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Sometimes it seems that Kaiser is a real pain in the butt, but they are big on education and I think those of us going thru Kaiser will be much better educated, and have better success because of that education. I am glad I have Kaiser for those reasons.pegmo1212 wrote: Kaiser has a wonderful success rate and I think this is one of the reasons. They teach us BEFORE the surgery what we need to know and the tools to us AFTER the surgery. I am 4 1/2 months port-op and still don't eat beef, lettuce or too many fresh veggies or fruits. I had

a friend that had the surgery at a private surgery center and they did the surgery and sent her on her way. No classes, almost no follow up and no support system. I don't need to tell you she wasn't very successful. Nope, I am thrilled I went through Kaiser. PEGGY > > I had seen the gastric bypass shows and I was wondering if anyone else > had the same reaction as I did. I was shocked that the woman was > eating lettuce and tomatoes and complaining that she couldn't keep > food down. I had seen a few shows in the past and the running theme > is that they wanted the surgery and got it. No classes no lifestyle > changes. While the people who had the surgery were in need of help it

> seemed that the after care was not there. The one man that was bed > bound was drinking soda! It was the only thing that he could keep > down. Is there different criteria for different surgeries? Is Kaiser > the only health plan that is requiring that you go to classes? > it does seem like a pain but I think in the end it is more helpful > that you have someone around to help with the life changes that you > have to do in order to lose and keep the weight off. > __________________________________________________

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PeggyI'm with you on this, I am so happy I went through Kaiser. Take care. Donnapegmo1212 wrote: Kaiser has a wonderful success rate and I think this is one of the reasons. They teach us BEFORE the surgery what we need to know and the tools to us AFTER the surgery. I am 4 1/2 months port-op and still don't eat beef, lettuce or too many fresh veggies or fruits. I had a friend that had the surgery at a private surgery center and they did the surgery and sent her on her way. No classes, almost no follow up and no

support system. I don't need to tell you she wasn't very successful. Nope, I am thrilled I went through Kaiser. PEGGY > > I had seen the gastric bypass shows and I was wondering if anyone else > had the same reaction as I did. I was shocked that the woman was > eating lettuce and tomatoes and complaining that she couldn't keep > food down. I had seen a few shows in the past and the running theme > is that they wanted the surgery and got it. No classes no lifestyle > changes. While the people who had the surgery were in need of help it > seemed that the after care was not there. The one man that was bed > bound was drinking soda! It was the only thing that he could keep

> down. Is there different criteria for different surgeries? Is Kaiser > the only health plan that is requiring that you go to classes? > it does seem like a pain but I think in the end it is more helpful > that you have someone around to help with the life changes that you > have to do in order to lose and keep the weight off. > Donna JordonDSJordon@... __________________________________________________

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