Re: Re: On the genesis of scientific thinking that fats are bad for you

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I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!!But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil, eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

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Hi,

I am new to this site and new to SCD as a result of our 15 year old son

who has ulceratus colitis. We have been following the SCD diet for about

2 months, so we are real new:-) Fortunately we have always followed a

whole foods diet, low in sugar and refined carbs. So, going without the

wheat, gluten, grains and milk (other than the SCD yogurt), hasn't been

tooooo bad;-) My sons miss bread and oatmeal:-) Yes, the whole family is

following the SCD way of life. Makes it easier on me and my 15 yr old:-)

He is a boy scout though and one weekend campout I made all his food.

The Summer should prove more challenging!

Oh, and about fat...there is fat and there is fat:-) Healthy fats (of

which the SCD is full of) are not going to load your body down with fat

and unwanted weight unless you over do it and sit around all the time;-)

I and my husband are thin and have for at least 20 years eaten a diet

high in healthy fats.....coconut oil, olive oil, ghee, eggs, meat, whole

milk. We have included in our diet carbs from whole grains and that is

where any extra weight came from. In fact, when we started this diet

high in fat......broth, meat, the SCD cheesecake, whole milk SCD yogurt,

we each lost some weight and have kept it off. Some of us may start

adding some grains back into our diet as time foes on, but it will be in

moderation and the Nourishing Traditions way. I hope we never have a

potato again though.....I am loving the squash so much more:-) Yes, the

kitchen and I have become close friends;-) Oh, when I had my yearly

check up my cholesterol levels were very good.

Therese

doing SCD for our son!!

Who looks forward to the day when he can have homemade ice cream again:-)

Alyssa Luck wrote:

>> I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I

>> challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries,

>> etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice

>> dreaming!!

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> But in the case of your high fat diet example, the issue would be all

> the OTHER junk that's in the burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. Not just

> the presence of fat. I bet someone could eat a diet that's very high

> in good quality fats, like butter, good quality meat, coconut oil,

> eggs, etc.. and still stay thin and healthy.

>

> Peace =)

> Alyssa 16 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per day

> Prednisone 35 mg 1x per day

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In fact, she wrote A+ on my very extensive lab results. :)Yay for good grades ! =D Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

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At 07:04 PM 3/12/2010, you wrote:

I'm not disputing the fact that

carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet

(burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay

thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!!

That's my husband.

33 " waist.

33 " inseam.

Weighs the same thing he did when we were married almost 34 years ago,

ie, about 160 pounds.

Cholesterol and blood pressure normal.

He eats mostly SCD -- and we have quite a bit of cheese and eggs and red

meat. When we eat out, he gets his burgers with buns, and fries or onion

strings. He has ice cream, too, when we eat out.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Jill,"but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream,

fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy!

Nice dreaming!!"Maybe I misunderstood your point, but all the high fat examples you gave were in combination with high carbs at the same time. You would need to remove the starch, sugar, and wheat carbs out of that example and just eat the meat and cream to see the point that should be made. And, yes, those types of natural fats would help to keep you thin and healthy.AmeliaTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 1:04:25

AMSubject: Re: On the genesis of scientific thinking that fats are bad for you

I'm not disputing the fact that carbs may cause carbs, but I challenge anyone to eat a high fat diet (burgers, ice cream, fries, etc. etc.) and claim that they can still stay thin and healthy! Nice dreaming!!

Everything in moderation, folks...

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> > Then again, none of us should go crazy eating saturated fats, if nothing

> > more than the simple reason that high fat diets can lead to obesity,

> > which in turn can cause health and heart issues.

> >

> No, saturated fats don't lead to obesity; carbs do (though a small recent

> study preliminarily indicates that some people may have a gene that causes

> them to utilize fats differently) . The saturate-fat- is-bad-for- you thing

> has been a big part of the fallacious argument used to link heart disease

> and saturated fat -- and the multi-billion dollar low-fat craze

> (especially in dairy products). We need the amino acids and other

> nutrition in saturated fats.

> I'll recommend again the books Good Calories, Bad Calories and Life

> Without Bread, both of which explain who the body makes energy and why we

> needs saturated fats but why we don't need to eat carbs (the body makes

> the carbs it needs from fats and proteins, but can't make protiens and

> fats unless you eat them). Good Calories, Bad Calories, particularly, very

> carefully traces the history of the studies that came to link saturated

> fats to obesity and heart diesease, and shows clearly how essentially one

> doctor/reasearcher (yes, one person was initially behind this), who had

> preconconcieved notions about what the outcomes should be, and had the

> clout to steer the results, decade after decade to match his

> preconceptions.

>

> n

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> >> Heart disease - on the genesis of thinking that fats are bad for you

> >>

> >> http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 35058896/ ns/health- heart_health/ /

> >>

> >> "It is now acknowledged that the original studies purporting to show a

> >> >linear relation between cholesterol intake and coronary heart disease

> >> >may have contained fundamental study design flaws," wrote the author

> >> >of a recent review in the International Journal of Clinical Practice.

> >>

> >> Mara

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