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Thanks for your candid reply, Jac. It brought me some encouragement

today. " Roll on, Rawhide " hide the nail on the head.

I have been missing lately because of a case of shingles which left

me with PHN...Nauralgia (nerve damage). I can't sleep so I am now

on sleeping pills. I take Ibuprophen by the case during the day

because I am afraid of taking vicotin or other narcotics during the

day as well as the sleeping pill at night. I know taking too much

Ibuprophen isn't the best for you, but I heard if you eat something

before first it helps.

Needless to say, " muscle girl " here is depressed over this because

it has seriously hampered my lifestyle of working out, not to

mention almost constant pain. The doctor said it could last a

couple of weeks or several months! I try not to whine and to be

grateful for the blessings in my life, but constant pain makes it

hard to even eat properly (not much appetite).

So with my garden that was bringing me so much joy only partially

finished it has to be abandoned for now. My work-out schedule has

to be abandoned for now. Or...do you do these things anyway and

just push through the pain and say " the heck with it...it is not

going to get me down? " Will I do more damage?

I worked hard and was so disciplined getting down to goal and

sculping my body with weight training. I am physically so strong I

can hit drive a golf ball 270. And now this happens.

Any one have any experience with this? Did you gain weight as a

result? Any advice on meds or activities? How long did it last?

Thanks,

Carol G

>

> > ** There's a big difference between you and me right there. It

is not any

> > harder for me to eat as much as I ever could. I eat it slower,

but I can

> > still eat it. It is not impossible for me to eat a Whopper,

large fries

> and

> > a slice of pie. For a while, I was eating foot-long Subways 3 or

4 times a

> > week. I can't eat as fast, but I can eat as much. If I choose

to. And

> > sometimes I lose all control and choose to.

> >

>

> I can eat a foot long Subway. Have done so a few times.

> But it takes an hour or more, and I feel at least a bit

> uncomfortable afterward. Not sick, more like after a huge

> Thankgsiving feast pre-surgery. But before surgery I

> could've eaten it in 10 minutes, added fries or chips and a

> huge coke, and followed with a pint of Ben & Jerry's

> afterwards. So I still have to say the surgery made a big

> difference.

>

> But that's getting away from the point. If one person can

> eat more, and desires to eat more, and has a body screaming

> for all the stuff we shouldn't eat, does that mean the

> person who is happily sated with less food and doesn't crave

> the " bad " stuff is making wiser choices? I don't think so.

> She is just luckier.

>

> > Yes, the surgery gave me the possibility to lose, and I chose to

have the

> > surgery. Whether or not it is ultimately successful is entirely

up to me,

> > barring mechanical failure of the surgery itself.

>

> I still disagree for the most part. Yes, everyone has

> choices to make, and the best you can do to maximize your

> own personal results is to change your eating habits as best

> you can, but much of your ultimate success will be due to

> factors beyond your control. Even two individuals who have

> the same surgery and follow the exact same program to

> perfection will rarely (if ever) achieve identical results.

>

> That doesn't mean you shouldn't do the best with what you

> have, but it does mean that results do not equal effort.

> One person may lose weight and maintain the loss with no

> effort, while someone else may be putting in enormous effort

> and not achieving nearly as much visible success.

>

> So saying that that person " chooses to be obese " is not only

> unkind, it is incorrect. And that is where I got into this

> discussion, with a statement that obesity was a choice and

> several posts making judgments about obese people, either in

> general or particular individuals. It particularly makes me

> sad to see so many people who have been trapped in morbid

> obesity are so ready to make that judgment about " blame " ,

> even if they are equally willing (as many are) to blame

> themselves as well.

>

> Jeri

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