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Fay said " Don't yall think " proper amount of sleep " is different for all

people. For

some, it is 3 hours, for others it can be 9 hours. "

Hey folks, saved this from last week cause I wanted to chime in here if I

could with my personal experiences. First I tend to agree with what Fay

said but I am unsure if the word " proper " is an adequate mode for me to

describe what I need.

Sleep is work for me. Sleep is a sought after, desirable state of being

that I experience in wee bits and tads and always have since I can remember

from the days of puberty. I really do not think it is normal for a twelve

or thirteen year old to recall many many times watching the sun come up

still lying in bed reading from the night before. I spent 20 years in the

military and it was nightmarish for me for them to turn out the lights (no

bunk reading allowed) and have to lie there until the morning,,,,,,it was

rare for me to sleep without alcohol or something else,,,,very rare. I did

need to sleep however, when others demanded that I be doing things for them,

that always tended to cause problems.

When I arrived at WLS serious consideration I had full blown severe

apnea,,,,,,and was unaware of lurking heart blockages as well,,,exhausted

all the time, but by then it had become a way of life. Now with some

perspective other than in the frying pan, some three years later, I am just

beginning realize which eggs came before which chickens over the whole

spectrum of a lifetime.

What I have come to believe is that my particular set of symptoms correspond

very well with puberty onset Bipolar II, and a fairly rapid cycler. Anxiety

may or may not be a major player here but how all this relates to eating and

morbid obesity for me is that what I am aware of most acutely is that with

the approach of sunset and evening leading into and towards bedtime, the

munch monster takes over my life. I think the urge to eat, or the feeding

of the anxietal monster (from wherever he cometh) is a causative factor in

my MO, along with using alcohol to medicate and ease so that sleep could

come. I can see rather clearly that I was fortunate to always seem to be

able to find a way to earn a living that could take me out of an eight hour

day structure and usually migrated to fields that required or had little or

not direct supervision. When I was rested and could function, I functioned

four times the amount others had to because I always had to make up for the

times I was not functioning or exhausted from fatigue. The combo of all

these factors was a contributing factor in my MO.

Sleep, this day, after WLS and amelioration of the majority of the physical

damage,,,,,is still work. I struggle with the food battle from six p.m.

until I can get to sleep. Fortunately now I have found a physician I can

work with and through trial and error we have arrived at a combo of one anti

anxiety drug in a very small dosage along with a tylenol pm and I sleep.

Yessssssss,,,,,,blessed sleep. When I can do those things, the other things

that cause me to regain, i.e., comfort or medicating eating are managble.

It was not an easy thing to come to grips with the fact that what I have

been dealing with is mental illness with lifelong standing. But it is good

to sense that there is a known, diagnosable, treatable reason for the

heretofore murky round of cyclic behaviors and health conditions which I

think have the majority of their roots in sleep, or the lack thereof.

Dan Slone

Surgery 5/2/2000,Yahoo Msg navwriter

AIM Navwriter58, ICQ 260890468

Re: Daily Calorie Count?Joy

In a message dated 6/22/2003 11:42:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,

brzezinski4@... writes:

> proper amount of sleep

Don't yall think " proper amount of sleep " is different for all people. For

some, it is 3 hours, for others it can be 9 hours.

Fay Bayuk

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