Re: How to Feed your dog raw food - Was: Thinking of getting a poodle - wondering how it will affect Crohn's?

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Amelia about the uncooked meat, if you have some way of freezing it before giving it to the dog, this will kill all bacteria or parasites and feed it to the dog sort of frozen - I do that and they love it. Terry

Thanks! for the info on feeding raw. How would you suggest transitioning over to raw for a young dog (3 years) and an older dog (maybe 11 years)?Well, since I wasn't sure what I was doing with Shadow and Sunny, I was very careful about introducing vegetables, and such. I ground each vegetable separately, and packaged it separately, and was really careful about making sure they got some of each kind of vegetable every week.... and in one sense, it was worth it. I read, many times, of people having trouble with getting their dogs to eat vegetables. I never had an issue with Shadow and Sunny, because they got to try the single veggies. (I established that they loved green beans, baby peas, avocado, carrots, spinach, lettuces, zucchini, cucumbers, parsley, broccoli, and cauliflower, and really, really didn't like turnips or lima beans.Now I do a big batch of the lettuces

with either spinach or parsley, always zucchini and cucumber because it helps by grinder/juicer handle the leafy stuff, carrots, green beans, and whatever other pieces of vegetables I have left over from making veggie soup or our meals. I freeze it in containers, and take down one container a day. If we are traveling, I will succumb to using jarred baby food, but I don't recommend it. We mix the red meat with the veggies just before we feed them.With Babette, well... I offered the chicken wings, and she hasn't looked back. She thinks red meat and veggies is fine. Absolutely NO hesitation on that girl's part!On weekends, when we have poached eggs, I split one jumbo egg between the three of them as an extra snack each day.Have I mentioned they like almond bread and pecan bread? The Great Galoot, aka Shadow, figured out how to push a heavy oak dining chair away from my dining table, get up on the chair, get up on the table, and ate

TWO WHOLE LOAVES of nut bread! He didn't even share them with his sister!!

— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle

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At 04:25 PM 3/22/2010, you wrote:

I mentioned the raw diet for

Tess to my husband and he said he wouldn't do it in a place like India

because he didn't think the meat supply was safe enough to be eaten

uncooked. Have you any experience in this? He is worried

about parasites and such.

Your husband may have a valid point.

I legitimately don't know. I have some dim recollection of a problem with

this in Australia (where much of the raw food for fur kids seems to have

originated), and that it was solved by freezing the meat solid for around

a month, but I don't know the details on it, and would hate to advise you

incorrectly.

The list where I learned what I know about raw feeding is here:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/

I think some of the people now advocate whole-carcass feeding instead

of doing " veggie slop " and there are some who say that no

veggies at all are needed. But when I started, the formula was as I

mentioned in the other email. And Shadow and Sunny have done so well with

it that I see no reason to change what works.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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Terry,That is good news! Thanks. BTW, must it be fed partially frozen or can it be fully thawed and still be safe? My next question is to satisfy DH, but it is scientifically certain that the parasites/worms are dead and can't 'reactive' within the warmth of the animal?AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 11:59:49 PMSubject: Re: How to Feed your dog raw food - Was: Thinking of getting a poodle - wondering how it will affect Crohn's?

Amelia about the uncooked meat, if you have some way of freezing it before giving it to the dog, this will kill all bacteria or parasites and feed it to the dog sort of frozen - I do that and they love it. Terry

Thanks! for the info on feeding raw. How would you suggest transitioning over to raw for a young dog (3 years) and an older dog (maybe 11 years)?Well, since I wasn't sure what I was doing with Shadow and Sunny, I was very careful about introducing vegetables, and such. I ground each vegetable separately, and packaged it separately, and was really careful about making sure they got some of each kind of vegetable every week.... and in one sense, it was worth it. I read, many times, of people having trouble with getting their dogs to eat vegetables. I never had an issue with Shadow and Sunny, because they got to try the single veggies. (I established that they loved green beans, baby peas, avocado, carrots, spinach, lettuces, zucchini, cucumbers, parsley, broccoli, and cauliflower, and really, really didn't like turnips or lima beans.Now I do a big batch of the lettuces

