Re: So the s are in hand...

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I used a screwdriver (but with a pointy end rather than the straight

or philips head). Someone else on here used a nail and pounded a

hole into the strap.

> And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too bright!!

lol Or both...

>

> I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

without the heel pulling WAY

> up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and

the shoe bottom and feel him lift

> his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe strap

since it's well past the last

> hole to be snug on his toesies.

>

> I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I just

can't seem to get it right.

>

> Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

>

> Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's feet

are probably more human-

> like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the s?

>

> Help!! :-)

>

> Stacee

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[Guest guest]

this is normal for a newly corrected foot with these shoes. The heel

will drop eventually.

HOWEVER... I have found that as opposed to the Markells, I do

exactly opposite to get her heel deep in the back. I actually point

her foot a bit and lie it into the shoe. Then I pull the tongue very

tightly across the foot, so that it's totally straight against where

it attaches to the side (no bunching/buckling) and hold it there. I

then do the middle strap and let her foot relax while tightening. If

it's too loose or the tongue bunches do again and/or smooth. It's a

trick because the straps are coming from the totally wrong side of

the shoes IMO. They should cinch with the tongue, not against

it... And at first they do bunch a lot till they get worn in a little.

But this above is how I get Darbi's heels down there and even

remarked at how she was seated in there nicely when I sent the pics

about the heel counter last summer. So it's worth a try. I did this

with Christee's daughter when she was in these shoes and it did seem

to work pretty well even though Lilee was at that time still not

fully corrected (about 3mo old). Didn't go *all* the way in/down,

but it did seem to allow the shoe to fit nice and tight into the back

at least. Lilee has VERY chubby calves but all the little ones have

these sweet little chubby ankles and calves so I can see how it'd be

a little tricky with the little ones on this. Just make sure the

middle strap is the tight one, second is the ankle and toes actually

the one that doesn't need to be super duper tight. Just tight lol.

A little heel rising in these shoes at first is ok though. You will

see the heel drop and form over the next year or so and this is as it

should be.

Oh, they also stretch pretty quickly and those holes will also

stretch out. Just watch it and don't make the extra hole too close

to the other one or they'll blend eventually.

Kori

At 02:01 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote:

>And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too bright!! lol

>Or both...

>

>I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

>without the heel pulling WAY

>up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and the

>shoe bottom and feel him lift

>his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe strap

>since it's well past the last

>hole to be snug on his toesies.

>

>I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I just

>can't seem to get it right.

>

>Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

>

>Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's feet

>are probably more human-

>like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the s?

>

>Help!! :-)

>

>Stacee

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, for some reason I thought it's a week. Thanks for clearing it

up. At least this way I won't get paranoid on day 7

> > >

> > > And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too bright!!

> >lol Or both...

> > >

> > > I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

> >without the heel pulling WAY

> > > up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and

> >the shoe bottom and feel him lift

> > > his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe

strap

> >since it's well past the last

> > > hole to be snug on his toesies.

> > >

> > > I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I

just

> >can't seem to get it right.

> > >

> > > Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

> > >

> > > Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's

feet

> >are probably more human-

> > > like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the

s?

> > >

> > > Help!! :-)

> > >

> > > Stacee

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

So I guess my question now is: how much leeway do I have? How far up can the

heel be

while still being placed properly? I obviously don't want to cause detriment to

what we've

achieved, and if need be, I could drive to Iowa to be sure, but I (selfishly)

don't want to

make that trip just to hear " Oh, yeah, that's just right " or something along

those lines, ya

know? I suppose it would be worth hearing, though!!

It seems like 's heel is anywhere from 1/4 " -1/2 " up from the base of the

heel

(elevated off the bottom/sole of the shoe) and this seems like too much.

Further opinions would be helpful!!

Stacee

> >And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too bright!! lol

> >Or both...

> >

> >I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

> >without the heel pulling WAY

> >up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and the

> >shoe bottom and feel him lift

> >his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe strap

> >since it's well past the last

> >hole to be snug on his toesies.

> >

> >I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I just

> >can't seem to get it right.

> >

> >Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

> >

> >Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's feet

> >are probably more human-

> >like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the s?

> >

> >Help!! :-)

> >

> >Stacee

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Marcus's feet are about the same. I don't think it's

any cause for concern.

> > >And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too

bright!! lol

> > >Or both...

> > >

> > >I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

> > >without the heel pulling WAY

> > >up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and

the

> > >shoe bottom and feel him lift

> > >his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe

strap

> > >since it's well past the last

> > >hole to be snug on his toesies.

> > >

> > >I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I

just

> > >can't seem to get it right.

> > >

> > >Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

> > >

> > >Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's

feet

> > >are probably more human-

> > >like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the

s?

