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Randy I remember when my second son was born at 6 months (28 weeks gestation) he was 1 pound 13 ozs, then within days down to 1 pound 4 ozs he only had 25% chance of making it (this was 21 years ago), when he finally came home 4 months later, he was on oxygen, heart monitor, IV's, (oh how do you deal with all the machines), plus his brother when he came home was only 23 months. They are 19 months apart due to my youngest coming early. I had lost 4 children before finally having these 2. Then my first I was bedridden for 9 months, I gained 75 pounds, my son was to big for me to deliver 10 pounds 12 ozs, had a c- section and within 2 days was severely sick with such a high fever, I had staff infection, another surgery with 8 drains put in me, in the hospital for 3 weeks, just as we went home my son started projectile (spelling?) vomiting, he could vomit all the way across the room. He had pyloric stignosis, his stomach had closed

and his food had no where to go but back up, he had surgery. Then I was pregnant way to soon, and yes I was on birth control. Pregnancies just didn't do well with me, always a surprise and many complications. Anyways my second son was this little premature baby, with so many complications, he had a bad brain bleed, heart problems (had heart surgery), hernia (had surgery), was on the oxygen and heart monitor for 10 months, I was told not to expect him to be normal due to the brain bleed, on the oxygen so long, and his heart stopped 2 times and I was able to bring him back, but he was a fighter and I'm a fighter. I didn't think I could at the time make it though all this. On top of all this, this is when my husband's dad died and my husband couldn't take the stress overload and started having all his mental illness, panic attacks, depression and more. I tried to do all I could to keep life as a happy normal (what's normal?) life, you know

enjoy each day, think of the positives and not all the negatives. My son was alive and all we could do is hope for the best for each of us in this family. Enjoy each other, and what the beauty in the world had to offer even during these hard times. I did load up my son with all his machines and we still got out to go places like a walk in the park, a picnic at the beach, more simple things, but not just staying house bond. With time my boys got very healthy, my husband just got worse with his mental illness and very angry to us and the world, I became co-dependent trying to fix all the problems trying to make it better for him, and of course just giving up everything for me, becoming very unhappy, and obese. I keep working on my husbands problems with him seeing many doctors, psychologist, behavior classes. Then also started taking control of my life again, and thinking of me having the WLS, seeing psychologist and not being

co-dependent, but still being there for my husband and boys. My husband did not like that I wanted to go exercise, or do things for me, he thought he was left out, he just wasn't I still did everything as a wife, but his depression had caused him to be so much house bond and he didn't want me to leave anywhere. This caused us to split, and even though I was hoping for help to work on him, he started his addictions again, drinking again bad after he hadn't in 10 years, then now he found someone new. He's known her 2 weeks and has started AA and NA, I was sad he didn't do this for his family and our marriage of 24 years. Then again I am happy that maybe, just maybe he can have a better life, because his mental illness and additions have been really hard over the last 16 to 20 years, some years okay, some so bad, I just wanted our marriage to work and him to be better. It didn't happen, I'm okay and hoping he does start to enjoy life, I'm

actually relieved I'm done having to be there and can live a better life now. My boys are so wonderful, and we have such a nice family the 3 of us, better than with my husband (all the anger). Both boys are healthy, in college, work, have girlfriends and life is better. I start my divorce tomorrow, and I never thought I would be happy to do this. So for you Randy, dear guy who has been going through so much, have faith. I know it's so hard with the tube, but you have been doing better than you thought in the beginning. With the feeding tube are you house bond because of it? Is there anyway you can get out just for short periods of time. Do you enjoy music, watching movies, reading books, working puzzles? There are so many things to do or to try something new like maybe painting a picture. Just try to find things to keep your mind off of how much longer, when life will be back to normal (what's normal?), take each

situation and make it for the best and in the end you will win out. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there. Take care. Donna Jjackpoint_94401 wrote: Even though I seem to be improving steadily, my doctors are saying I may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since I'm stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would also like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet. Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and

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Wow Donna I can't even imagine going thru what you have endured!

Your strength is an inspiration. Thank you.

Randy

Even though I seem to be

improving steadily, my doctors are saying I

> may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since

I'm

> stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would

also

> like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet.

>

> Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and tethered to

a

> pump?

