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Go to the DS-Insurance Authorization site. There is a lot of good

info. and plenty of people fighting BCBS issues.

> I have bc/bs of Alabama and am trying to get approved for the DS .

I have been denied ,they say it is considered investigation. Has

anyone with this insurance been approved for the Ds.

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I had bc/bs of South Dakota and they approved it in less than 48

hours, but I have NO idea if there is any link between SD and Alabama.

Good luck!

> I have bc/bs of Alabama and am trying to get approved for the DS .

I have been denied ,they say it is considered investigation. Has

anyone with this insurance been approved for the Ds.

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Sounds like an iron clad exclusion to me. My daughter had one such

as this on the Washington State employees insurance (all of their

providers) that has not been broken AFAIK. She went to Spain and had

Dr Baltasar do it.

Only way to change this is to have the employer change their options

with the insurance company when they renew their contract. The less

hte insurance covers, the less the employer pays. It isn't the

insurance company doing this to you, it is the employer that chooses

to buy insurance for employees and have this exclusion in it.

/Seattle

> I went to the website for my insurance company, and this is what

they

> had to say: It exculdes...

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Toni,

That's a pretty ironclad exclusion, unfortunately!! :( When is open

enrollment at your company and what are the other choices ? Do you

have a PPO option ? I would ask HR for the benefit books of the other

programs. You can just let them know you're thinking about switching

plans and you want to compare the level of coverage.

Good luck!

*hugs*

Anita

Surgery Date 11/08/01

Dr Keshishian

P.S Toni, I switched from Kaiser HMO to Great West PPO..my GW policy

did not have any exclusions and I had to wait a year to switch during

open enrollment this year, but after my LOMN was sent out, I was

approved less than 24 hours!!

> I went to the website for my insurance company, and this is what

they

> had to say: It exculdes...

>

> " any surgical procedure intended primarily for treatment of morbid

> obesity, including gastric bypass and jejunal bypass or

complications

> of bypass surgery. Also, weight loss programs or clinics that

utilize

> very low calorie supplement in any form, such as liquid or pre-

> packaged food and all related laboratory or diagnostic testing,

> vitamins or medications. "

>

> What should I do? I haven't even gotten to talk to a surgeon yet,

> and I'm already hitting brick walls!!

>

>

> BTW... to those I talked to in chat on Sunday... thanks for

answering

> all my questions! You are a great group!

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Thanks for the responses... unfortunately, this isn't my company. I

am still under my mom's insurance and it would be up to her to have

to go bug HR. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want to do that and make

waves with the company, if you know what i mean.... Guess I'll go on

living the life of a fat girl....

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Wow. Brutal. And what, pray tell, is the name of this

compassionate and forward thinking insurance company so I

can warn my children and their children's children away from

them! :[

Jean.

insurance denial

> I went to the website for my insurance company, and this

is what they

> had to say: It exculdes...

>

> " any surgical procedure intended primarily for treatment

of morbid

> obesity, including gastric bypass and jejunal bypass or

complications

> of bypass surgery. Also, weight loss programs or clinics

that utilize

> very low calorie supplement in any form, such as liquid or

pre-

> packaged food and all related laboratory or diagnostic

testing,

> vitamins or medications. "

>

> What should I do? I haven't even gotten to talk to a

surgeon yet,

> and I'm already hitting brick walls!!

>

>

> BTW... to those I talked to in chat on Sunday... thanks

for answering

> all my questions! You are a great group!

>

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------

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>

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Wow...that's a pretty iron-clad exclusion unless you have serious comorbs --

if you had serious comorbs, then the wls could be in treatment for those,

not necessarily for the obesity,b ut it's a hard row to hoe. Since this

isn't your ins coverage on your own, what about getting a job where you get

your own coverage? I'd be looking out for a company w/o an

exclusion...exclusions can be difficult to get around. :/

~alyssa

insurance denial

> I went to the website for my insurance company, and this is what they

> had to say: It exculdes...

>

> " any surgical procedure intended primarily for treatment of morbid

> obesity, including gastric bypass and jejunal bypass or complications

> of bypass surgery. Also, weight loss programs or clinics that utilize

> very low calorie supplement in any form, such as liquid or pre-

> packaged food and all related laboratory or diagnostic testing,

> vitamins or medications. "

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This is Humana HMO... grrrrr!!! I just get so angry!

