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I have real arthritic probs and especially in the sternum now where I was

divided for open heart,,it is very confusing and worriesome because even

with reassurance of treadmills, etc., it is always lurking in the back of my

brain about where the discomfort is coming from. So, guess that I am one of

the lucky ones my cardio guy describes as gonna have some long term

difficulties there. He wants me not to lift a feather, but life is not

worth it on those terms and I will choose to hurt I guess.

On Mobic - my rheumatoligist took me off Bextra which I tolerated very well

long term,,,well six months,,,and yes I knew but decided it was worth the

try for me to retain mobility in the hip as well as the chest stuff,,,,,and

put me on Mobic. That lasted a good seven days before I had gastric

distress and ceased. He told me to do that at the slightest prob and I did.

Now, I am on nothing, and just deal with it. Point is that he told me Mobic

was an older drug but very effective in certain patients and was 50 times

more cautious about Mobic than a -2. I am not sure but I thought there

were only a couple of drugs in the -2 class approved by the FDA, with

Bextra being the latest. But whatta I know?

Dan Slone

Surgery 5/2/2000,Yahoo Msg navwriter

AIM Navwriter58, ICQ 260890468

Re:

Ya might want to add Mobic to that list. It's newer than Bextra, I do

believe. Just another of the 2's.

Regards~

Jacque

> OK, found the medication list, courtesy of Michele (with one L):

>

> DRUGS THAT CAN DAMAGE THE POUCH

> Advil.............

> Aleve............

> Amigesic............

> Anacin............

> Anaprox................. Ansald................

> Anthra-G.............. Arthropan.............

> Ascriptin.............. Aspirin................

> Asproject............... Azolid............... Bextra ................

> Bufferin............

> Butazolidin...........

> Celebrex........... Clinorial................

> Darvon compounds................. Disalcid.................

> Dolobid............... Erythromycin............

> Equagesic................ Feldene..............

> Fiorinal.............. Ibuprofin.............. Indocin...............

> Ketoprofen.............. Lodine................

> Meclomen...............

> Midol..............

> Motrin................. Nalfon...............

> Naprosyn.............

> Nayer...............

> Orudis................

> Oruval..............

> Pamprin-IB............... Percodan..............

> Ponstel................... Rexolate..............

> Tandearil............. Tetracycline..........

> Tolecin.............

> Uracel............

> Vioxx........

> Voltaren............

>

> ALL " NSAIDS " (*see below for the 2 Inhibitors)

>

>

>

> DRUGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED SAFE..........

>

> Bendaryl...................

> Tylenol ..............

> Dimetap..............

> Robitussin..........

> Safetussin............

> Sudafed..........

> Triaminics (All).........

> Tylenol (cold products).......

> Tylenol Ex Strength..........

> Gas-X ..........

> Phazyme...........

> Imodium Ad..........

> Colace.......

> Dulcolax-Suppositories.........

> Fleet Enema..........

> Glycerin-Suppositories..........

> Milk of Magnesia.........

> Peri-Colace...........

>

> * copied with permission:

> Bextra is the newest, next generation of NSAIDS. It is simply an

> anti-inflammatory with no compound to aid in the protection of our

> GI systems.

>

> I want to help everyone understand the reason NSAIDS are dangerous

> for us. Contrary to popular belief, it is not just that they

> are " pouch burners " as the industry wants us to believe. It goes

> much deeper than that. According to an article published in the June

> 1999 New England Journal of Medicine, NSAIDS, once absorbed into the

> blood stream cause a chain of chemical reactions that affect the

> prostaglandins and this in turn reduces the production of mucus in

> the GI system. The mucus is what lines our GI system and protects our

> pouch and intestines from damage.

>

> If the mucus production is reduced, this would allow ANYTHING,

> including eating something with too sharp of an edge or foods that

> are extremely spicy, to inadvertently begin a marginal ulcer. The

> best answer is to avoid NSAIDS at all cost. Taking an H2 receptor

> drug such as Prilosec, Prevacid or Nexium is only a band-aid and no

> guarantee that it will protect you.

>

> If you are desperate to try an NSAID, my recommendation would be

> Arthrotec. It is an NSAID with a prostaglandin compound in it that

> tries to prevent the chemical chain of events I was speaking of in

> the above paragraph. There are still no guarantees. You are at risk

> for marginal ulcers any time you take an anti-inflammatory

> medication.

>

> Ultram is a mild narcotic and can be habit forming, so I would not

> recommend more than a six week course of it at any one time.

>

> Michele (with one L)

>

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