Re: Face lifts

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Ceep said:

What you see in Joan Rivers, I think as an artist, is loss of cutaneous fat

right under the surface in the area of what are called the 'tear troughs.'.

Actually, I think she looks so much better now than she did with that

spray-helmet hairdo. I think you might like her a little better too if she

wasn't so harsh with people. Sometimes beauty is greater if the heart is

greater also.

**************** While you may be right, I just *might* be allowing her

personality to give me a more jaded viewpoint of her, it really wasn't

conscious on my part. I feel I was looking at her face from a purely

aesthetic point of view. She, to me, looked more like a waxwork of herself,

as opposed to a real person. My mother always told me... " pretty is as pretty

does. " So, you are probably right on that count. Funny, I didn't even

notice her hairdo, I was so shocked by the facelift that she obviously had

recently.

Ceep said:

Personally, I think women should do whatever they like, for they usually have

spent so many decades doing exactly the opposite. There are BAD sugeons in

this world. When you see people who have been for plastics who now look like

caracatures, that is not the person's fault. The fault lies with the doc who

either overstepped reasonable boundaries or doesn't know what he/she is

doing. While it is true taht different bodies (faces) react in different ways

to food, additives, surgery, plastics, a doc is supposed to be able to help,

not harm

*********************** I agree with this fully. I was just watching a panel

of women, two of which I recognized as show biz people, and both have had

obvious work done on their faces. They are both 50+, and really look young,

with the exception of that flat stretched look. How can a PS actually KNOW

what his work is actually going to look like when he is finished? Each face

and body is so unique within itself. But it seems, they are all starting to

have the same look. As I said before, like they are taking too many " G's. "

That, at least, in my eyes, is not pretty. These woman, as does Joan Rivers,

in my estimation, have the means to find that absolute best in the arena of

surgeons. Who knows, maybe what's pretty to me, is horrible to them and vice

versa, but to me, they are all beginning to look alike. Maybe they are all

going to the same surgeon, do ya suppose? Not trying to turn anyone off from

making the best of themselves, but really, think twice and check out your

sources before going under the knife. I had a friend who I nursed through a

face lift...and it went really bad on her. For what she went through, I

think I'm scared off...and especially now that I see what it does to us older

women. I'll just take my age, and do it as gracefully as possible. =^)

Regards~

Jacque

Distal RNY, 5/30/00

Drs. Fox and Oh

310~126

Beginning BMI 50.0

Current BMI 20.3

[Guest guest]

It's not just limited to women, either. I remember seeing Burt

Reynolds on Regis a couple of years ago, and his face was pulled so

tight, he shouldn't have been allowed out in public...he was really

scary looking.

in NJ

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> I feel I was looking at her face from a purely aesthetic point of

view. She, to me, looked more like a waxwork of herself, as opposed

to a real person.