Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Hello, I am new to this site. One of your members, Dawn, sent me an email about the distal rny and explained the ds a little bit. I thought that since I have binged and have a tendency to eat a lot of sweets (usually PMS) that I should have the RNY. However, after reading some of the messages here, I am beginning to think I should have the DS. It seems that DSers can eat what ever, sweets don't seem to appeal as much as previously. (I think this can partially be attributed to eating the protein first. I have done the Zone, Carbohydrate Addicts, Schwartzbein Principal, etc. I do believe they are on the right track about the protein carbo relationship, but the info wasn't enough for my body and came to late for me.) Some of the official sites about the different types of surgery said the DS is a more severe surgery, but if your pyloris is kept intact, it seems to me it would be less severe, and if this didn't work one could always try the RNY. You couldn't say the same of the reverse. (going from RNY to DS.) Is there a web site that realistically compares the two? I am really leaning towards the DS and want to be sure. There are no surgeons that I know of in my area that perform the DS. Does anyone know of a surgeon in the South Central PA or Baltimore MD area who do the DS? Is there a web site to search for one? Dawn said she traveled 2 states away to see her surgeon. I am willing to travel if I have to, but as a single mom with kids and a new job, that isn't very realistic. But, as I said before, I want to make the right decision, with no regrets. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 Pam, I may be wrong on this, but I believe when they refer to DS being more severe than RNY, it is for the surgeon and not the patient. I know RNY is easier for the surgeon to do and takes less time. Surgeons can do about 3 or 4 RNYs in a day where more DS surgeons only do 1. I too love my sweets (pre-op) and would regularly have a pint of Ben and Jerrys as an appetizer before a meal. Now I am 8 weeks post-op and I find that just doesn't appeal to me. I have had some ice cream and sweets since surgery, but I find I have had enough after a couple of small bites. I don't know if I could face never being able to have sweets again like RNY people. Many surgeon offices will do a free consult, so you may find that helpful. They will also do a quick consult over the phone if you are out of the area. Kathy M. DS 7/19/01 Dr. Hares 213 pre-op 170 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 My surgeon did another DS after mine on 1/5/01. Typically he would do 2 opens on his surgery day. I think only one lap/day was his norm. in Seattle I know RNY is easier for the surgeon to do and takes less time. Surgeons can do about 3 or 4 RNYs in a day where more DS surgeons only do 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 The Roux-En-Y is claimed to be effective by punishing you with the " dumping syndrome " . If that is what you want, just ask your SO to punch you every time you touch sweet things - that would have the same effect, and at a much lower cost (well - bailing him out of jail might get expensive, so maybee another idea - how about an electronic monitor that gives you as shock everytime you touch sugar). ROFLMAO!!!! Chris- I shouldn't even be laughing at this, but lord! What an image! Thanks for the bizarre bit of giggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 Hi everyone, I live in Vancouver, BC. As I understand it, there are only wls in Saskatchewan and Quebec is it? and that the waiting lists go on forever. Is there any way of getting into see a doctor in Washington or somewhere else close like that? If so, can someone give the names of the surgeons in Washington? Thanx for your time, Dora Re: RNY vs DS > My surgeon did another DS after mine on 1/5/01. Typically he would > do 2 opens on his surgery day. I think only one lap/day was his norm. > > in Seattle > > > I know RNY is easier for the surgeon to do and takes less time. > Surgeons can do about 3 or 4 RNYs in a day where more DS surgeons > only do 1. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Dorra, You can get the full list of DS suregons at: http://www.duodenalswitch.com/ Unfortunately, there is only 1 DS surgeon in Washington, and he is in the south-east corner. There are a few DS suregons in Portland, Oregan. Hull > > I know RNY is easier for the surgeon to do and takes less time. > > Surgeons can do about 3 or 4 RNYs in a day where more DS surgeons > > only do 1. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 I don't understand why the insurance companies are not as quick to approve DS v. RNY. Why would people choose RNY over the DS procedure. Please enlighten me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 In a message dated 11/10/01 7:06:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, duodenalswitch writes: << Re: Original Message ----- My problem is, I am over 600 pounds and a die hard binge eater and food addict. I also have SEVERE obsessive- compulsive disorder......The bottom line for me is- would someone with my traits and personality type be better off with the freedom of the ds- or the negative reinforcements and restrictions of the roux en y ( which I would get distal ) >> Honey - honey - honey :-) smiling - we all *love* the DS here, so we think it is the very best surgery. You love proteins and fats, which you can eat after DS. You love carbs (not necc sweets) which you will cut down on after DS, but you can still have some. With DS, your stomach will be smaller so you cannot eat as much. If you really want to understand the differences, go into the archives and type in search enging DS vsRNY and you can see several posts about the differences. With RNY, you do not have a functioning stomach, you have a pouch and a stomah. You need to chew your food to a pulp, (or risk getting the stomach plugged) eat only about 1 tablespoon of food at a time, and no water with meals. I personally think that lifestyle would be much harder for a binge eater to learn to adapt to than a DS lifestyle. And with RNY you might lose 50% excess weight (with DS it is more like 75-80%, permanently) with RNY, you can gain back what you have lost. Now, as far as surgeons go, make sure you go to a surgeon who is used to working on high BMI patients, such as yourself. I am thinking of Dr. Hess in Bowling Green, OH, Dr. Anthone in LA, CA...........and others on this list can give you additional names. You need to be sure you go to a surgeon with lots of experience with higher BMIs so you have less complications or they know how to handle them. DS is the best, I am sure you will agree after reading the archives etc. Good Luck on your journey. Carole Pre-op Dr. Hess 12/18/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 In my travels I have come across this site... it gives a comparison to the VBG, RNY, and the DS... the DS is the superior surgery! http://www.gr-ds.com/Comparison_Table.htm > In a message dated 11/10/01 7:06:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, > duodenalswitch@y... writes: > > << Re: Original Message ----- From: <overholt2002@y...> > My problem is, I am over 600 pounds and a die hard binge eater and food > addict. I also have SEVERE obsessive- compulsive disorder......The bottom > line for me is- would someone with my traits and personality type be better > off with the freedom of the ds- or the negative reinforcements and > restrictions of the roux en y ( which I would get distal ) > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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