>

> Randy

>

>

>

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>

>

> Donna Jordon

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Randy This is just a few things, I have had 14 surgeries, I have pieces of hip w screws in my feet, and many things taken out or fixed. I wore cast on both feet at different times with many surgeries for over 5 years. There was sixteen deaths in 1 year, and just about 3 months ago now I lost my dad, and I can add more to this, but you know my fine friend you have to look for the beauty. Sometimes it seems hard, but we must find away. I am now enjoying lots of new adventures. I just got back from Colorado a few weeks ago, I'm checking into parasailing in Aug., I start back to College in Aug., next year 2007 I will be going to China and Japan, then in 2008 I will have my wet socks and bat wings plastic surgery (boobs and arms). SMILE! Always know there is beauty and things could be worse. Take care. Donna Jjackpoint_94401

wrote: Wow Donna I can't even imagine going thru what you have endured! Your strength is an inspiration. Thank you. Randy Even though I seem to be improving steadily, my doctors are saying I > may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since I'm > stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would also > like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet. > > Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and tethered to a > pump? > > Randy > > > > > > > Donna Jordon > > DSJordon@... > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make

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Randy i can't imagine what you are going thru but hang in there and we

will be thinking of you...hugs,dama

>

> Even though I seem to be improving steadily, my doctors are saying I

> may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since I'm

> stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would also

> like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet.

>

> Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and tethered to a

> pump?

>

> Randy

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Donna I see all the beauty I need to see in your post. Again. you

are inspiring. Thank you.

Randy

Even though I seem to be

> improving steadily, my doctors are saying I

> > may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more.

Since

> I'm

> > stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I

would

> also

> > like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet.

> >

> > Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and tethered

to

> a

> > pump?

> >

> > Randy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Donna Jordon

> >

> > DSJordon@

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

> Great rates starting at 1�/min.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Donna Jordon

>

> DSJordon@...

>

> ---------------------------------

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Randy, I hope you can stay upbeat and entertained. I had most of my 25 surgeries on my leg prior to owning a computer.... the later ones after the internet connection was a huge difference... I discovered bored.com, jigzone.com and pogo for some mindless entertainment. I also found a few interesting interactive chat rooms for some shared hobbies and connected with some pen pals throughout the world. One of them is a cancer survivor from a cancer connection website. One of my biggest days? The day I got to go grocery shopping and use the motorized shopping cart...even with my friend constantly pointing out that even the senior citizens moved faster that that cart! But hey even tho i was totally exhausted I got to go out and pick out my own groceries! those are just a few suggestions....Also, if you knit or crotchet there

are programs for caps for kids, premie blankets etc that you can work on....maybe a new hobby? I hope one or two of these helps ya gl Beejackpoint_94401 wrote: Even though I seem to be improving steadily, my doctors are saying I may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since I'm stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would also like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet. Any suggestions on how to

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Randy,

You have every right to feel sorry for yourself and to

feel driven to distraction by boredom. It's normal,

natural, and i can't even imagine how hard it must be.

Just recently, I had to have a lumbar puncture to make

sure that I didn't have spinal menegitis. I wound up

with a spinal fluid leak, and was flat on my back

(literally) for five days. My head hurt so much, I

couldn't read, couldn't watch tv, couldn't listen to

music. It was horrible. Even though I was in

excruciating pain, I was still bored out of my bloody

gourd!!

So, I can imagine that feeling like you are going to

be stuck at home in that way for a long time must be

rough. Is it transportable? I think Donna's

suggestion about going to the beach is an excellent

one. I'm sure your girlfriend would be happy to drive

you there. Getting those ions from the ocean will

restore your soul and your body in a way that little

else can. And please, don't feel worried about " how

it will look " . I mean, this is YOU, this is your

life...you are fighting a battle...and you need your

spirit to be joyful, as strong as possible. People

will view you with compassion...and maybe curiosity,

but it is usually very well-meaning.

Nature can do wonders. Even if you can't walk too

much, or if it is too difficult to go far, you can

still park yourself on a blanket...

Or take a ride up to the wine country, or to the Marin

Headlands, or to the Santa Cruz mountains. There is

so much beauty around us, we are so lucky to be in the

Bay Area.

if it is not portable, talk to your doctors...maybe

there is something you can get that will allow you to

have it be more portable?

If not, at a minimum, make sure you get outside in the

sun a bit, even if it's just on your front or back

porch. You need some Vitamin A.

Randy, I'm not going to even pretend I know what it is

like. Donna, bless her heart, has been through hell

and back, and you are doing the same now. I've been

spared that, thank God. But do know that you are

entitled to feel like crap, and to feel bad and down

and depressed sometimes. And anytime you want to

express those feelings, we are here, and we hear. And

we are praying for and thinking about you.

Do you paint or draw? Do you write? Have you thought

about trying your hand at an online writing course, so

that you can escape into a fictional world of your

own creation...or so that you can journal your

experiences? You write very well, you should think

about it.

