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In a message dated 7/29/2003 2:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time,

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> So, the responsibility falls back on me. I MUST diet to lose or

> maintain. I must stay away from my cycle/binge foods, I must take my

> supplements and each meal must have a beginning and an end, I must

> drink enough water and eat protein first. I must not drink with

> meals and I MUST (GASP)EXERCISE daily for 40-50 minutes.

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I'm not unwilling to do that. But I'd like to have the opportunity to GET

there in the first place. Nothing I do gets me there.

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I don't know about anyone else but I was clinically depressed far before

I became obese. The sad thing is that I gained 150 to 200 lbs after

beginning 2 different medications for depression. Now you want to talk

about depressing. Sometimes I wonder if the two go hand in hand. I have

worked in the Mental Health field before and realize though that not all

depressed people are overweight and not all overweight people are

depressed.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:26:50 -0000 " watnext2001 "

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> When I first started actively researching WLS, I was amazed at the

> number of people on depression meds. I still believe theses meds

> are

> dispersed far to easily, which leads to my question...Are we fat

> because we're depressed or are we depressed because we're fat?

>

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> > Absolutely, . Years ago my Doc was at a meeting where a Doc

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> was proving with charts that depression caused arthritis. The

> charts

> showed the high percentage of arthritis suffers who are depressed.

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> Another doc stood and said yes, people with arthritis GET

> depressed.

> >

> > Fay Bayuk

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Add ARROGANCE to that, please

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Re: worry free

> Didn't I hear that there's a new governmental committee being

> established to fight obesity? I would like to invite them all to

> monitor this list. I think they would learn more about this disease

> here than anywhere else. But, they'd first have to ignore everything

> they've been taught, and approach this disease with an open mind,

> eliminating prior prejudices, practices and preconceived notions.

> Sadly, most of the medical community suffers from a huge dose of

> ignorance.

>

> in NJ

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> > You know guys, this thread is extremely interesting to me.....

> >

> > I think that we can glean something really valuable from it. From

> a medical standpoint, we all are saying something that bears

> investigating...

> >

> > It seems that all of us in early childhood had a broken switch. We

> did not know when to stop eating. We searched for the " full "

> feeling. Early on, we ate from head hunger but not for the reasons

> that " normal people " eat. Shame and guilt were constant companions

> and we all had knowledge of how to ear healthy. I find it ironic

> that this broken switch was not fixed until wls.

>

> > Also, to throw another factor into the pot, how many of us pre-wls,

> have gone to the doctor with a valid medical complaint that needed

> investigating only to be told if we just " lose some weight "

> everything would be fine? I know that I have. The fact that I

> needed to lose weight was true and very obvious. The other medical

> conditions, unless they were major co-morbs, were for the most part,

> ignored or dismissed.

> >

> > I gained a sense of self respect with the weight loss. I also

> began to demand that other medical complaints be taken seriously.

> Something I could not do before. I take more responsibility for my

> health and have learned that there are issues that have to do with

> the mechanics of my body and I cannot be blamed for them. I feel

> that it is imperative for the medical community to look at the

> evidence. More than one person on this list alone, is demonstrating

> the same disorders, the same symptoms. What is this saying? How can

> we alert others? What do we need to investigate and document for

> future potential wls patients? The re-training the brain needs

> > go farther than just wls patients. What is it that is being

> overlooked?

> >

> > Just my thoughts!

> > Carol

> > Richmond, VA

> > Open RNY 10/31/97

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