Re: Sudden Weakness

April 30, 2003

Thank you for your tips!! The muscle physiologist at the store where I buy my

supplements and the nutritionist at Beth Israel (, who is WONDERFUL) also

concur with you that I should load up on some protein as well as some carbs in

the hour or so before the game so that I get both the available energy from the

carbs and the sustained energy from the protein. Also, I will not work out the

morning of the game, as well as rescheduling my eating for the day so that I

get the bulk of my calories before the game. I will be doing up a shake and a

glass of OJ in the hour before game time. The peanut butter and crackers will

be in my bag of tricks that day as well. If not, I may float like my

knuckleball! :-)

Thanks again!

God bless,

Joe

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> Actually, a combination of carbs and prtein are best when feeling light

> headed from low blood sugar. You need the quick energy from the carbs

> and the protein will help keep things leveled out. I usually use peanut

> butter and crackers or cheese and crackers.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs.

> Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs.

> Current Weight 335 lbs

> Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

>

> On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:34:39 -0700 " Butterflye "

> writes:

> > >> I thought that if I upped the carbs for fuel and the

> > calories, I would not have a repeat of the same thing. Well, this

> > time, it was the same thing. After pitching for about 50 minutes, I

> > suddenly got very weak.

> >

> > It's the carbs for fuel -- in the case of WLS folks, this is a bad

> > thing.

> > Carbs will give you quick fuel and spike your insulin, then crash

> > you hard

> > when all the " fuel " is used up.

> >

> > Next time, go for a protein shake right before you start to pitch,

> > keep

> > drinking the water, and at some point between innings, if you start

> > to feel

> > down, have another protein shake. Don't worry about the calorie

> > intake of

> > the protein shakes -- you're using them us as exactly what you need

> > -- fuel.

> >

> > ~~ Lyn G

> >

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> >

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> >

April 30, 2003

>> Actually, a combination of carbs and prtein are best when feeling light

headed from low blood sugar.

Yes, but if you're properly fueled up with protein before the exercise, you

shouldn't get the low blood sugar in the first place. He fueled up with

carbs, and when the carbs were used up, crash went the blood sugar. We're

trying for prevention for next time.

And crackers -- I keep seeing people telling me to put peanut butter on

crackers -- this sends me into carb spiral hell every time. There are 7

grams of carbs in the peanut butter -- I eat it right off the spoon if I

need it, but don't give me crackers... that's one of the main ingredients in

my weight re-gain.

~~ Lyn

April 30, 2003

I must admit I skimmed the email. I totally understand that it is better

to prevent it if possible. But it is not always possible. Therefore a

quick and effective remedy is a combination of protein and carbs. I

almost always suggest either peanut butter or cheese. Being a recovering

diabetic, I always carry protein and crackers with me. I don't always

need them but they are there. This may not work for everybody but it

works for me.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

congestive heart failure 4/14/01 479 lbs.

Silistic Ring Vertical Gastroplasty 7/16/01 401 lbs.

Current Weight 335 lbs

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:21:03 -0700 " Butterflye "

writes:

>

> >> Actually, a combination of carbs and prtein are best when feeling

> light

> headed from low blood sugar.

>

> Yes, but if you're properly fueled up with protein before the

> exercise, you

> shouldn't get the low blood sugar in the first place. He fueled up

> with

> carbs, and when the carbs were used up, crash went the blood sugar.

> We're

> trying for prevention for next time.

>

> And crackers -- I keep seeing people telling me to put peanut butter

> on

> crackers -- this sends me into carb spiral hell every time. There

> are 7

> grams of carbs in the peanut butter -- I eat it right off the spoon

> if I

> need it, but don't give me crackers... that's one of the main

> ingredients in

> my weight re-gain.

>

> ~~ Lyn

>

April 30, 2003

The manager of the gym where I work out is a bicyclist, a rabid one

at that. He recommended that I use a combo protein-carb powder

called Endurox after my workouts to restore me. So, I put two scoops

of powder in a squeeze bottle, and I fill it at the water cooler

after my weight training exercises and then sip it while I do 1/2

hour of aerobics on a stationary bike. Apparently, Endurox is a

staple of competitive cyclists. There are two flavors, orange and

tropical punch (I think). He recommended the orange, so that's what

I got. Tasts is NOT great--takes getting used to. But, now that I

am used to it, it is OK.

NOW . . . if you want a really good tasting protein-only drink, the

newest " big thang " is Nectar. I just ordered three 2.2-pound jugs of

the powder from http://www.wlssuccess.com. Flavors are Apple

Ecstasy, Very Cherry Berry, Caribbean Cooler . They are so swamped

by orders that they have just sent out partial back-orders by

Priority Mail! I got the Caribbean Cooler and the Cherry Berry today

and tried the former. It tastes like a piña colada. I'd give it an

85 to 90 out of 100 in taste. My plan is to use this when I exercise

instead of the Endurox. It is cheaper, tastes better, and has no

carbs. You can also get samples for $1 each (I didn't bother--went

for broke).

Good luck,

Steve

April 30, 2003

Thank you Steve! I have been wanting to try the nectar. It sounds like it

is pretty good. What kind of protein is in it? How many calories and grams

of protein are in a scoop and how big is a serving?