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He everyone!

I just wanted to make my first post. I had Lap RNY 7/2/02 with Dr.

Ferrari in Houston, Texas and have lost 132lbs. (still have 58 more lbs.

to go to goal and not sure if I will get there).

I have been lurking for about a month and am appreciating all of the

advice and recipes (caramel popcorn?!?! YUM!).

I have not seen a post on this and wanted to know your opinion. I have

been reading lately about Serotonin and its affect regarding eating

disorders. I am positive I have an eating disorder (binge

eating-emotional eating) and I have depression which I am taking Celexa

for (but not consistently). I am also a carb addict. I was reading

that there are receptors in the brain that pick up Serotonin and when

they don't, your body triggers you to eat carbs. Apparently, the

breakdown of carbs causes insulin release which produces a substance

that causes the creation of Serotonin. Anyway, once the Serotonin is

released and caugt by the receptors, it makes you feel good (they called

it self-medicating).

I really believe I have this problem. I do feel better after I binge

on carbs. Of course, I emotionally feel awful after that because I know

I just ate a ton of calories. And, I believe it is sabotaging my weight

loss.

Has anyone else read anything about all of this?

Thanks for your help.

Danna B.:-)

Lap RNY 7/2/02

Dr. Ferrari

Houston, Texas

320/188/130

5' 3 "

-132lbs.

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In a message dated 7/7/2003 8:10:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tuesdynite@... writes:

> Sometimes the drug makes u feel good enuf

> that u don't bother watching what you eat. Be careful.

>

The you need to change drugs. Depression is an incomprehensible evil, that

must be dealt with.

Fay Bayuk

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<<The you need to change drugs. Depression is an incomprehensible evil,

that

must be dealt with.

Fay Bayuk>>

I have to echo this. And, I have to tell you what my very wise old

psychiatrist told me when he first started me on meds many years ago.

Anti-depressants should not make you feel elated. They should not make you

tired or sleepy. They should not do ANYTHING but take away the depression

and that feeling of impending doom, and make you fully functional as a human

being, with all your talents and flaws intact. Other than that, you should

not even feel like you are on any medication. You should feel normal

emotions. Happy when something warrants your happiness, sad when there is

something that should make you sad, anxious when there is a real reason to

be anxious. There should be no unseen monsters under the bed, in the closet,

or around the next corner. Not every anti-depressant or dosage will do that

for every person. WE have to work together to find out which one, and how

much, works best for YOU. I took 6 or 7 different ones, at different

dosages, before we found what helped me.

When I DON'T take them, when I think everything is okay, that I can handle

things, and I don't need them anymore, disaster strikes. I do stupid things

that are self-destructive. Once I wound up in a psych ward for attempting

suicide, and once in jail for DUI. ly, at the time, I didn't care about

either, because I didn't care about myself, and I didn't believe that it

mattered to anyone else either. And, BTW, just a gentle reminder...alcohol

is a severe depressant, and if you have any form of depression, it can be

deadly, and often is.

Jac

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I would have to agree with Jacque on this issue. I have been on various

anti-depressants. When I am on the right meds in the right doses I just feel

" normal " . Normal for me is not having highs or lows.

I have often described it as this. Depression is a stove with four pots boiling

over the top and I can't handle them. With the proper medication, my problems

don't go away. But I am able to simmer them on the back burner and use the

front burners at the same time. I don't know if this analogy makes any sense.

Several times I have thought that I really didn't need the anti-depressants and

took myself off of them because I felt okay. I talked myself into believing

that my depression was all a matter of will power. And for the first few weeks I

was fine, and then in about 2 or 3 weeks it hit me.

I think of my depression as similar to diabetes. There are things I can do to

help myself without medication but I am no longer ashamed of needing medication

to control it. (thanks to WLS however, I no longer need meds for the diabetes

but that's another story)

My doctor switched me from Celexa to Lexapro and told me that Lexapro is

associated with less incidence of weight gain as well. He also said that the

studies where these meds ARE associated with weight gain are usually referring

to people who were not eating because of the their depression.

B from NJ

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