I think a creative outlet would help you. This is

your time to develop a new hobby, one that you've

always wanted to try...be it model building or

whittling or a new instrument or water colors....heck,

even getting a huge box of crayons and some coloring

books can be extremely satisfying.

Good luck, brother. We are with you.

Robynn

--- jackpoint_94401 wrote:

> Donna I see all the beauty I need to see in your

> post. Again. you

> are inspiring. Thank you.

>

> Randy

>

>

> > >

> > > Randy

> > > I remember when my second son was born at 6

> months (28 weeks

> > gestation) he was 1 pound 13 ozs, then within

> days down to 1

> pound

> > 4 ozs he only had 25% chance of making it (this

> was 21 years

> ago),

> > when he finally came home 4 months later, he was

> on oxygen, heart

> > monitor, IV's, (oh how do you deal with all the

> machines), plus

> his

> > brother when he came home was only 23 months.

> They are 19 months

> > apart due to my youngest coming early. I had

> lost 4 children

> before

> > finally having these 2. Then my first I was

> bedridden for 9

> months,

> > I gained 75 pounds, my son was to big for me to

> deliver 10 pounds

> 12

> > ozs, had a c- section and within 2 days was

> severely sick with

> such

> > a high fever, I had staff infection, another

> surgery with 8

> drains

> > put in me, in the hospital for 3 weeks, just as

> we went home my

> son

> > started projectile (spelling?) vomiting, he could

> vomit all the

> way

> > across the room. He had pyloric stignosis, his

> stomach had

> closed

> > and his food had no where to go but back up,

> > > he had surgery. Then I was pregnant way to

> soon, and yes I

> was

> > on birth control. Pregnancies just didn't do

> well with me,

> always a

> > surprise and many complications. Anyways my

> second son was this

> > little premature baby, with so many

> complications, he had a bad

> > brain bleed, heart problems (had heart surgery),

> hernia (had

> > surgery), was on the oxygen and heart monitor for

> 10 months, I

> was

> > told not to expect him to be normal due to the

> brain bleed, on

> the

> > oxygen so long, and his heart stopped 2 times and

> I was able to

> > bring him back, but he was a fighter and I'm a

> fighter. I didn't

> > think I could at the time make it though all

> this. On top of all

> > this, this is when my husband's dad died and my

> husband couldn't

> > take the stress overload and started having all

> his mental

> illness,

> > panic attacks, depression and more. I tried to

> do all I could to

> > keep life as a happy normal (what's normal?)

> life, you know enjoy

> > each day, think of the positives and not all the

> negatives. My

> son

> > > was alive and all we could do is hope for the

> best for each of

> us

> > in this family. Enjoy each other, and what the

> beauty in the

> world

> > had to offer even during these hard times. I did

> load up my son

> > with all his machines and we still got out to go

> places like a

> walk

> > in the park, a picnic at the beach, more simple

> things, but not

> just

> > staying house bond. With time my boys got very

> healthy, my

> husband

> > just got worse with his mental illness and very

> angry to us and

> the

> > world, I became co-dependent trying to fix all

> the problems

> trying

> > to make it better for him, and of course just

> giving up

> everything

> > for me, becoming very unhappy, and obese. I keep

> working on my

> > husbands problems with him seeing many doctors,

> psychologist,

> > behavior classes. Then also started taking

> control of my life

> > again, and thinking of me having the WLS, seeing

> psychologist and

> > not being co-dependent, but still being there for

> my husband and

> > boys. My husband did not like that I wanted to

> go exercise,

> > > or do things for me, he thought he was left

> out, he just

> wasn't I

> > still did everything as a wife, but his

> depression had caused him

> to

> > be so much house bond and he didn't want me to

> leave anywhere.

> This

> > caused us to split, and even though I was hoping

> for help to work

> on

> > him, he started his addictions again, drinking

> again bad after he

> > hadn't in 10 years, then now he found someone

> new. He's known

> her 2

> > weeks and has started AA and NA, I was sad he

> didn't do this for

> his

> > family and our marriage of 24 years. Then again

> I am happy that

> > maybe, just maybe he can have a better life,

> because his mental

> > illness and additions have been really hard over

> the last 16 to

> 20

> > years, some years okay, some so bad, I just

> wanted our marriage

> to

> > work and him to be better. It didn't happen, I'm

> okay and hoping

> he

> > does start to enjoy life, I'm actually relieved

> I'm

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Thanks for the tips, Bee. The meds I take for pain, etc., make it

hard for me to concentrate, so I don't watch TV, read, surf the net,

etc., as much as I thought I would be able to. But I'm getting

better, so I'll be able to try your ideas.

