Re: brace question - loose tooth to Cammie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. I will try not to fiddle with it but it is

very painful when my teeth hit as this is the only tooth that meets

the upper teeth right now. I have had my lower braces on for 5 weeks

and the upper ones for 2 months.

I just hope the pain will go away and that the tooth will somehow

settle and stop moving.

Actually glad I have those braces on now as I feel those wires

actually keep it more or less in place.

Iam looking forward to surgery a lot!!!

Thanks again

Karola

> >

> > I hope someone can help me out here. Today while brushing teeth

I

> > had a weird feeling around my lower back molar - the one banded.

I

> > checked afterwards and to my horror discovered that it was

> actually

> > moving sort of up and down. Sadly due to my open bite that is

the

> > only place where my teeth meet so it is under constant pressure.

I

> > called my ortho in despair and he told me not to panic because

> this

> > can happen and he will check it at my next appointment - a week

> form

> > next Tuesday.

> > I am still worried and honestly am fed up with this whole thing

> and

> > feel it is actually ruining my whole life and doubt if it ever

> work

> > fine again.

> > Has this happened to any of you?

> > Karola

[Guest guest]

Karola,

Do you still have your wisdom teeth? I had that issue as well... they

put in a spacer at some point and the tiny shifting caused INTENSE

pain in that area whenever it was touched. At first I ignored it but it

just got worse. Then eventually it was so bad it was intollerable. I

went to the ortho and he said it was my wisdom tooth... it had been

moved a little. The pain was so intense, it was hard to really pinpoint

where it was starting from. he sent me to the surgeon that day who

popped out the wisdom tooth (the top one- even though I swore it was

the bottom that was hurting) literally the SECOND that tooth was out of

my head, the pain was gone. Don't know if that is possibly part of

whats causing your pain... maybe the band is loose and pushed the

wisdom tooth or something... normally the loose band is

uncomfortable... maybe even a bit painful but in my experience, it has

never been unmanagably painful. Of course, since those are the only

teeth that are touching, it may be different for you. If it is that

bad, I'd follow Katja's advice and call the ortho to see you sooner.

There is no reason you should endure the pain for a whole other week.

Best,

Tova

>

> Thanks for the advice. I will try not to fiddle with it but it is

> very painful when my teeth hit as this is the only tooth that meets

> the upper teeth right now. I have had my lower braces on for 5 weeks

> and the upper ones for 2 months.

> I just hope the pain will go away and that the tooth will somehow

> settle and stop moving.

> Actually glad I have those braces on now as I feel those wires

> actually keep it more or less in place.

> Iam looking forward to surgery a lot!!!

> Thanks again

> Karola

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I hope someone can help me out here. Today while brushing teeth

> I

> > > had a weird feeling around my lower back molar - the one banded.

> I

> > > checked afterwards and to my horror discovered that it was

> > actually

> > > moving sort of up and down. Sadly due to my open bite that is

> the

> > > only place where my teeth meet so it is under constant pressure.

> I

> > > called my ortho in despair and he told me not to panic because

> > this

> > > can happen and he will check it at my next appointment - a week

> > form

> > > next Tuesday.

> > > I am still worried and honestly am fed up with this whole thing

> > and

> > > feel it is actually ruining my whole life and doubt if it ever

> > work

> > > fine again.

> > > Has this happened to any of you?

> > > Karola

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ARe you using warm saltwater gargles? Do you see anything that looks

red or inflamed in there? I'll bet your ortho can figure out what's

going on, and maybe he can even make you some sort of splint or

other device that keeps these intensely painful teeth from hitting

without upsetting your bite even more.

I used a product called Glyoxide the whole time I was in braces, and

still do. It's essentially dilute hydrogen peroxide in some sort of

glycerine or other solution. It's pleasant to use, and might be

helpful. I used it twice a week. Why not call your ortho's office

and ask about it? (Or about using dilute hydrogen peroxide.)

I also used fluorine products twice a week -- Prevident, Gel-Kam,

etc. That may be useful to you, as well.

But first you and your ortho need to figure out whassup. Meantime,

I'm sorry you hurt. I'm reasonably sure that the warm saltwater

rinse won't hurt.

And I understand completely about being grateful for the support of

the braces. I even told my ortho, just before he took mine off, that

I was afraid.

He thought I meant the procedure for removing them. I told him that

wasn't the problem -- that they were my security blanket about the

teeth moving.

C.

> > >

> > > I hope someone can help me out here. Today while brushing

teeth

> I

> > > had a weird feeling around my lower back molar - the one

banded.