with either spinach or parsley, always zucchini and cucumber because it helps by grinder/juicer handle the leafy stuff, carrots, green beans, and whatever other pieces of vegetables I have left over from making veggie soup or our meals. I freeze it in containers, and take down one container a day. If we are traveling, I will succumb to using jarred baby food, but I don't recommend it. We mix the red meat with the veggies just before we feed them.With Babette, well... I offered the chicken wings, and she hasn't looked back. She thinks red meat and veggies is fine. Absolutely NO hesitation on that girl's part!On weekends, when we have poached eggs, I split one jumbo egg between the three of them as an extra snack each day.Have I mentioned they like almond bread and pecan bread? The Great Galoot, aka Shadow, figured out how to push a heavy oak dining chair away from my dining table, get up on the chair, get up on the table, and ate

TWO WHOLE LOAVES of nut bread! He didn't even share them with his sister!!

— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle

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Amelia I had a doctor tell me about the raw meat and she gives it to her dogs that way, partially frozen, and of course, the animal has a tremendous digestion system and is truly carnivorous, but if you want to go a step further, and you can afford it, you can give them organic organs, and by the way, I presume that you know, that dogs should be given ONLY organ meats, liver, kidney, heart, I usually put raw liver on top of their dog food, I give them Blue Buffalo, Wilderness, Salmon, which is grain free, cause I believe the carbs slow them down. I also have a tea which is a cleanser to the dogs themselves, (which the doc recommended) which I put right into the raw blood of the organ meat I am giving them, on top of their food, with some broccoli or they love many other vegs. My dogs get a lot of exercise, we

walk with them probably 3 or 4 miles a day, they are labradoodles, 2 of them, and one who is more poodle can jump hurdles of 10 ft. Let me know if I can give you any more info. Terry

Thanks! for the info on feeding raw. How would you suggest transitioning over to raw for a young dog (3 years) and an older dog (maybe 11 years)?Well, since I wasn't sure what I was doing with Shadow and Sunny, I was very careful about introducing vegetables, and such. I ground each vegetable separately, and packaged it separately, and was really careful about making sure they got some of each kind of vegetable every week.... and in one sense, it was worth it. I read, many times, of people having trouble with getting their dogs to eat vegetables. I never had an issue with Shadow and Sunny, because they got to try the single veggies. (I established that they loved green beans, baby peas, avocado, carrots, spinach, lettuces, zucchini, cucumbers, parsley, broccoli, and cauliflower, and really, really didn't like turnips or lima beans.Now I do a big batch of the lettuces

with either spinach or parsley, always zucchini and cucumber because it helps by grinder/juicer handle the leafy stuff, carrots, green beans, and whatever other pieces of vegetables I have left over from making veggie soup or our meals. I freeze it in containers, and take down one container a day. If we are traveling, I will succumb to using jarred baby food, but I don't recommend it. We mix the red meat with the veggies just before we feed them.With Babette, well... I offered the chicken wings, and she hasn't looked back. She thinks red meat and veggies is fine. Absolutely NO hesitation on that girl's part!On weekends, when we have poached eggs, I split one jumbo egg between the three of them as an extra snack each day.Have I mentioned they like almond bread and pecan bread? The Great Galoot, aka Shadow, figured out how to push a heavy oak dining chair away from my dining table, get up on the chair, get up on the table, and ate

TWO WHOLE LOAVES of nut bread! He didn't even share them with his sister!!

— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle

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Labradoodles are a very handsome breed. MaraAmelia I had a doctor tell me about the raw meat and she gives it to her dogs that way, partially frozen, and of course, the animal has a tremendous digestion system and is truly carnivorous, but if you want to go a step further, and you can afford it, you can give them organic organs, and by the way, I presume that you know, that dogs should be given ONLY organ meats, liver, kidney, heart, I usually put raw liver on top of their dog food, I give them Blue Buffalo, Wilderness, Salmon, which is grain free, cause I believe the carbs slow them down. I also have a tea which is a cleanser to the dogs themselves, (which the doc recommended) which I put right into the raw blood of the organ meat I am giving them, on top of their food, with some broccoli or they love many other vegs. My dogs get a lot of exercise, we walk with them probably 3 or 4 miles a day, they are labradoodles, 2 of them, and one who is more poodle can jump hurdles of 10 ft. Let me know if I can give you any more info.