Re: Questions about high blood sugar/kidney levels possible relation to the diet

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Hi n,

I'm sorry are going through this. I guess the question is how high? Is the blood

sugar slightly over 100 or really high? Do you have high blood pressure along

with the kidney labs being high?

Some moderately high blood sugars can be controlled with diet and exercise

alone. You are thin which is good because obesity is a risk factor for diabetes

II.

I can't relate any of this to SCD, unless you were consuming gigantic amounts of

protein which would raise your BUN. Dehydration can do that too. Prednisone can

raise blood sugar but you are not on it now. Simbiocort is a steroid and can do

that too, but not typically in the amounts in an inhaler.

PJ

>

> I'm experiencing some rather weird goings on in my body and am curious as

> to whether any of this has happened to any of the rest of you.

>

> I saw my gastroenterologist two weeks ago and he naturally ordered blood

> work for me. That showed high kidney levels, meaning some reduced kidney

> function. Since then, I've greatly cut back on my supplements and am

> consciously drinking more water; I do often feel dehydrated even though I

> do normally drink quite a bit of water. And just for info: I've never

> taken the most serious Crohn's drugs that can destroy the kidneys --

> except prednisone, and that not in the last two years and not more than 5

> mg/day and not more than three or four months at a time. The only drug I

> now take is LDN; and Symbicort once a day for asthma; I had to take that

> twice a day before I went on LDN.

>

> So due to the high kidney levels my regular physician sent me back for

> more blood work and extensive urinalysis.

>

> This morning his office called and wants me to go back to the lab a third

> time -- this time because the 2nd round of tests showed high blood sugar.

> That very much surprised me; if anything, I would have suspected low blood

> sugar, as I get shaky when I haven't eaten in a while and am often cold.

> So on Wednesday I go for a glucose tolerance test, which takes at least

> three hours and involves an initial blood draw, then several subsequent

> blood draws after drinking a glass of liquid glucose (yuck) at hour

> intervals.

>

> How does this relate to the diet? Well, that's what I'm wondering. Or if

> it does. Or to my excessive and fairly fast weight loss.

>

> I've had Crohn's for 30 years (and other digestive problems before that

> diagnosis) and have had two surgeries to remove part of my small

> intestine; but most of that time I was not under weight. I am between 5'

> 10'' - 5' 11 " and weighed 170 when I started the diet at the beginning of

> last year. (At that weight I didn't look particularly fat due to my

> height. I am now well underweight, weighing less than 120. That weight all

> came off when I stopped eating complex carbs -- all the grains, rice and

> potatoes. The only results of that large weight loss and being on the diet

> (besides my gut feeling much better most of the time) is greatly increased

> sensitivity to cold and also feeling as if I need to eat something almost

> every hour, or at most every two hours. I get shaky if I don't eat

> frequently. (I've had that kind of shakiness when not eating for much of

> my life, but it's much more pronounced now.) So I'm constantly eating (but

> not gaining any weight back). LDN does cause some people to lose weight,

> so it could be playing a role in my not being able to gain back any

> weight. (I'd prefer to weigh a good 10 lbs more than I do.)

>

> The glucose intolerance test is most often used to determine whether one

> has Type II diabetes. If I do, I can't imagine where that would have come

> from " all of a sudden. " The high blood sugar can relate to kidney function

> somehow but I'm not exactly clear on how. Not incidentally, even though

> I'm not wholly symptom-free re: the Crohn's, my inflammation markers are

> within normal range, the gastroenterologist told me. That's the good news.

>

> Needless to say, at this point I'm not sure what the heck is going on.

> Have any of you experienced anything similar since being on the diet?

