Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi Cara, Don't worry, those feelings are completely normal. My wife and I feel bad that we did not know more, but honestly I don't think pediatricians and doctors know enough yet to advise people regarding the importance of tummy time. I think all new parents should be warned of torticollis and plagiocephaly and how best to avoid problems. We had no clue and we even read lots of books during my wife's pregnancy. Some doctors just do not believe in the band, but I believe it is a big mistake to not be proactive. Better to use it than wait until they are 2 years old and realize nothing can be done. Our son has torticollis as well and plagiocephaly. We went to occupational therapy for his torticollis, but can no longer go since we reached our 20 visit annual limit. The visits helped, but not as much as persistent at-home exercises and in reality we didn't notice much difference until our son could sit up and roll over on his own. We only really work on two exercises, one to turn his head to the right and the other to bend his head to his left shoulder, each once or twice per day. Our son has been in the Hanger orthotic for almost 3 weeks and the orthotist told us two days ago he was getting better surprisingly fast. We are very encouraged. His ears however are asymmetrical and they say they will probably not improve for years, not until he reaches 12 or so, which is understandable now that I know more about plagiocephaly. Before the orthotic we would rotate our sons head once before we went to bed, not sure if it helped much, but it possibly reduced the rate at which things got worse. Once our son got the helmet we stopped rotating his head within a week, partially because he moves his head around a lot now anyway and also because the head rotation does not matter from a plagiocephaly standpoint anymore. The weight is distributed pretty evenly across the helmet so the pressure points are not as direct thereby preventing worsening of the plagiocephaly. If you feel that you need to rotate the head to help the torticollis and stretch the muscles a little, then I can understand that but given your baby will not stay asleep I would avoid it. I am sure this is tough as I know how hard it was to watch our son go to sleep with his head turned the " wrong " way, but have faith in the band, it will do it's job and the torticollis will get better. Unfortunately, these conditions really go hand in hand and it's tough to fix one without the other. To help with the torticollis though, I would get a referral for occupational therapy visits to get that started on the right track so you feel more comfortable with your exercises at home and to get an opinion from a therapist who is experienced with torticollis. I think that covers it! Best of luck! - > > Hello, > > My name is Cara and I have a six and a half month old baby girl Lia. About 4 months ago I noticed that my baby's head was flat and brought it to the attention of my pediatrician she said that it was positional plagiocephaly and to not lay Lia on her head as much and give her plenty of tummy time. Since my baby was 5 weeks old she has been an excellent sleeper she slept in her swing (which now if I knew would never have allowed) and slept 8 hours at night (and she is an exclusively breast fed infant)! Needless to say we were thrilled but noticed that her head was getting worse. Lia's doc said to take her out of the swing immediately and to put her in her crib. We did so and it it took about a week for Lia to adjust but she was fine and continued to sleep through the night. At Lia's 4 month visit (which was actually at 5 months) since her doc's office didn't have any openings until that time I again discussed with Lia's doctor the fact that Lia is only allowed to be on her back for sleep now and that we always keep her on her tummy, her exersaucer or her bumbo seat all the other times and when we go out we remove her as quickly as possible from her carseat but her head is still persistently flat and her ears are now sticking out and uneven. The doc said not to worry that her head would fix itself as it grows and her ears if she didn't grow into them she could always have surgery later down the road. Needless to say I wasn't comfortable with this response and asked for the specialists name and number and called myself to make an appointment. Once we arrived he too told me that if we were to do nothing Lia's head would improve and that she has torticollis as well and that we needed to do stretching exercises. He gave me a referral to Cranial technologies to get a consultation for a docband. I went and they said Lia would definitely benefit from the band. After dealing with insurance issues Lia is going to be fitted on 8/11 and will get her band on 8/25. I feel really bad about all of this like its my fault. I also so scared that she will look abnormal and children will pick on her. I am not superficial and do not mean to sound superficial but I just want her to have a happy life and not be picked on for something I as her mother should have been better informed about and prevented. Is it normal to feel this way and does it get better? > > Also, she still sleeps 12-13 hours a night now and refuses to let me turn her head off of her flat spot. I have tried several nights and she wakes up screaming and won't go back to sleep for hours. I feel terrible waking her up every couple of hours and its also very ineffective because she won't keep her head in the other position. I bought a sleep positioner and our pediatrician told us not to use it EVER and Never put anything in her crib with her. If she gets her band and refuses to sleep