> I

> > > checked afterwards and to my horror discovered that it was

> > actually

> > > moving sort of up and down. Sadly due to my open bite that is

> the

> > > only place where my teeth meet so it is under constant

pressure.

> I

> > > called my ortho in despair and he told me not to panic because

> > this

> > > can happen and he will check it at my next appointment - a

week

> > form

> > > next Tuesday.

> > > I am still worried and honestly am fed up with this whole

thing

> > and

> > > feel it is actually ruining my whole life and doubt if it ever

> > work

> > > fine again.

> > > Has this happened to any of you?

> > > Karola

[Guest guest]

Hi Cammie,

I began this process last summer when in my hometown an ortho took

all the molds and x-rays and then again was subjected to the whole

initial examinations when they began my treatment in the capital. So

I would think they should have noticed if something was not ok. In

addition my dentist, whom I respect and who is very conscientious,

had a look at x-rays and filled even the tiniest cavities. Besides I

have had all my teeth out before my bite began to open in my

twenties.

I live in Hungary. And you weren't so far off as Karoly is actually

the male equivalent of Karola. I am treated in the capital,

basically the only place where they do such things in Hungary

(population 10 million)and so I presume this ortho has seen a lot.

You're making me more anxious but I hope - although not know what

food traps are - that there's no food trapped anywhere after all the

cleaning I do. I use a Braun Oral-B unit which has a waterpic and

heads for braces and normal heads for the normal tooth surfaces. And

those tiny brushes too and last time I went I asked them to check

how well I was doing at cleaning teeth and the assistant

congratulated me on how clean my teeth were.

But I don't fluss at all because it is so painful and my teeth are

so incredibly tight. She said it was ok as the waterpic does the job.

I am sorry you have a hard time of rebuilding your house. For us it

will be easier in that sense because we move in whenever it is

ready. And it is quite an excitement. We are actually lucky because

my husband came into a plot of land which would have been so

expensive we couldn't have built a house had we had to buy land. Not

many young people in Hungary are this lucky. My dream was to raise

my future kids in a house with a garden and not in a block of flats

and now the house part is becoming true.

I didn't say my treatment or ortho were barbaric, I meant forcing to

move bone and cutting someones face in half. I had a breakdown last

night after reading an article someone here posted a link to. I

really shouldn't read about how it is done - it freaks me out.

My next appointment is in a week and I hope it won't get worse. But

I try to keep teeth apart for most of the time. Sometimes however my

jaws decide to shut on their own accord. Especially when I talk a

lot (being a teacher means a lot of that) my jaws just suddenly shut

and then bang ....

I am glad for this board. People generally don't understand a thing

and I stopped trying to explain them.

Karola

[Guest guest]

Honey, if your docs have okayed what you're doing, I'd trust them.

Food traps are because I am an old -- 59, almost 60-year old person -

- and my gums have receded. Not because of the braces; just because

that can happen. What it means is that food sticks down beside the

molars, and is the dickens to get out, no matter what tools you use!

Alas.

Now whoa! I don't understand this one: " I

> have had all my teeth out before my bite began to open in my

> twenties. "

I'm hoping that means you had all your teeth CHECKED out. " Out " here

would mean removed, in which case you wouldn't be needing ortho!

So does that mean you see docs in the beautiful Budapest, where the

Danube flows? I have never been there, but would love to visit,

someday. Or is there another capital these days? The maps have

changed vastly since last I studied geography...

And I hope that the site for your home will be idyllic, with all the

veggies, flowers and children (not in that order, of course) that

you could wish to cultivate. Yes, anyone, anywhere, who happens to

own a piece of ground is fortunate, and I hope you will enjoy living

there.

Do remember that the treatment is honestly NOT barbaric -- even the

surgeries. They are performed, at least hereabouts, by caring

professionals, who go to great pains to diminish any unpleasant

results, and most people do not have trouble. That's not to say,

alas, that you will have no complications guaranteed, but it is to

say that it's likely that you will do well, and be much happier with

your mouth and bite after all this is over. And without a lot of

pain, I hope, along the way!

It's a lot easier than trying to put a house together/back together,

I promise!

You are absolutely correct. Most people do not understand at all! At

least those who have not had this treatment. If I had a nickel for

every friend who'd told me I didn't know what I was doing, I'd be

able to pay off the remodeling/repairing costs!

Flossing may well become easier as you go along, and your teeth move

into better alignment. There are some tools here in the U.S. that

can make it easier, like Glide Floss Threaders. (Although maybe you

have better stuff already.)

If you want to know more, e-mail me at ceast36532 (at) yahoo (dot)

com, and I'll try to make my way through the international mail

thicket to send you some. (On my nickel. They are lightweight, so

the postage should not be expensive.)