I'd get a job for insurance of my own, but i'm already working 3 part-

time to pay for school... if i had to worry about insurance premiums

on top of that, I think i'd go crazy! I hate to do it, but i may

have to wait another 2 or so years till I graduate and get a real job

and insurance of my own.... But i really don't want to wait that

long... who knows what i could look like in 3 years at this rate...

> Wow. Brutal. And what, pray tell, is the name of this

> compassionate and forward thinking insurance company so I

> can warn my children and their children's children away from

> them! :[

>

> Jean.

>

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Does your mom have an option of Humana PPO? That's what I have and I

was approved about three weeks ago without any problems. Or does she

have some other PPO she can pick from. They seem to be a lot better

about paying. I'm not sure where you saw that exclusion on their

website but also check your individual policy. The policies vary alot

it's possible what you saw on the web weren't specific to your policy.

I know information for our policy (Employer's Health) isn't

available on the web.

>

> This is Humana HMO... grrrrr!!! I just get so angry!

> I'd get a job for insurance of my own, but i'm already working 3 part-

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This is from my individual policy. I had to log into their network

to get access to it. What is a PPO? I've never had that. We were

part of Family Health Plan until that went belly up and her company

switched to Humana. It really sucks! I had to give up the PCP that

I'd had since I was 9.

> Does your mom have an option of Humana PPO? That's what I have and

I

> was approved about three weeks ago without any problems.

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> This is from my individual policy. I had to log into their network

> to get access to it. What is a PPO? I've never had that. We were

> part of Family Health Plan until that went belly up and her company

> switched to Humana. It really sucks! I had to give up the PCP that

> I'd had since I was 9.

>

I forgot exactly what the letters stand for but basically they allow

you to see doctors that are not part of the group but you will pay

more if you do. WIth an HMO you have to get a referal to see a

specialist or go out of network with a PPO you can see whoever you

want. I hate changing doctors too. My husband changes jobs about

once a year so I'm forever trying to find new doctors. I found one I

really really liked and had her for about nine months and I haven't

been able to go back since the last 5 insurances we have had didn't

cover her. My husband is good and finding insurances I don't like.

While I'm not thrilled with my choices of in network doctors with

Humana. I will say they have been very good about paying the bills.

Much better than some of them that we have had.

Talk to your mom and see if she has some options. Good luck with your

search.

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In a message dated 11/6/01 3:54:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, ctybnd@...

writes:

<< A PPO is Preferred Provider Org. Basically it mean if you go to a

provider the insurance company prefers, they will pay more of your

bill. That's what we have and have had no problems at all. >>

Hi, I think some PPO's must be different than others. with my PPO if I go to

a Preffered Provider (in network so to speak) the dr or hospital is required

to accept whatever the insurance pays, and not ask the patient for more. One

reason I like it is because it's not an HMO. I don't need approval from a PCP

to see a specialist.

Sheryl

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A PPO is Preferred Provider Org. Basically it mean if you go to a

provider the insurance company prefers, they will pay more of your

bill. That's what we have and have had no problems at all.

> > This is from my individual policy. I had to log into their

network

> > to get access to it. What is a PPO? I've never had that. We

were

> > part of Family Health Plan until that went belly up and her

company

> > switched to Humana. It really sucks! I had to give up the PCP

that

> > I'd had since I was 9.

> >

>

> I forgot exactly what the letters stand for but basically they allow

> you to see doctors that are not part of the group but you will pay

> more if you do. WIth an HMO you have to get a referal to see a

> specialist or go out of network with a PPO you can see whoever you

> want. I hate changing doctors too. My husband changes jobs about

> once a year so I'm forever trying to find new doctors. I found one

I

> really really liked and had her for about nine months and I haven't

> been able to go back since the last 5 insurances we have had didn't

> cover her. My husband is good and finding insurances I don't like.

> While I'm not thrilled with my choices of in network doctors with

> Humana. I will say they have been very good about paying the

bills.

> Much better than some of them that we have had.

>

> Talk to your mom and see if she has some options. Good luck with

your

> search.

>

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