in a different position will it still help her head? Does anyone have any other ideas what to do? Also, please advise about tortiocollis I was only given exercises to do at home and I don't think I am qualified to be the only person to treat this. Please help. Thanks. > Cara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi Cara, We've had a very similar experience with our son, who is also 6.5 months now. We noticed the flatness at about 7-8 weeks, didn't get much help from pediatrician or specialist...just a couple of stretching exercises for the torticollis and the encouragement that all of this would likely resolve on its own. I haven't been on this board for too long myself, but that seems to be a common thread running through many parent's stories. Anyway, we kept him off of his head as best we could, repositioned as best we could and none of that helped. Like your daughter, Cade would move right back to that flat spot to sleep (his favorite position) or cry because we woke him up. It was frustrating. We went on our own to Cranial Tech at end of May and he got his DOC Band on 6/18. Yesterday marked our fifth week in the band. He's doing great in it - adjusted easily and his head already looks so much better. We, too, wish we had known about torticollis and plagio but we didn't...and now we're doing everything we can to resolve it so it won't be an issue for him later. When you start to see her progress and improvement once she's in her band, I think you'll start to feel better, too...and you'll be so encouraged when that little flat area starts to look round again. One thing I didn't see mentioned in your post below was anything about physical therapy for the torticollis. It doesn't sound like that has been recommended yet. It was for us, and while we only go once a month, we come home with lots of different stretches to work on. And then the PT can check his progress after a few weeks and give us more to work on. That has really helped us - and I think also improved his flexibility and rotation tremendously. We do LOTS of stretching at home...sometimes it feels like that's all we do! He no longer favors that right side for sleeping...still sleeps on it some, but about half the time, he's turned to his left side. I feel pretty sure that's because of all the stretching we've done and continue to do. Now he CAN turn comfortably to his left, something he couldn't do before. Amy at Cranial Tech here in Austin also gave us some good stretches to do - so you might ask them about that at your next appointment. My understanding is that with the helmet on, they can sleep on that flat side and it won't get worse. That's nice to know...but I still cringe a little when he's on his right side even with the helmet. Habit, I guess...after worrying about it for several months prior to banding. :-) Hope some part of our experience is helpful to you. Once she gets going in the band and you start to see things improving, I really think you're going to feel so much better. So hang in there...and let us know how you're doing in a few weeks! Jill Cade's mom, 6.5 mo, DOCBand 6/18/09 Austin, Texas > > Hello, > > My name is Cara and I have a six and a half month old baby girl Lia. About 4 months ago I noticed that my baby's head was flat and brought it to the attention of my pediatrician she said that it was positional plagiocephaly and to not lay Lia on her head as much and give her plenty of tummy time. Since my baby was 5 weeks old she has been an excellent sleeper she slept in her swing (which now if I knew would never have allowed) and slept 8 hours at night (and she is an exclusively breast fed infant)! Needless to say we were thrilled but noticed that her head was getting worse. Lia's doc said to take her out of the swing immediately and to put her in her crib. We did so and it it took about a week for Lia to adjust but she was fine and continued to sleep through the night. At Lia's 4 month visit (which was actually at 5 months) since her doc's office didn't have any openings until that time I again discussed with Lia's doctor the fact that Lia is only allowed to be on her back for sleep now and that we always keep her on her tummy, her exersaucer or her bumbo seat all the other times and when we go out we remove her as quickly as possible from her carseat but her head is still persistently flat and her ears are now sticking out and uneven. The doc said not to worry that her head would fix itself as it grows and her ears if she didn't grow into them she could always have surgery later down the road. Needless to say I wasn't comfortable with this response and asked for the specialists name and number and called myself to make an appointment. Once we arrived he too told me that if we were to do nothing Lia's head would improve and that she has torticollis as well and that we needed to do stretching exercises. He gave me a referral to Cranial technologies to get a consultation for a docband. I went and they said Lia would definitely benefit from the band. After dealing with insurance issues Lia is going to be fitted on 8/11 and will get her band on 8/25. I feel really bad about all of this like its my fault. I also so scared that she will look abnormal and children will pick on her. I am not superficial and do not mean to sound superficial but I just want her to have a happy life and not be picked on for something I as her mother should have been better informed about and prevented. Is it normal to feel this way and does it get better? > > Also, she still sleeps 12-13 hours a night now and refuses to let me turn her head off of her flat spot. I have tried several nights and she wakes up screaming and won't go back to sleep