Best,

C.

>

> Hi Cammie,

> I began this process last summer when in my hometown an ortho took

> all the molds and x-rays and then again was subjected to the whole

> initial examinations when they began my treatment in the capital.

So

> I would think they should have noticed if something was not ok. In

> addition my dentist, whom I respect and who is very conscientious,

> had a look at x-rays and filled even the tiniest cavities. Besides

I

> have had all my teeth out before my bite began to open in my

> twenties.

> I live in Hungary. And you weren't so far off as Karoly is

actually

> the male equivalent of Karola. I am treated in the capital,

> basically the only place where they do such things in Hungary

> (population 10 million)and so I presume this ortho has seen a lot.

> You're making me more anxious but I hope - although not know what

> food traps are - that there's no food trapped anywhere after all

the

> cleaning I do. I use a Braun Oral-B unit which has a waterpic and

> heads for braces and normal heads for the normal tooth surfaces.

And

> those tiny brushes too and last time I went I asked them to check

> how well I was doing at cleaning teeth and the assistant

> congratulated me on how clean my teeth were.

> But I don't fluss at all because it is so painful and my teeth are

> so incredibly tight. She said it was ok as the waterpic does the

job.

>

> I am sorry you have a hard time of rebuilding your house. For us

it

> will be easier in that sense because we move in whenever it is

> ready. And it is quite an excitement. We are actually lucky

because

> my husband came into a plot of land which would have been so

> expensive we couldn't have built a house had we had to buy land.

Not

> many young people in Hungary are this lucky. My dream was to raise

> my future kids in a house with a garden and not in a block of

flats

> and now the house part is becoming true.

>

> I didn't say my treatment or ortho were barbaric, I meant forcing

to

> move bone and cutting someones face in half. I had a breakdown

last

> night after reading an article someone here posted a link to. I

> really shouldn't read about how it is done - it freaks me out.

>

> My next appointment is in a week and I hope it won't get worse.

But

> I try to keep teeth apart for most of the time. Sometimes however

my

> jaws decide to shut on their own accord. Especially when I talk a

> lot (being a teacher means a lot of that) my jaws just suddenly

shut

> and then bang ....

>

> I am glad for this board. People generally don't understand a

thing

> and I stopped trying to explain them.

> Karola

[Guest guest]

Actually, Karola, my knowledge of geography isn't as good as it ought

to be -- especially since quite a few continents have had some big

changes in the last couple of decades. Not that change isn't a good

thing, at least sometimes, but when they start rearranging boundaries

that my knowledge of is shaky -- well, it complicates things!

I think, too, that it's easier to learn geography when you've had a

chance (very slight, in my case) to know people who've lived or

visited, or who are visiting in different places. I've been blessed

with that, although I haven't done as much traveling as I might have.

I would bet that South Carolina offered you a real " culture shock " !

And yes, you are a skinny minnie! You definitely do need some extra

calories, I'd say. If you can't do a banana (sorry!) do a blended

banana. In a milkshake, perhaps with some peanut butter, chocolate

and whey protein blended in.

C.

>

> I realised after I posted that it does not sound the way it was

> meant to. Sure, I meant I had all my teeth where they were supposed

> to be before developing an open bite. In fact, I had such perfect

> teeth that in high school people kept asking if they were real!!

> They were the only part of my body I was proud of - now with that

> gone ...

>

> Yep, I go to Budapest every third week. Although I think it is

> beautiful if I look at it with tourist eyes, but definitely one

> place where I would not like to live. Traffic is crazy!! But my

> loving husband drives me every time. He keeps telling me to drive

(I

> drive to work every day) there because it may happen that one day I

> will have to drive myself, but I just can't bring myself to. I like

> our car too much

>

> I am impressed actually with your knowledge of geography. As far as

> I know you in the States don't study much geography. At least in

the

> school where I taught last year (Columbia, South Carolina) they

> didn't teach geography. It may be a matter of school planning or

> course planning and different from school to school.

>

> Thank you for the generous offer. I may live with it one day. As

for

> now I am kind of happy to put floss aside for a while because I was

> using far too much of it in recent years.

>

> By the way, tooth is still loose and the left side either envied

the

> right or decided to have had enough of me chewing on it all the

time

> because as of this morning it hurts like hell. If a banana is not

> managable then what is??! So I live on food broken into pieces in a

> sort of blender. But despite the difficulty of eating I heroically

> do it because I need to gain weight. (I am naturally thin, only

> 48kgs some 106lbs for 168 cm which is somewhere around 5ft5).

>

> Best,

> Karola

>