Re: To Marth Re: Reflections

[Guest guest]

Martha, I read this and I plan on keeping this for

future use because it makes so much sense and is the

truth. Although I have not experienced what is

experiencing, I just might in the future, who knows.

I am only one year and three months out so I am still

yet young in this journey.

Again, thanks for this because it opened my eyes

because I had begun to worry as I read that so many

people have gained some back and are struggling.

Thanks again.

Pam Marsh

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patients ,

> " M.

> > Silverspring " <nurseferatu@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > > I hear your desperation, and my heart hurts for

> you. I've been

> > there lots of times. Beating up on myself doesn't

> change anything;

> > in fact, it's just a way to stay the same. It's a

> penance to

> appease

> > my guilt so I could sneak off and do the same crap

> again. I think

> we

> > need to be friendly with ourselves.

> > >

> > > How am I friendly with myself? By being kind to

> myself, like a

> > good parent.

> > >

> > > You've seen the indulgent parents who think

> they're being

> loving

> > and accepting when they let their children do

> anything they want.

> > But that's lazy and it doesn't teach the child any

> discipline or

> > self-control. Those kids are not happy, and they

> are not people

> > anyone wants to be around.

> > >

> > > Then again, would a loving parent make the child

> fast? Would she

> > give her protein bars or a protein shake instead

> of lunch? Would

> she

> > beat the kid if the kid does something wrong?

> > >

> > > The flip side of our guilt is a whisper of

> wisdom: We know we

> can

> > do this differently, wiser, better. We long to

> love ourselves.

> > >

> > > There has to be loving discipline, or else

> there is no joy. We

> > need to find a path that works, stick with it,

> turn away from all

> > those picky doubting inner voices, and be honest

> with ourselves.

> It

> > doesn't do any good to lie to ourselves by saying

> " I accept

> myself "

> > when really we're just doing the same old crap.

> > >

> > > Notice: When you are able to design your loving

> self-discipline,

> > and practice it, you feel joyful and enriched. I

> do not mean some

> > punitive discipline; I mean: What good, healthy

> practices can you

> > stay with, that will nurture your best you? That

> is true self-

> > discipline, like a ball player or musician who

> practices for the

> > love of it, not to avoid punishment.

> > >

> > > Past achievements point to the fact that you can

> do it. But

> > they're in the past, and this is NOW, your

> one-and-only precious

> > human life.

> > >

> > > You've experimented, and only you know what the

> Right Path is

> for

> > you. In the past you've said that fasting doesn't

> work, starving

> > yourself doesn't work, and Starbuck's doesn't

> work. Maybe it would

> > help to stop focusing on losing weight, and start

> focusing on what

> > kind of " food life path " you want to live. That

> way, even if you

> > don't achieve the body you'd like to have, you

> will be happy

> because

> > right living will give you peace.

> > >

> > > Love

> > > Martha

> > >

> >

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