>

> n

>

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> Hi n,> I'm sorry are going through this. I guess the question is how high? Is > the blood sugar slightly over 100 or really high? Do you have high blood > pressure along with the kidney labs being high?Thanks for the reply (and to as well). On my first tests the glucose levels were not high. (In fact, they've remained steady for six months, at 94/95 (non-fasting), which from what I understand is actually slightly LOW, not high (normal non-fasting being 100-140). I haven't seen the results of the second tests and urinalysis.I've never had high blood pressure in my life; italways tends to be on the fairly low side of normal.  My BUN/creatinine ratio was normal on the first tests, but creatinine itself was high (2.37; normal being 0.60-1.10). And my eGFR level (renal function for those whose eyes are glazing over!] was very low: 21 as opposed to 60 (on tests six months ago that level was 60). That level can indicate severe kidney damage, according to various internet sites. No wonder my doctor is setting me up to see a nephrologist.  I'm feeling rather freaked out about this (though I very much believe in the power of prayer. It seemed to come out of nowhere. It's always been the Crohn's and related auto-immune stuff I've worried about, or had to worry about. Though this in some way could very well be Crohn's-/auto-immune-related, as Crohn's can effect the major organs.n-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

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weight loss and lots of thirst or "feeling dehydrated" are classic symptoms of Type 1 diabetes, which is another autoimmune disease. It can come on very quickly (did for me and my brother both as adults in our 30's. If your blood sugar is high or has been consistently high they can tell that w/a blood test, not sure if the glucose tolerance test would be needed to confirm that. (I am not saying you have it, just that those are symptoms).good luck w/everything. I'm experiencing some rather weird goings on in my body and am curious as to whether any of this has happened to any of the rest of you.I saw my gastroenterologist two weeks ago and he naturally ordered blood work for me. That showed high kidney levels, meaning some reduced kidney function. Since then, I've greatly cut back on my supplements and am consciously drinking more water; I do often feel dehydrated even though I do normally drink quite a bit of water. And just for info: I've never taken the most serious Crohn's drugs that can destroy the kidneys -- except prednisone, and that not in the last two years and not more than 5 mg/day and not more than three or four months at a time. The only drug I now take is LDN; and Symbicort once a day for asthma; I had to take that twice a day before I went on LDN. So due to the high kidney levels my regular physician sent me back for more blood work and extensive urinalysis.This morning his office called and wants me to go back to the lab a third time -- this time because the 2nd round of tests showed high blood sugar. That very much surprised me; if anything, I would have suspected low blood sugar, as I get shaky when I haven't eaten in a while and am often cold. So on Wednesday I go for a glucose tolerance test, which takes at least three hours and involves an initial blood draw, then several subsequent blood draws after drinking a glass of liquid glucose (yuck) at hour intervals.How does this relate to the diet? Well, that's what I'm wondering. Or if it does. Or to my excessive and fairly fast weight loss. I've had Crohn's for 30 years (and other digestive problems before that diagnosis) and have had two surgeries to remove part of my small intestine; but most of that time I was not under weight. I am between 5' 10'' - 5' 11" and weighed 170 when I started the diet at the beginning of last year. (At that weight I didn't look particularly fat due to my height. I am now well underweight, weighing less than 120. That weight all came off when I stopped eating complex carbs -- all the grains, rice and potatoes. The only results of that large weight loss and being on the diet (besides my gut feeling much better most of the time) is greatly increased sensitivity to cold and also feeling as if I need to eat something almost every hour, or at most every two hours. I get shaky if I don't eat frequently. (I've had that kind of shakiness when not eating for much of my life, but it's much more pronounced now.) So I'm constantly eating (but not gaining any weight back). LDN does cause some people to lose weight, so it could be playing a role in my not being able to gain back any weight. (I'd prefer to weigh a good 10 lbs more than I do.)The glucose intolerance test is most often used to determine whether one has Type II diabetes. If I do, I can't imagine where that would have come from "all of a sudden." The high blood sugar can relate to kidney function somehow but I'm not exactly clear on how. Not incidentally, even though I'm not wholly symptom-free re: the Crohn's, my inflammation markers are within normal range, the gastroenterologist told me. That's the good news.Needless to say, at this point I'm not sure what the heck is going on. Have any of you experienced anything similar since being on the diet?n-- Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

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At 11:32 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote:

Have any of you experienced

anything similar since being on the diet?

n,

Stress, pain, or illness can all raise blood glucose levels according to

my diabetic friends.

