Chewing tobacco as an immunosuppressant

[Guest guest]

Wow-- that is interesting. So, if we chew tobacco-- then we'd not need the other stuff, pred, BRM's, Dmards-- but then, we'd be worried about the tongue and gum cancers-- and after having 2 bro-in laws have hunks of both carved out from chew--

I'd bet we'll all still die anyway.

And Greg-- I'm proud of you that between quitting the snuff, and starting the pred-- that as you said-- there is no dead bodies around -- I'm not sure I could have done it! LOL!

It's nuts-- I know that the pred was what makes me wanna go out and "touch someone." Maybe now, I'll just carry my Flying Pig everywhere I go-- and instead of giving people a salute of sorts (see the Beverly Hillbillies movie if you are confused-- I do live in California) I'll just smack em with my pig!

Oh, and Rose-- you can come over in those leopard skin things, and fit right in-- of course, you'll need your ice brassiere wrapped around your head to make it complete.

Oh my, it must be bed time....

What can I say- I'm on overload

Tracie

NS Co-owner and crazy woman tonight.

[Guest guest]

I couldn't help it guys, I just had to look up chewing tobacco and immunosuppression-- and yep, it can be a cause of lowered immune system function. Betel juice chew-- a type of plant that is used as a "snuff" in some tribal societies-- can also suppress the immune sytstem, and is also a cause of oral cancer.

Ahh, the things we can learn-- but do not take this as a recommendation to chew -- tobacco or betel-- or anything else nasty.

Again,

Tracie on the edge.....

Subject: Chewing tobacco as an immunosuppressantTo: neurosarcoidosis Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:15 AM

Wow-- that is interesting. So, if we chew tobacco-- then we'd not need the other stuff, pred, BRM's, Dmards-- but then, we'd be worried about the tongue and gum cancers-- and after having 2 bro-in laws have hunks of both carved out from chew--

I'd bet we'll all still die anyway.

And Greg-- I'm proud of you that between quitting the snuff, and starting the pred-- that as you said-- there is no dead bodies around -- I'm not sure I could have done it! LOL!

It's nuts-- I know that the pred was what makes me wanna go out and "touch someone." Maybe now, I'll just carry my Flying Pig everywhere I go-- and instead of giving people a salute of sorts (see the Beverly Hillbillies movie if you are confused-- I do live in California) I'll just smack em with my pig!

Oh, and Rose-- you can come over in those leopard skin things, and fit right in-- of course, you'll need your ice brassiere wrapped around your head to make it complete.

Oh my, it must be bed time....

What can I say- I'm on overload

Tracie

NS Co-owner and crazy woman tonight.

[Guest guest]

They weren't toting it as a cure...just as an explanation what had happened to the patient. The patient was doing it to lose weight for wrestling.. I guess it supressed his appetite, too. And I do know those wrestlers do a lot of weird stuff to keep their weight in line. I had brothers and nephews who did wrestling. House is all about the odd cases...the cases nobody else can cure....the mysteries. Years ago they had me on three types of inhalers...one with steroids. When I stopped taking them is when my sarcoid wents nuts. I believe the steroids in one of the inhalers was keeping it somewhat in check and when I stopped taking all of them...my lungs reacted and that's when they found the sarcoid. I do believe they also have researchers for most of these medical shows...looking up the weird stuff

and double-checking their sources or they'd have all kinds of people calling their bluff. 29:11, For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. "If anyone would come after Me, he must deny himself" ( 16:24 NIV)."No one whose hope is in You will ever be put to shame….Show me

Yourways, O LORD, teach me Your paths; guide me in Your truth and teachme, for You are God my Savior, and My hope is in You all day long."Psalm 25:3,4,5 NIV

From: tracie feldhaus <tiodaat2001@ yahoo.com>Subject: Chewing tobacco as an immunosuppressantTo: neurosarcoidosis@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:15 AM

Wow-- that is interesting. So, if we chew tobacco-- then we'd not need the other stuff, pred, BRM's, Dmards-- but then, we'd be worried about the tongue and gum cancers-- and after having 2 bro-in laws have hunks of both carved out from chew--

I'd bet we'll all still die anyway.

And Greg-- I'm proud of you that between quitting the snuff, and starting the pred-- that as you said-- there is no dead bodies around -- I'm not sure I could have done it! LOL!

It's nuts-- I know that the pred was what makes me wanna go out and "touch someone." Maybe now, I'll just carry my Flying Pig everywhere I go-- and instead of giving people a salute of sorts (see the Beverly Hillbillies movie if you are confused-- I do live in California) I'll just smack em with my pig!

Oh, and Rose-- you can come over in those leopard skin things, and fit right in-- of course, you'll need your ice brassiere wrapped around your head to make it complete.

Oh my, it must be bed time....

What can I say- I'm on overload

Tracie

NS Co-owner and crazy woman tonight.

[Guest guest]

I faced the same choice. The insurance would only pay half at certain dentists and they were twice as high so I opted for pull them out! Dentures aren't that bad especially if you are already used to partials plates, like I was. I have even gotten adjusted to my lower plate and can eat peanuts again! But everyone is different and this is just what I decided and how it worked out for me. I am also too stubborn to pay that much for a set of choppers and not endure some discomfort to get used to them. Shoot, it's nothing compared to our sarc pain!Join our Sock Challenge for Orphans in Kazakhstan http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Mittens_ for_Akkol/

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From: tracie feldhaus <tiodaat2001@ yahoo.com>Subject: Chewing tobacco as an immunosuppressantTo: neurosarcoidosis@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 1:15 AM

Wow-- that is interesting. So, if we chew tobacco-- then we'd not need the other stuff, pred, BRM's, Dmards-- but then, we'd be worried about the tongue and gum cancers-- and after having 2 bro-in laws have hunks of both carved out from chew--

I'd bet we'll all still die anyway.

And Greg-- I'm proud of you that between quitting the snuff, and starting the pred-- that as you said-- there is no dead bodies around -- I'm not sure I could have done it! LOL!

It's nuts-- I know that the pred was what makes me wanna go out and "touch someone." Maybe now, I'll just carry my Flying Pig everywhere I go-- and instead of giving people a salute of sorts (see the Beverly Hillbillies movie if you are confused-- I do live in California) I'll just smack em with my pig!

Oh, and Rose-- you can come over in those leopard skin things, and fit right in-- of course, you'll need your ice brassiere wrapped around your head to make it complete.

Oh my, it must be bed time....

What can I say- I'm on overload

Tracie

NS Co-owner and crazy woman tonight.