Re: How much should you tell? [Vhurgo ]

[Guest guest]

I was speaking figuratively when I spoke about making exceptions if

Angelina Jolie was in braces... regardless I've found my " Angelina

Jolie. "

By the way, I have bad news about Tom Cruise: he's gay. It's the

best kept secret in Hollywood.

For some reason I'm reluctant to post before pictures since I look

better now. I should be clear that it was the orthodontics that

improved my appearance, NOT the surgery. In fact, I'd say the

surgery made my face look longer, which, in my opinion, is not

desirable!

I would not recommend surgery to anyone that is doing it solely for

cosmetic reasons. The surgery, in my opinion, will NOT improve

someone's appearance, unless they have an extreme case. In fact, I'd

say that the surgery will diminish looks… this surgery only fixes

the bite – the resulting face may not be desirable...

The only reason my looks improved from the braces was because both

my upper and lower palette were very narrow – braces widened them

out...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a personal question to ask related to this

entire

> > > > > process.

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > will be getting my braces on in a month or so and then

> > > > eventually

> > > > > > > having upper and lower surgery to correct an

underbite.

> I

> > > was

> > > > > > hoping

> > > > > > > to already have the braces on, but had to delay it a

> little

> > > > bit

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to needing dental work first.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here's where my question comes in...I just recently

> started

> > > > > dating

> > > > > > > someone I was set up with. We don't know each other

very

> > > well

> > > > > > yet,

> > > > > > > but so far we have hit it off and have a lot in

common.

> > > > Because

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > have not known each other very long, I have not told

him

> > > > anything

> > > > > > > about the braces/surgery. I am actually a little

nervous

> > > > about

> > > > > > > telling him because I am afraid it will overwhelm

him.

> It

> > > > would

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > different if we had been friends for awhile first or

> > > > something.

> > > > > > When

> > > > > > > I get my braces on in a month, he is obviously going to

> > > > > > notice.

> > > > > > > My question is, How much should I tell him or not tell

> him?

> > > > > Also,

> > > > > > > has anyone else been in a situation similar to mine

and

> how

> > > > did

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > handle it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Not that I have had the surgery yet but I find your comments about

your appearance not improving with the surgery as unusual as surely

the profile improves for patients seeking advancement. Having a

correct functional bite and occlusion logically would make the face

more aesthetic.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have a personal question to ask related to this

> entire

> > > > > > process.

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > will be getting my braces on in a month or so and

then

> > > > > eventually

> > > > > > > > having upper and lower surgery to correct an

> underbite.

> > I

> > > > was

> > > > > > > hoping

> > > > > > > > to already have the braces on, but had to delay it a

> > little

> > > > > bit

> > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > to needing dental work first.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Here's where my question comes in...I just recently

> > started

> > > > > > dating

> > > > > > > > someone I was set up with. We don't know each other

> very

> > > > well

> > > > > > > yet,

> > > > > > > > but so far we have hit it off and have a lot in

> common.

> > > > > Because

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > have not known each other very long, I have not told

> him

> > > > > anything

> > > > > > > > about the braces/surgery. I am actually a little

> nervous

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > telling him because I am afraid it will overwhelm

> him.

> > It

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > different if we had been friends for awhile first or

> > > > > something.

> > > > > > > When

> > > > > > > > I get my braces on in a month, he is obviously going

to

> > > > > > > notice.

> > > > > > > > My question is, How much should I tell him or not

tell

> > him?

> > > > > > Also,

> > > > > > > > has anyone else been in a situation similar to mine

> and

> > how

> > > > > did

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > handle it?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

You said, " Having a correct functional bite and occlusion logically

would make the face more aesthetic. "

ABSOLUTELY incorrect.

In most cases, the patient's profile improves, but that's it. I do

not walk about trying to have people only look at my profile - they

look straight at my face. Improving the profile, while potentially

sacrificing your face, is RISKY.

If your case is extreme, it may improve your looks....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have a personal question to ask related to this

> > entire

> > > > > > > process.

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > will be getting my braces on in a month or so and

> then

> > > > > > eventually

> > > > > > > > > having upper and lower surgery to correct an

> > underbite.

> > > I

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > hoping

> > > > > > > > > to already have the braces on, but had to delay it

a

> > > little

> > > > > > bit

> > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > to needing dental work first.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Here's where my question comes in...I just

recently

> > > started

> > > > > > > dating

> > > > > > > > > someone I was set up with. We don't know each

other

> > very

> > > > > well

> > > > > > > > yet,

> > > > > > > > > but so far we have hit it off and have a lot in

> > common.

> > > > > > Because

> > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > have not known each other very long, I have not

told

> > him

> > > > > > anything

> > > > > > > > > about the braces/surgery. I am actually a little

> > nervous

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > telling him because I am afraid it will overwhelm

> > him.

> > > It

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > different if we had been friends for awhile first

or

> > > > > > something.

> > > > > > > > When

> > > > > > > > > I get my braces on in a month, he is obviously

going

> to

> > > > > > > > notice.

> > > > > > > > > My question is, How much should I tell him or not

> tell

> > > him?

> > > > > > > Also,

> > > > > > > > > has anyone else been in a situation similar to

mine

> > and

> > > how

> > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > handle it?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hiya,,

My case was borderline- far from extreme, and I think it improved my

profile and my straight-on appearance. The changes were subtle but I

definitely think it evened out the proportion of my lower face in

relation to my upper face. As I've said...most people would hardly

notice a difference but it *certainly* did not make me look worse...

One exception... when my jaw was starting to travel left, before they

yanked it back to center... that was looking worse...but had it healed

that way, that would have been an unfortunate accident- not the

intended & correct result.

Zulu- I'd love to see a " before " picture of you...maybe you are just

used to seeing yourself looking a certain way.

Tova

>

> You said, " Having a correct functional bite and occlusion logically

> would make the face more aesthetic. "

>

> ABSOLUTELY incorrect.

>

> In most cases, the patient's profile improves, but that's it. I do

> not walk about trying to have people only look at my profile - they

> look straight at my face. Improving the profile, while potentially

> sacrificing your face, is RISKY.

>

> If your case is extreme, it may improve your looks....

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have a personal question to ask related to this

> > > entire

> > > > > > > > process.

> > > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > will be getting my braces on in a month or so and

> > then

> > > > > > > eventually

> > > > > > > > > > having upper and lower surgery to correct an

> > > underbite. 

> > > > I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > hoping

> > > > > > > > > > to already have the braces on, but had to delay it

> a

> > > > little

> > > > > > > bit

> > > > > > > > > due

> > > > > > > > > > to needing dental work first.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Here's where my question comes in...I just

> recently

> > > > started

> > > > > > > > dating

> > > > > > > > > > someone I was set up with.  We don't know each

> other

> > > very

> > > > > > well

> > > > > > > > > yet,

> > > > > > > > > > but so far we have hit it off and have a lot in

> > > common.

> > > > > > > Because

> > > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > have not known each other very long, I have not

> told

> > > him

> > > > > > > anything

> > > > > > > > > > about the braces/surgery.  I am actually a little

> > > nervous

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > telling him because I am afraid it will overwhelm

> > > him. 

> > > > It

> > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > different if we had been friends for awhile first

> or

> > > > > > > something.

> > > > > > > > > When

> > > > > > > > > > I get my braces on in a month, he is obviously

> going

> > to

> > > > > > > > > notice.

> > > > > > > > > > My question is, How much should I tell him or not

> > tell

> > > > him?

> > > > > > > > Also,

> > > > > > > > > > has anyone else been in a situation similar to

> mine

> > > and

> > > > how

> > > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > handle it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >