Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 It was a nice seminar...a bit disorganized, but there was plenty of information. One thing that surprised me, the number of post-ops who didn't know how to manage their new lives with WLS. Most in attendance were post-op, and judging by their (repeat) questions, they were not as prepped as Kaiser patients are. They did this one thing which was neat. They had everyone stand (I didn't 'cause I am such a rebel/jerk) and as weight totals were announced (5,10, 15...) had people sit down. Once they got to 100, they asked all those folks to go up front. Laurie and Kay were there. (Yeay!) I estimated a little over 200 total attendance and about 50 who had hit the century mark. They got down to 200+ and there were six. It ended with one guy who (and Laurie, Rosemarie or Kay...correct me if I am wrong) had lost 325 lbs and is still losing. > > > I just got in from the Obesity Help conference in > Fairfield and lunch with Vitalady and Vitaguy. I met > and got to see Rosemarie again. It was a > wonderful day! Good info and good company! > Laurie > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 this is very much needed to know information as it has been said that after 18 months whatever weight you are going to lose will be lost by then and it had also been said that the most a person would lose is 150-200 pounds. Thanks for the info. Pam Marsh --- wrote: > It was a nice seminar...a bit disorganized, but > there was plenty of > information. One thing that surprised me, the > number of post-ops > who didn't know how to manage their new lives with > WLS. Most in > attendance were post-op, and judging by their > (repeat) questions, > they were not as prepped as Kaiser patients are. > > They did this one thing which was neat. They had > everyone stand (I > didn't 'cause I am such a rebel/jerk) and as weight > totals were > announced (5,10, 15...) had people sit down. Once > they got to 100, > they asked all those folks to go up front. Laurie > and Kay were > there. (Yeay!) I estimated a little over 200 total > attendance and > about 50 who had hit the century mark. They got > down to 200+ and > there were six. It ended with one guy who (and > Laurie, Rosemarie or > Kay...correct me if I am wrong) had lost 325 lbs and > is still losing. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got in from the Obesity Help conference in > > Fairfield and lunch with Vitalady and Vitaguy. I > met > > and got to see Rosemarie again. It was a > > wonderful day! Good info and good company! > > Laurie > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hi , I didn't spot you or I'd have come over to say howdy. I seemed to have been having a brainless day in some ways. I ran into Laurie and didn't even recognize her - even though it hasn't been long since I last saw her. I wonder how many others were there I missed just because my mind seems to have missing on a few cylinders. You're right - the last guy standing had lost well over 300 and was still losing. There were 5 of us who lost over 200 pounds each. The speakers were certainly varied. Some I thought were really good and couple of them need improvement in my not-so-humble opinion. I thought that Dr. Cirangle, who did the presentation about the nutritional issues we face long-term post-op, had tons of great info - but I do so wish that he had had hand-outs. There was too much for me to take notes and keep up. Dr. Ganz, who directed the event, was wonderful. I love her style - she speaks openly and sincerely, with humor used to convey serious points. It is presentation style I hope to emulate. I was impressed with Dr. Katzen. His approach to plastic surgery for weight loss patients is really well thought out and he seems to pay attention to subtleties. I had a consultation with him after the meeting. I would love for him to do my legs. All I need is a major cash windfall . . . sigh . . . oh well. The "life coach" who spoke in the morning just struck me as though she doing an infomercial. And Lori Cochran, who spoke in the afternoon about long-term success rules, seemed to be talking to us like we were children. I don't know how she seemed to you - but some of those around me did say that they felt she was talking down to us. Good info, but it is her delivery that needs work. Overall, I certainly think it was a worthwhile experience. Even the speakers that I didn't particularly enjoy had a point or two or a bit of imagery that I found helpful. I'd love to hear what others thought of the conference. Take care, Kay (in San Leandro) open RNY 12/1/03 wrote: It was a nice seminar...a bit disorganized, but there was plenty of information. One thing that surprised me, the number of post-ops who didn't know how to manage their new lives with WLS. Most in attendance were post-op, and judging by their (repeat) questions, they were not as prepped as Kaiser patients are. They did this one thing which was neat. They had everyone stand (I didn't 'cause I am such a rebel/jerk) and as weight totals were announced (5,10, 15...) had people sit down. Once they got to 100, they asked all those folks to go up front. Laurie and Kay were there. (Yeay!) I estimated a little over 200 total attendance and about 50 who had hit the century mark. They got down to 200+ and there were six. It ended with one guy who (and Laurie, Rosemarie or Kay...correct me if I am wrong) had lost 325 lbs and is still losing. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Just a comment, we don't know what type of weight loss surgery this man had. He could have had a distal RNY or he could have had the duodenal switch. Of course, he may have had a proximal RNY as well. Laurie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 and they stress that there is no magic number with the surgery.... you cannot compare to anyone else...it is all individual and also following the food plan, exercise, age, body type etc etc... bLLLORY@... wrote: Just a comment, we don't know what type of weight losssurgery this man had. He could have had a distal RNYor he could have had the duodenal switch. Of course,he may have had a proximal RNY as well.Laurie__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hi Pam, Wow . . . does Kaiser say that the most a person would lose is 150-200 pounds? I hope not. I have met a couple of folks who lost over 400 pounds each. In fact, if memory serves me right, Dr. Ganz (the OH events director) said that she had lost over 400. I've met a handful of folks who have lost over 300 and there seems to be a goodly number of us 200+ losers. It is true that once the honeymoon period is over that weight loss will not be as easy, but it certainly can be done. One of the ladies in the San Leandro support group had her surgery over 10 years ago (I think) and had gained back a lot through 2 pregnancies - but she has been going back to basics and has lost it again. I'm not sure that there are any absolute limits that would apply to everybody. All the best, Kay (in San Leandro) open RNY 12/1/03 Pamela A Marsh wrote: this is very much needed to know information as it has been said that after 18 months whatever weight you are going to lose will be lost by then and it had also been said that the most a person would lose is 150-200 pounds. Thanks for the info. Pam Marsh .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Hi Kay! I agree eith you, I loved Dr. Ganz. Her enthusiasm and sincerity made her a great speaker. I also very much enjoyed Dr. Katzen, I guess because the PS stage is pretty much where I am right now. I didn't get a consult there, but I got a card to get a free consult in his office. I'm thinking I might go to the Visalia conference just to get another opportunity for a consult from him. We shall see. I liked lyn, the life coach. Enjoyed her style of speaking as well. Not sure I gained much from her, but she was an enjoyable speaker. Dr. Cirangle I thought had the best nutritional info of any doctor I have heard speak, or certainly better than our Kaiser docs (in my opinion), but I still thought he might have been lacking a little. I missed the beginning of his presentation because I wasn't back from lunch with the VitaCouple yet. Drat. Lori Cochran...I just couldn't concentrate because of her voice and her inflections. Yes, I felt she was speaking down. Couldn't tell you if she had any info I would have found valuable or not, unfortunately. Kay, I'm sorry I didn't mention you in my original post. Guess I had a brain fart. Too bad we didn't get to chat more. Your comment about me looking thin made my day! So thank you. Oh, and Dr. Elliot...I was put off by him and his pouch rules. I don't think they are practical. This is a change for a lifetime, and nobody can be so rigid, or even try, for a lifetime. That's why I loved so much, and her rebuttals at the end. LOL. We can't expect perfection, but moderation. Balance. And what works for one may not for the next. I think those are points that our surgeons often just don't believe or accept. That's my take on things. Thanks, Laurie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Did you guys pay for this conference, or was it free? Kristie ---- LLLORY@... wrote: > Hi Kay! I agree eith you, I loved Dr. Ganz. Her > enthusiasm and sincerity made her a great speaker. I > also very much enjoyed Dr. Katzen, I guess because the > PS stage is pretty much where I am right now. I > didn't get a consult there, but I got a card to get a > free consult in his office. I'm thinking I might go > to the Visalia conference just to get another > opportunity for a consult from him. We shall see. > > I liked lyn, the life coach. Enjoyed her style > of speaking as well. Not sure