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Hi I am another ... Brozina from NJ.

I have read some of Geneen Roth's books. It has been a while though. I will

say that a lot of what she said certainly resonates within me. The book that

really touched me was Feeding the Hungry Heart ... As for some of the

emotional battles I go through she has me pegged right on.

I have not tried her way of eating mostly because I was frightened. I am

diabetic so I can't really sit down and eat 3 dozen chocolate chip

cookies(for example) because of what that would do to me. Yet in the back

of my head, I have always believed that Geneen's approach would work. I

have just been a real chicken about it.

Is there a way her attitude etc could be applied post Weigh Lost Surgery? I

would be curious to know your opinion.

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Hi ,

My personal and professional advice to you is simple. Devise a long

term plan of healthy eating/living that is planned and tailored to your

needs and your life style and stay with it religiously until it becomes

second nature.

Most complusive oveaters, especially those who become morbidly obese,

do not do well eating whatever they want, whenever they want...a la

Geneen Roth. She was both obese and anorexic in her life but never

morbidly obese as far as I know. Parts of her book Feeding the Hungry

heart are very poetic and insightful but I don't agree with her basic

" eat what you want when you are truly hungry etc. " philosophy for our

particular population. I especially disagree with that strategy for

Breaking Away From Compulsive Eating. If you think about some of the

other eating problems out there-like Anorexia and Bulimia, it begins to

hold a little more usefulness but not for Bariatric surgery patients.

I don't believe our hunger and satiety mechanisms work the same way as

so called 'normal' people anyway even though surgery improves this.

With the help of our surgery we don't need to diet restrictively

anymore (in my opinion again, ) but we do need to choose our food

carefully and be vigilent about our new habits. Using food as a coping

mechanism for many years makes most wls''ers highly prone to returning

to old 'unhealthy' habits in a variety of circumstances. We need to

innoculate ourselves against this tendency by PRACTICING healthy

routines and expanding our coping mechanisms. There is good

professional help available in some cities to assist with these things

and folks can do it on their own if they work hard at it, follow good

nutritional protocols, and get plenty of exercise. I'm prejudiced in

favor of very focused individual help early the process on a monthly

basis and lasting for the first two years post op,(see

www.myselfdesign.com) but I know that's a luxury many cannot afford or

access in the various places where surgery is offered.

Those who do not prepare well will play catch up in two or three years.

There aren't any short cuts and while the surgery gives us a terrific

boost we still have to do the work to make it last.

Snacking is a small but good example of the kind of 'work' I'm

describing. Problems have to be identified to find solutions and that

takes some careful self observation and insight. We all have lots of

little emotional and behavioral issues in our personal baggage.

You've already id'd snacking as one of yours and that's great because

in and of itself snacking is not a problem. Psychologically you may

want to look further at why you use food that way but more urgently you

need to make your snacking planned as part of your overall routine.

Things that are NOT planned and part of your routine are where the

problems arise. That's not to say you can't plan to be spontaneous at

times or try something Not THE BEST on a special occasion, but the

trick is the plan and having a way to compensate for the irregular

eating that doesn't involve starving yourself the next couple of days

etc. That's OLD THINK. Try hard not to go there any more because it's

a very slippery slope.

The most important thing about planning is that it puts you in charge

of your actions and reduces any tendency you may have to feel like you

are out of control or up against unmanageable odds. You aren't. You

can do it.

Good luck maintaining your fabulous loss.

Carol

Shrinkin' in Philly

> Hi all, I'm Hyde and I had lap RNY on 6/11/02. I've lost 130

> lbs. and am at goal. It's a lot harder know trying to maintain the

> weight loss. I allow myself a 5 lb spread from my goal weight and

> anytime I'm at the high end of the 5 lb. spread I start to freak.

> I'm a snacker, so therein lies my troubles.

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>> Has anyone here read any books by Geneen Roth? If so, what do you

>> think of her philosophy/way of life as far as food goes? Does

> anyone

>> here practice this way of approaching food?

>>

>> It makes alot of since to me to eat only when hungry and then eat

>> whatever it is you're hungry for. I've discussed her way of

> relating

>> to food with some of my thin co-workers. Although my co-workers

> were

>> not actually aware that this was what they were doing---they do say

>> they eat only when they're hungry and they eat whatever they're

>> hungry for---be it salad or snickers. They don't believe in good

>> foods or bad foods. All food is the same to them.

>>

>> Wouldn't this be a great and healthy way of dealing with food? I

>> wish I had whatever it is they have (self-discipline, better genes,

>> etc.) and could have a healthier relationship with food.

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