Guest guest Posted July 29, 2003 Report Share Posted July 29, 2003 In a message dated 7/29/2003 2:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, vt_rita@... writes: > So, the responsibility falls back on me. I MUST diet to lose or > maintain. I must stay away from my cycle/binge foods, I must take my > supplements and each meal must have a beginning and an end, I must > drink enough water and eat protein first. I must not drink with > meals and I MUST (GASP)EXERCISE daily for 40-50 minutes. > ----------------------------------------- I'm not unwilling to do that. But I'd like to have the opportunity to GET there in the first place. Nothing I do gets me there. Carol A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 I don't know about anyone else but I was clinically depressed far before I became obese. The sad thing is that I gained 150 to 200 lbs after beginning 2 different medications for depression. Now you want to talk about depressing. Sometimes I wonder if the two go hand in hand. I have worked in the Mental Health field before and realize though that not all depressed people are overweight and not all overweight people are depressed. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:26:50 -0000 " watnext2001 " writes: > When I first started actively researching WLS, I was amazed at the > number of people on depression meds. I still believe theses meds > are > dispersed far to easily, which leads to my question...Are we fat > because we're depressed or are we depressed because we're fat? > > in NJ > *********************** > > > > Absolutely, . Years ago my Doc was at a meeting where a Doc > > was proving with charts that depression caused arthritis. The > charts > showed the high percentage of arthritis suffers who are depressed. > > Another doc stood and said yes, people with arthritis GET > depressed. > > > > Fay Bayuk > > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Add ARROGANCE to that, please Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Re: worry free > Didn't I hear that there's a new governmental committee being > established to fight obesity? I would like to invite them all to > monitor this list. I think they would learn more about this disease > here than anywhere else. But, they'd first have to ignore everything > they've been taught, and approach this disease with an open mind, > eliminating prior prejudices, practices and preconceived notions. > Sadly, most of the medical community suffers from a huge dose of > ignorance. > > in NJ > ************************ > > > > You know guys, this thread is extremely interesting to me..... > > > > I think that we can glean something really valuable from it. From > a medical standpoint, we all are saying something that bears > investigating... > > > > It seems that all of us in early childhood had a broken switch. We > did not know when to stop eating. We searched for the " full " > feeling. Early on, we ate from head hunger but not for the reasons > that " normal people " eat. Shame and guilt were constant companions > and we all had knowledge of how to ear healthy. I find it ironic > that this broken switch was not fixed until wls. > > > Also, to throw another factor into the pot, how many of us pre-wls, > have gone to the doctor with a valid medical complaint that needed > investigating only to be told if we just " lose some weight " > everything would be fine? I know that I have. The fact that I > needed to lose weight was true and very obvious. The other medical > conditions, unless they were major co-morbs, were for the most part, > ignored or dismissed. > > > > I gained a sense of self respect with the weight loss. I also > began to demand that other medical complaints be taken seriously. > Something I could not do before. I take more responsibility for my > health and have learned that there are issues that have to do with > the mechanics of my body and I cannot be blamed for them. I feel > that it is imperative for the medical community to look at the > evidence. More than one person on this list alone, is demonstrating > the same disorders, the same symptoms. What is this saying? How can > we alert others? What do we need to investigate and document for > future potential wls patients? The re-training the brain needs > > go farther than just wls patients. What is it that is being > overlooked? > > > > Just my thoughts! > > Carol > > Richmond, VA > > Open RNY 10/31/97 > > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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