Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Question? I am 5'6 " and weigh at least 300lbs (maybe even 10 or 15 pounds more) and used a calculator to determine my BMI is 49. But I'm afraid I might not be accepted by Kaiser because I don't have any serious co-morbidities(sp?). I have some joint pain when I walk upstairs and I get winded " very " easily and sweat a lot if I do anything physical but my blood pressure is between 137/89 and 145/83 (which I don't think is super dangerous - yet). My cholesterol is normal. I have a hard time sleeping but I've never been tested or diagnosed with sleep apnea. Do all of these things above qualify as co-morbidities serious enough to warrant WLS according to Kaiser's guidelines? Does anyone know how bad your general health needs to be to get approved? It's discouraging to think I may to need to push myself along to get worse and worse just so I'll have more health problems and can get approved. (just worried and frustrated) Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 It sounds to me like you would qualify with those comorbs, especially if your primary doc is supportive. I was 5'10 " , about 320, and my comorbidity ended up being pre-arthritis changes in the knees according to x-rays. It's certainly worth a try! At 04:33 05/18/2006, you wrote: >Question? I am 5'6 " and weigh at least 300lbs (maybe even 10 or 15 >pounds more) and used a calculator to determine my BMI is 49. But >I'm afraid I might not be accepted by Kaiser >because I don't have any serious co-morbidities(sp?). > >I have some joint pain when I walk upstairs and I get winded " very " >easily and sweat a lot if I do anything physical but my blood >pressure is between 137/89 and 145/83 (which I don't think is super >dangerous - yet). My cholesterol is normal. I have a hard time >sleeping but I've never been tested or diagnosed with sleep apnea. >Do all of these things above qualify as >co-morbidities serious enough to warrant WLS >according to Kaiser's guidelines? Does anyone >know how bad your general health needs to be to get approved? > >It's discouraging to think I may to need to push myself along to get >worse and worse just so I'll have more health problems and can get >approved. > >(just worried and frustrated) > >Thanks, > Eleanor Oster eleanor@... (personal address) www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm San , CA Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) ~5'9 " tall 05/09/2003 319 Orientation 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery Current 157±2 Goal until plastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Have a great (and safe) trip to Reno. I went last week Wed and Thurs and I had a great time. Thanks for the reminder about the support group. I am definetely going to try to make it. Hope to see ya there! Barbara From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Donna JordonSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:09 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: RE: re: weight I won't be there Friday, I am going to Reno for the weekend. I've been working hard with daycare, family, husband's move, painting, yards alot of house stuff (looking really nice) and so much more. So this weekend me and a friend are headed for some fun. Then Monday is support group, I hate missing swim aerobics, but I haven't been to support for 3 months with all of life happening, so I guess I will go to support. Hope to see you there. Then back to swim aerobics on Wednesday. Yes, I will be shocked if you or anyone of the ones on here ever show up. I will continue it is such good exercise, I love it. I am doing good. Take care. Donna J."Hokoana, Barbara" wrote: Im great Donna! How about yourself? Im still trying to make it to water aerobics. I'll surprise you one day - I swear I will - lol Barbara From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Donna JordonSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:55 PMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: RE: re: weight You are right Barbara. How are you these days? Take care. Donna J."Hokoana, Barbara" wrote: As of last July when I was excepted, BMI had to be over 50 with no co-morbidities. But someone told me the standards just changed again, but Im not sure which way. Barbara (LTLJSMOM) Dr. Fisher Orientation: 284.5 (7/5/05) Surgery: 250 (12/12/05) Today: 173.5 Goal: 150 (until plastics) From: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients [mailto:gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients ] On Behalf Of Robynn VanPattenSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:05 AMTo: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients Subject: Re: re: weight ly, when your BMI is above 45, I don't think co-morbidities are even required. At least, that was the standard at one pont. RobynnEleanor Oster wrote: It sounds to me like you would qualify with those comorbs, especially if your primary doc is supportive. I was 5'10", about 320, and my comorbidity ended up being pre-arthritis changes in the knees according to x-rays. It's certainly worth a try!At 04:33 05/18/2006, you wrote:>Question? I am 5'6" and weigh at least 300lbs (maybe even 10 or 15>pounds more) and used a calculator to determine my BMI is 49. But>I'm afraid I might not be accepted by Kaiser >because I don't have any serious co-morbidities(sp?).>>I have some joint pain when I walk upstairs and I get winded "very">easily and sweat a lot if I do anything physical but my blood>pressure is between 137/89 and 145/83 (which I don't think is super>dangerous - yet). My cholesterol is normal. I have a hard time>sleeping but I've never been tested or diagnosed with sleep apnea.>Do all of these things above qualify as >co-morbidities serious enough to warrant WLS >according to Kaiser's guidelines? Does anyone >know how bad your general health needs to be to get approved?>>It's discouraging to think I may to need to push myself along to get>worse and worse just so I'll have more health problems and can get>approved.>>(just worried and frustrated)>>Thanks,>Eleanor Ostereleanor@... (personal address)www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htmSan , CAOpen RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)~5'9" tall05/09/2003 319 Orientation07/15/2003 ~290 SurgeryCurrent 157±2 Goal until plastics? Donna JordonDSJordon@... Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Donna JordonDSJordon@... Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 My doctor said I qualify I have sleep apnea,diabetes,high blood pressure very high,high cholesterol,and a BMI of 40 and my PCP sent me to health mananger he com firmed it and mad the appointment with the dietitian in July I am already going to the sleep clinic in Stockton.you can check your bmi at ediets and then you will know I am so afraid they will turn me down but i have so many comorbidity's the worst thing is I smoke and have tried everything to quit .I just have to get my mind together and just quit cold turkey I have a lot of things against me I know what I am going to do I'll just stop .I don't want to check out just now .so just hang in there and go for it .and good luckDonna Jordon wrote: As of April 2005 when I had my surgery the BMI had to be 50 or more without co-morbidities. BMI below 50 had to have 2 co-morbidities, unless 1 was so severe. I was 46 BMI at orientation, but I had severe sleep apnea, and other co-morbidities. Standards are still changing. Take care. Donna J.Robynn VanPatten wrote: ly, when your BMI is above 45, I don't think co-morbidities are even required. At least, that was the standard at one pont. RobynnEleanor Oster wrote: It sounds to me like you would qualify with those comorbs, especially if your primary doc is supportive. I was 5'10", about 320, and my comorbidity ended up being pre-arthritis changes in the knees according to x-rays. It's certainly worth a try!At 04:33 05/18/2006, you wrote:>Question? I am 5'6" and weigh at least 300lbs (maybe even 10 or 15>pounds more) and used a calculator to determine my BMI is 49. But>I'm afraid I might not be accepted by Kaiser >because I don't have any serious co-morbidities(sp?).>>I have some joint pain when I walk upstairs and I get winded "very">easily and sweat a lot if I do anything physical but my blood>pressure is between 137/89 and 145/83 (which I don't think is super>dangerous - yet). My cholesterol is normal. I have a hard time>sleeping but I've never been tested or diagnosed with sleep apnea.>Do all of these things above qualify as >co-morbidities serious enough to warrant WLS >according to Kaiser's guidelines? Does anyone >know how bad your general health needs to be to get approved?>>It's discouraging to think I may to need to push myself along to get>worse and worse just so I'll have more health problems and can get>approved.>>(just worried and frustrated)>>Thanks,>Eleanor Ostereleanor@... (personal address)www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htmSan , CAOpen RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)~5'9" tall05/09/2003 319 Orientation07/15/2003 ~290 SurgeryCurrent 157�2 Goal until plastics? I can do all things through christ who strengthens me Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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