I gained much from her, > but she was an enjoyable speaker. > > Dr. Cirangle I thought had the best nutritional info > of any doctor I have heard speak, or certainly better > than our Kaiser docs (in my opinion), but I still > thought he might have been lacking a little. I missed > the beginning of his presentation because I wasn't > back from lunch with the VitaCouple yet. Drat. > > Lori Cochran...I just couldn't concentrate because of > her voice and her inflections. Yes, I felt she was > speaking down. Couldn't tell you if she had any info > I would have found valuable or not, unfortunately. > > Kay, I'm sorry I didn't mention you in my original > post. Guess I had a brain fart. Too bad we didn't > get to chat more. Your comment about me looking thin > made my day! So thank you. > > Oh, and Dr. Elliot...I was put off by him and his > pouch rules. I don't think they are practical. This > is a change for a lifetime, and nobody can be so > rigid, or even try, for a lifetime. That's why I > loved so much, and her rebuttals at the end. > LOL. We can't expect perfection, but moderation. > Balance. And what works for one may not for the next. > I think those are points that our surgeons often just > don't believe or accept. > > That's my take on things. > > Thanks, > Laurie > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 also we were told percentages NOT numbers whenever anyone asked as they cannot quantifiy the lb but they said it averages on a percentage basis they could and again it depends on age, size, where you carry wt, water, exercise, followiing the food plan etc another reason to use the 1200 food plan to for your 10% so it will be a snap to transition to the life long food plan.Kay wrote: Hi Pam,Wow . . . does Kaiser say that the most a person would lose is 150-200 pounds? I hope not.I have met a couple of folks who lost over 400 pounds each. In fact, if memory serves me right, Dr. Ganz (the OH events director) said that she had lost over 400. I've met a handful of folks who have lost over 300 and there seems to be a goodly number of us 200+ losers.It is true that once the honeymoon period is over that weight loss will not be as easy, but it certainly can be done. One of the ladies in the San Leandro support group had her surgery over 10 years ago (I think) and had gained back a lot through 2 pregnancies - but she has been going back to basics and has lost it again.I'm not sure that there are any absolute limits that would apply to everybody.All the best,Kay (in San Leandro)open RNY 12/1/03Pamela A Marsh wrote: this is very much needed to know information asit has been said that after 18 months whatever weightyou are going to lose will be lost by then and it hadalso been said that the most a person would lose is150-200 pounds. Thanks for the info.Pam Marsh <> . Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 $45.00 > > Hi Kay! I agree eith you, I loved Dr. Ganz. Her > > enthusiasm and sincerity made her a great speaker. I > > also very much enjoyed Dr. Katzen, I guess because the > > PS stage is pretty much where I am right now. I > > didn't get a consult there, but I got a card to get a > > free consult in his office. I'm thinking I might go > > to the Visalia conference just to get another > > opportunity for a consult from him. We shall see. > > > > I liked lyn, the life coach. Enjoyed her style > > of speaking as well. Not sure I gained much from her, > > but she was an enjoyable speaker. > > > > Dr. Cirangle I thought had the best nutritional info > > of any doctor I have heard speak, or certainly better > > than our Kaiser docs (in my opinion), but I still > > thought he might have been lacking a little. I missed > > the beginning of his presentation because I wasn't > > back from lunch with the VitaCouple yet. Drat. > > > > Lori Cochran...I just couldn't concentrate because of > > her voice and her inflections. Yes, I felt she was > > speaking down. Couldn't tell you if she had any info > > I would have found valuable or not, unfortunately. > > > > Kay, I'm sorry I didn't mention you in my original > > post. Guess I had a brain fart. Too bad we didn't > > get to chat more. Your comment about me looking thin > > made my day! So thank you. > > > > Oh, and Dr. Elliot...I was put off by him and his > > pouch rules. I don't think they are practical. This > > is a change for a lifetime, and nobody can be so > > rigid, or even try, for a lifetime. That's why I > > loved so much, and her rebuttals at the end. > > LOL. We can't expect perfection, but moderation. > > Balance. And what works for one may not for the next. > > I think those are points that our surgeons often just > > don't believe or accept. > > > > That's my take on things. > > > > Thanks, > > Laurie > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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