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Jodi,

I think you should keep trying to find a solution if the surgery is

absolutely needed for functional reasons. I thought there was nothing

worse than these braces and there are days when I feel the urge to

tear them out but now I think I will begin to appreciate the fact that

mine are on.

I can imagine how disappointed you are. To accept that you need braces

and surgery is hard, but when you discover that you can't help youself

must be devastating.

I am sorry

Karola

>

> Well after 2 attempts to put braces on me both failed. The first

time

> (monday) 11 bracketts fell off before I left the office...so

yesterday

> they tried etching on the porcelin and then before I left I had lost

6

> bracketts...soooooooooo he took them off and said he was done

> trying. I am devastated. This means no surgery no help for Jodi.

I

> don't know if I should try a different orthodontist or learn to live

> with this...any advice?

>

> I have 11 porcelin teeth. the rest are mine

>

> Jodi

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I didn't follow your whole story, so maybe this isn't even applicable -

but did your ortho try banding you?

I have a couple of crowns, and instead of my ortho just trying to

attach the regular ol' brackets to the crowns, he banded them. He said

that with crowns (and I would suspect the same thing with veneers) that

it's much easier and of course, a lot more " stable " for the tooth

itself.

Now, along the same lines, if your ortho hasn't thought about banding

you and is ready to give up... I'd suggest finding another ortho :)

And if he has tried banding you and I just missed that particular

thread... then everything I said is pretty much moot :P

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By the way... the kind of banding I'm referring to is where the brace

encircles the whole tooth as opposed to being just glued on to the

front of the tooth

(thought I'd clarify that since there's so much talk of being banded -

with rubber bands... :P )

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Hi Jodi,

I'm so sorry! I definitely don't think you should give up. I can't

imagine how discouraged and frustrated you must feel though. I think

you should seek out a new orthodontist- one that is specialized in

perhaps more difficult cases like yours where the braces aren't being

attached to regular enamel. I am curious how experienced your ortho

is. I got burned the first time around by my ortho in high school.

Different circumstances, but it definitely highlighted for me that

not all orthodontists are created equal. Perhaps you can seek out

recommendations through other adults that have braces (adults tend to

have had more work done in their mouth). Also try getting some

recommendations through dentists and particularly dental specialists.

Maybe some different surgeons can offer recommendations since the

surgery is usually performed on adults and usually requires braces.

They must know of some good orthodontists you can try. Maybe you can

look up with orthodontists specialize in adult orthodontics. They

would be more experienced in dealing with the adult mouth that more

likely has had some work done in there. After you get some

recommendations, see if any of the names repeat. At least you've had

records taken. I wonder if that one ortho, since you paid for them,

will let you take your records. After all, you are now, due to HIM!,

having to seek out and undertake the added expense of finding a New

ortho. I would imagine he has some sort of obligation to you that

way. It's his fault he's incapable. He should be able to make

copies/provide you with doubles. Anyway, all of this is said without

knowing how much research you did when chosing your " current " ortho

or what your specific situation is- so I do acknowledge that what I

am suggesting may not be applicable. I just wanted to think up some

more ideas that maybe you could try. Again,I am really sorry because

this must be such a challenge for you. I just can't imagine that

there isn't some doctor out there that can help you. The best of luck

to you Jodi. Stay encouraged! and let us know how everything goes for

you. We're thinking of you!! Katja :)

>

> I didn't follow your whole story, so maybe this isn't even

applicable -

> but did your ortho try banding you?

>

> I have a couple of crowns, and instead of my ortho just trying to

> attach the regular ol' brackets to the crowns, he banded them. He

said

> that with crowns (and I would suspect the same thing with veneers)

that

> it's much easier and of course, a lot more " stable " for the tooth

> itself.

>

> Now, along the same lines, if your ortho hasn't thought about

banding

> you and is ready to give up... I'd suggest finding another

ortho :)

>

>

> And if he has tried banding you and I just missed that particular

> thread... then everything I said is pretty much moot :P

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That's a good idea! Back in the day, when my mom had braces, all her

teeth were banded for 4 long years. I think that was the old school

method. Not the most attractive or ideal, but braces are temporary

anyway and if the bands do the job and stay put, then ya can't

complain..... I wonder if that ortho thought of trying bands. Not all

Doctors are the most creative, original thinkers, nor are they all

great with " problems " and problem solving. He sounds young, and like

a bad apple that is used to typical children's mouths and the quick-

fix. Poor Jodi! :(

-Katja

>

> By the way... the kind of banding I'm referring to is where the

brace

> encircles the whole tooth as opposed to being just glued on to the

> front of the tooth

>

> (thought I'd clarify that since there's so much talk of being

banded -

> with rubber bands... :P )

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