for hours. I feel terrible waking her up every couple of hours and its also very ineffective because she won't keep her head in the other position. I bought a sleep positioner and our pediatrician told us not to use it EVER and Never put anything in her crib with her. If she gets her band and refuses to sleep in a different position will it still help her head? Does anyone have any other ideas what to do? Also, please advise about tortiocollis I was only given exercises to do at home and I don't think I am qualified to be the only person to treat this. Please help. Thanks. > Cara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hello there. I felt the same as you - that it was something I did wrong. Our daughter's first daycare kept her in her car seat every day (all day), and her head obviously got flat. Emmy's head was off by 8.4mm. She's been in her Starband for about 2 and a half months now and is down to 3mm. She's older - got her helmet at 9 and a half months and is now almost a year - but I'm happy with the results we've gotten thus far. Emmy's favorite way to sleep is on her flat spot. She's slept through the night since she was 3 months and like your little one, doesn't like repositioning at night. The helmet will help at night. It doesn't bother me anymore that she sleeps on the flat side, since she has her 'hat' on. I was really upset about her wearing the band, and didn't want people to stare. Well, they will, but I've found that by decorating Emmy's 'hat' it has helped a lot. She currently has monkey stickers on it. It doesn't seem as 'medical' when it looks cute. An additional worry for me is that I'm teaching my daughter how to sign, so not only is she in the helmet, but people see her signing and me signing to her. But most people will look and move on, some will ask, and a small amount will be rude and whisper. But I've found it's gotten easier as she's had it longer, since I know what people often ask. She also hasnt' lost her outgoing personality, so that helps. Keep in mind that your baby just thinks people are looking at her because she's cute. Yes, it's bothersome to the parent, but you know you are doing the right thing. Besides, better to have people stare at her now when she won't remember it than when she's a teenager and can't get a date. It's good you caught it early, and trust yourself. You're making the right choice. If people are rude, just tell them she's a skateboarder! > > Hello, > > My name is Cara and I have a six and a half month old baby girl Lia. About 4 months ago I noticed that my baby's head was flat and brought it to the attention of my pediatrician she said that it was positional plagiocephaly and to not lay Lia on her head as much and give her plenty of tummy time. Since my baby was 5 weeks old she has been an excellent sleeper she slept in her swing (which now if I knew would never have allowed) and slept 8 hours at night (and she is an exclusively breast fed infant)! Needless to say we were thrilled but noticed that her head was getting worse. Lia's doc said to take her out of the swing immediately and to put her in her crib. We did so and it it took about a week for Lia to adjust but she was fine and continued to sleep through the night. At Lia's 4 month visit (which was actually at 5 months) since her doc's office didn't have any openings until that time I again discussed with Lia's doctor the fact that Lia is only allowed to be on her back for sleep now and that we always keep her on her tummy, her exersaucer or her bumbo seat all the other times and when we go out we remove her as quickly as possible from her carseat but her head is still persistently flat and her ears are now sticking out and uneven. The doc said not to worry that her head would fix itself as it grows and her ears if she didn't grow into them she could always have surgery later down the road. Needless to say I wasn't comfortable with this response and asked for the specialists name and number and called myself to make an appointment. Once we arrived he too told me that if we were to do nothing Lia's head would improve and that she has torticollis as well and that we needed to do stretching exercises. He gave me a referral to Cranial technologies to get a consultation for a docband. I went and they said Lia would definitely benefit from the band. After dealing with insurance issues Lia is going to be fitted on 8/11 and will get her band on 8/25. I feel really bad about all of this like its my fault. I also so scared that she will look abnormal and children will pick on her. I am not superficial and do not mean to sound superficial but I just want her to have a happy life and not be picked on for something I as her mother should have been better informed about and prevented. Is it normal to feel this way and does it get better? > > Also, she still sleeps 12-13 hours a night now and refuses to let me turn her head off of her flat spot. I have tried several nights and she wakes up screaming and won't go back to sleep for hours. I feel terrible waking her up every couple of hours and its also very ineffective because she won't keep her head in the other position. I bought a sleep positioner and our pediatrician told us not to use it EVER and Never put anything in her crib with her. If she gets her band and refuses to sleep in a different position will it still help her head? Does anyone have any other ideas what to do? Also, please advise about tortiocollis I was only given exercises to do at home and I don't think I am qualified to be the only person to treat this. Please help. Thanks. > Cara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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