Something to be aware of is that the glucose they give you may not be

pure glucose -- it may be a mix of mono, di-, tri- saccharides.

It gave me explosive diarrhea, and did the same to my niece. So you might

want to be prepared for that possibility.

I strongly recommend bringing something with you to eat --

something with a small amount of carb, and plenty of good protein and

fat. I was kind of shaky from the fasting, and then the glucose sent my

BG up through the roof (which it's supposed to do) and then it dropped --

and by the time the test was done, a was so hungry I couldn't see

straight. Literally. Fortunately, I had brought food....

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Marilyn

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:20:48 -0300, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:> At 11:32 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote:>> Have any of you experienced anything similar since being on the diet?>> n,>> Stress, pain, or illness can all raise blood> glucose levels according to my diabetic friends.>> Something to be aware of is that the glucose they> give you may not be pure glucose -- it may be a> mix of mono, di-, tri- saccharides.>> It gave me explosive diarrhea, and did the same> to my niece. So you might want to be prepared for that possibility.>> I strongly recommend bringing something with you> to eat -- something with a small amount of carb,> and plenty of good protein and fat. I was kind of> shaky from the fasting, and then the glucose sent> my BG up through the roof (which it's supposed to> do) and then it dropped -- and by the time the> test was done, a was so hungry I couldn't see> straight. Literally. Fortunately, I had brought food....>>> — MarilynThanks much, Marilyn. Though I live only about 10 minutes from the lab, I will bring some food for the end of the test; hadn't thought to do that (I do tend to get shaky anyway, as I said, when I haven't eaten in a couple of hours). And I will be prepared re: what the glucose might do to me (I had already read that some people simply throw up from it, or get sweaty, shaky, etc.  Oh joy! :-)An odd but very happy thing: this morning my doctor's nurse called and said, yes, you do need to have the glucose intolerance test (I had wondered, since my first blood test showed a normal glucose level) but I DON'T have to see a nephrologist because I apparently don't have a kidney problem after all -- that, after I was told yesterday I do have "severe" kidney dysfunction (according to the first blood test). The second tests showed normal kidney function levels. I am, of course, elated. I'm beginning to wonder about Quest Diagnostics, however....  n Now available. A fine gift for cat lovers:Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addictionby n Van Tilwww.wordpowerpublishing.com ; signed copies; free shipping in U.S., reduced shipping elsewhere

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>> An odd but very happy thing: this morning my doctor's nurse called>> and said, yes, you do need to have the glucose intolerance test (I>> had wondered, since my first blood test showed a normal glucose>> level) but I DON'T have to see a nephrologist because I apparently>> don't have a kidney problem after all -- that, after I was told>> yesterday I do have "severe" kidney dysfunction (according to the>> first blood test). The second tests showed normal kidney function>> levels. I am, of course, elated. I'm beginning to wonder about Quest>> Diagnostics, however....>>> Thanks goodness! I can't imagine how big of a relief that must have> been. I was praying for you =)>> Peace =)> Alyssa 16 yoYes, relief isn't the word! I had suddenly felt like my days were numbered -- which in retrospect isn't entirely a bad thing to make one re-evaluate certain of one's time-wasting habits!And thanks very much, Alyssa, for the prayers. You're a sweetheart (and a brave young woman in your own right).  n______________________________A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of  a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com  

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An odd but very happy thing: this morning my doctor's nurse called and said, yes, you do need to have the glucose intolerance test (I had wondered, since my first blood test showed a normal glucose level) but I DON'T have to see a nephrologist because I apparently don't have a kidney problem after all -- that, after I was told yesterday I do have "severe" kidney dysfunction (according to the first blood test). The second tests showed normal kidney function levels. I am, of course, elated. I'm beginning to wonder about Quest Diagnostics, however.... Thanks goodness! I can't imagine how big of a relief that must have been. I was praying for you =) Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 35 mg 1x per day

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:08:28 -0300, jschneider

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> Me too. I'm glad you're o.k.

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Thanks!

n

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