a new one) is insisting on a statin (as did my old one, before I left). At this point, I don't feel like I have a choice. The only changes since my last test (results were 264) are: surgery, quitting humira, starting LDN, and regularly taking garlic (sure didn't help any).Thyroid results were abnormal, but my doc doesn't feel it warrants any further tests or treatment:TSH = 5.670 (range .450 - 4.5) - 1 year ago it was 3.99Free T4 (Direct) = 1.34 (range .82 - 1.77)I can't afford to pay for the tests myself, or go to a good thyroid doctor, so I'm just kind of screwed.Ferritin is also down to 36. Yuck. All in all, major disappoint abounds :-(.HollyCrohn'sSCD 12/01/08

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Thank you for this information. My Cholesterol--genetically high--

has gone up.

Found a wonderful GI doc; he recommended vitacost for supplements.

Holly,

The vitacost website has Jarrow listed. For 60 450 milligram

softgels, their price is $16.52.

Ruth

Re: OT - My cholesterol and thyroid resultsPosted by: " Wizop Marilyn

L. Alm " LouisianaSCDLagniappe@... marilynxaFri Mar 19, 2010

3:13 pm (PDT)

At 04:48 PM 3/19/2010, you wrote:

>My cholesterol has ballooned up to 314!

Find some Jarrow brand PANTETHINE.

450 mg in the morning and 450 mg in the evening OR 300 mg 3x a day.

http://www.pantethine.net/

for information about it.

You may want to search around for a better price on the Jarrow (the

web site referenced above

sells it, but I have not purchased anything from them -- I usually

pick it up at Whole Foods.)

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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