> > >

> > >Help!! :-)

> > >

> > >Stacee

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My son Elliot is about halfway through the full-time wear in the 's, and

we had the

same issue. His heel is lower now than it was when we started, but it still

doesn't sit

completely flat in the back. However, his foot looks terrific, and our doctor

(Dr. Scher in

Manhattan) is thrilled with the way everything is going, and we're on schedule

to reduce

the hours the first week of February. I found that using a sock that fit

tightly on his foot

helped a lot. We initially tried Old Navy ones but those always seemed a little

loose -

when we switched brands it made it a lot easier to get the foot further back.

We've been

using these thick bootie socks from Children's Place and they work great. Since

they're

tighter, I fold the top of the sock down over the boot to keep his ankle from

getting that

red elastic mark.

Best of luck - we love the s and haven't had a sinlge problem with them.

> > > >And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too

> bright!! lol

> > > >Or both...

> > > >

> > > >I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

> > > >without the heel pulling WAY

> > > >up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and

> the

> > > >shoe bottom and feel him lift

> > > >his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe

> strap

> > > >since it's well past the last

> > > >hole to be snug on his toesies.

> > > >

> > > >I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I

> just

> > > >can't seem to get it right.

> > > >

> > > >Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

> > > >

> > > >Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's

> feet

> > > >are probably more human-

> > > >like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the

> s?

> > > >

> > > >Help!! :-)

> > > >

> > > >Stacee

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! I'm surprised to hear that thicker socks make it easier... I

would have

thought that thinner ones would make it easier to squeeze the little fatty foot

in. :-)

Funny you should say Old Navy, because that's exactly what we've been wearing

since

getting into the brace.

Congrats on getting closer to lessening the hours! For whatever reason, Dr

Ponseti only

has in for 20/7 which seems low to me, but I trust his judgment. I

actually have a

hard time giving him the whole time out of the brace because he doesn't stay

awake long

enough!! lol It works well because he tolerates the brace quite well and I get

to satisfy my

paranoia, kwim?!?

Thanks again for the reassurance... We plan on trying to get the positioning

right

tomorrow when he's a little more tolerant of our attempts.

Stacee

> > > > >And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too

> > bright!! lol

> > > > >Or both...

> > > > >

> > > > >I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes

> > > > >without the heel pulling WAY

> > > > >up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and

> > the

> > > > >shoe bottom and feel him lift

> > > > >his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe

> > strap

> > > > >since it's well past the last

> > > > >hole to be snug on his toesies.

> > > > >

> > > > >I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I

> > just

> > > > >can't seem to get it right.

> > > > >

> > > > >Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

> > > > >

> > > > >Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's

> > feet

> > > > >are probably more human-

> > > > >like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the

> > s?

> > > > >

> > > > >Help!! :-)

> > > > >

> > > > >Stacee

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Well, we just waited until today when was more agreeable to try the

s

again, and viola! I did what you said, Kori, and pointed the toes upward and

the heels are

actually quite far down in both shoes (both club and non) so I'm happy!!

is

tolerating them quite well, as we had hoped. I have to admit that the swedish

version are

much easier to put on a squirmy infant, though!! I just have no idea how you'd

be able to

keep them on an older child since they're only held on via velcro... Kids are

inventive and I

can't imagine any child older than 6-9 months would NOT figure out how to take

them off!

But for the beginning--getting used to using a brace-- it was a WONDERFUL entry

into the

brace-wearing phase of our lives!

Thanks, again, soooooo much for everyone's help and advice! I have no idea

where we'd

be without this board!

Have a great holiday weekend!

Stacee and 9/24/05 rcf, PM 20/7

>

> I remember when Evy got his first pair (about 2 months old), there is that

ventilation

hole on each side of the heel and I could put a pencil in one hole and out the

other - there

was that much extra room. They really didn't seem to fit at all, but it

wasn't long until it

all came together.

>

> I dunno what else to say except bend his knee as you put the shoe on him and

then

buckle that center strap first, as tight as it'll go. Maybe trim the tongue so

there's no

excess material getting in the way of holding it all snug.

> s.

>

> So the s are in hand...

>

>

> And apparently there's a learning curve or I'm not too bright!! lol Or

both...

>

> I can't seem to get 's chubby little feet into the shoes without the

heel pulling

WAY

> up. I can actually stick my little finger between his heel and the shoe

bottom and feel

him lift

> his heel up. I know I will need to punch a hole in the toe strap since it's

well past the

last

> hole to be snug on his toesies.

>

> I called and he explained a little of what to do, but I just can't seem

to get it right.

>

> Kori--any suggestions since you've been in them a while now?

>

> Anyone else out there with chubby little feet (since Darbi's feet are

probably more

human-

> like!! lol) that knows the tricks of the trade with the s?

>

> Help!! :-)

>

> Stacee

>

>

>

>

>

>

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