Randy

> Even though I seem to be improving steadily, my doctors

are saying I

> may be on the feeding tube for as long as four months more. Since

I'm

> stuck on it 18 hours a day, this prospect is scary to me. I would

also

> like to get back to normal post-bariatric diet.

>

> Any suggestions on how to cope with being shut in and tethered to

a

> pump?

>

> Randy

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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Thanks as always Robynn

Randy

> > > >

> > > > Randy

> > > > I remember when my second son was born at 6

> > months (28 weeks

> > > gestation) he was 1 pound 13 ozs, then within

> > days down to 1

> > pound

> > > 4 ozs he only had 25% chance of making it (this

> > was 21 years

> > ago),

> > > when he finally came home 4 months later, he was

> > on oxygen, heart

> > > monitor, IV's, (oh how do you deal with all the

> > machines), plus

> > his

> > > brother when he came home was only 23 months.

> > They are 19 months

> > > apart due to my youngest coming early. I had

> > lost 4 children

> > before

> > > finally having these 2. Then my first I was

> > bedridden for 9

> > months,

> > > I gained 75 pounds, my son was to big for me to

> > deliver 10 pounds

> > 12

> > > ozs, had a c- section and within 2 days was

> > severely sick with

> > such

> > > a high fever, I had staff infection, another

> > surgery with 8

> > drains

> > > put in me, in the hospital for 3 weeks, just as

> > we went home my

> > son

> > > started projectile (spelling?) vomiting, he could

> > vomit all the

> > way

> > > across the room. He had pyloric stignosis, his

> > stomach had

> > closed

> > > and his food had no where to go but back up,

> > > > he had surgery. Then I was pregnant way to

> > soon, and yes I

> > was

> > > on birth control. Pregnancies just didn't do

> > well with me,

> > always a

> > > surprise and many complications. Anyways my

> > second son was this

> > > little premature baby, with so many

> > complications, he had a bad

> > > brain bleed, heart problems (had heart surgery),

> > hernia (had

> > > surgery), was on the oxygen and heart monitor for

> > 10 months, I

> > was

> > > told not to expect him to be normal due to the

> > brain bleed, on

> > the

> > > oxygen so long, and his heart stopped 2 times and

> > I was able to

> > > bring him back, but he was a fighter and I'm a

> > fighter. I didn't

> > > think I could at the time make it though all

> > this. On top of all

> > > this, this is when my husband's dad died and my

> > husband couldn't

> > > take the stress overload and started having all

> > his mental

> > illness,

> > > panic attacks, depression and more. I tried to

> > do all I could to

> > > keep life as a happy normal (what's normal?)

> > life, you know enjoy

> > > each day, think of the positives and not all the

> > negatives. My

> > son

> > > > was alive and all we could do is hope for the

> > best for each of

> > us

> > > in this family. Enjoy each other, and what the

> > beauty in the

> > world

> > > had to offer even during these hard times. I did

> > load up my son

> > > with all his machines and we still got out to go

> > places like a

> > walk

> > > in the park, a picnic at the beach, more simple

> > things, but not

> > just

> > > staying house bond. With time my boys got very

> > healthy, my

> > husband

> > > just got worse with his mental illness and very

> > angry to us and

> > the

> > > world, I became co-dependent trying to fix all

> > the problems

> > trying

> > > to make it better for him, and of course just

> > giving up

> > everything

> > > for me, becoming very unhappy, and obese. I keep

> > working on my

> > > husbands problems with him seeing many doctors,

> > psychologist,

> > > behavior classes. Then also started taking

> > control of my life

> > > again, and thinking of me having the WLS, seeing

> > psychologist and

> > > not being co-dependent, but still being there for

> > my husband and

> > > boys. My husband did not like that I wanted to

> > go exercise,

> > > > or do things for me, he thought he was left

> > out, he just

> > wasn't I

> > > still did everything as a wife, but his

> > depression had caused him

> > to

> > > be so much house bond and he didn't want me to

> > leave anywhere.

> > This

> > > caused us to split, and even though I was hoping

> > for help to work

> > on

> > > him, he started his addictions again, drinking

> > again bad after he

> > > hadn't in 10 years, then now he found someone

> > new. He's known

> > her 2

> > > weeks and has started AA and NA, I was sad he

> > didn't do this for

> > his

> > > family and our marriage of 24 years. Then again

> > I am happy that

> > > maybe, just maybe he can have a better life,

> > because his mental

> > > illness and additions have been really hard over

> > the last 16 to

> > 20

> > > years, some years okay, some so bad, I just

> > wanted our marriage

> > to

> > > work and him to be better. It didn't happen, I'm

> > okay and hoping

> > he

> > > does start to enjoy life, I'm actually relieved

> > I'm

> === message truncated ===

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