Re: OK...are you all ready for a shock?

[Guest guest]

RobynnI have a daycare family who went through this, Rick from United States, married from Mexico. Rick had 1 child, 2 children she was here illegally. Then they decided to make it all right. When Rick married they were all one happy family, then they filled papers and went to Mexico to get her visa for the States. She was turned down, she had to stay in Mexico. The 2 children where given visa and received citizenship right away. Rick came back with all the children, had to stay in Mexico. They said it would be 9 months or longer to get a visa. Rick hired a immigration lawyer, and started writing letters to Senators, Governor anyone and everyone in office, he received lots of letters back. It was hardship letter on how bad the children were doing without their mother, the process really speed up when some of these officials got involved. was back in the states in 3 months and is now a

citizen. Has taken her driver test and past. Is in college, works and pays taxes. Loves the United States, has learned to speak English really pretty good, she is giving it her all. A happy ending to another love story. Not sure this would help, but the hardship letters really did help. Take care. You're in my prayers for everything. Donna JRobynn VanPatten wrote: Hey Laurie... Unfortunately, he isn't here yet. He was here for 3 months on a tourist visa waiver, and then he had

to leave in mid-April. We met up in New York for a long weekend over Memorial Day (May 25-30), and I just got back from a three week vacation over in France with him (June 29-July 18.) We are trying to figure out the next steps...they are a little complicated for immigration purposes... Essentially, if we get married over in France, I petition to request that he can come over because he is my husband. We have absolutely NO idea how long that takes...it depends upon the bureaucrats. He can't visit here in the meantime. Essentially, by going that route, he may not even be able to come for the birth. Another option is to apply for a fiance visa, where he can come over and we have to get married within three months. That is supposed to be faster, but California is backlogged and it can take up to 6 to 9 months because of the backlog...and you reallly don't have access to the people to

beg them to speed it up...although I suppose we could add additional documents like letters from my doctors saying I really need him to come ASAP...but who knows if that will make a difference. And again, there is risk that he couldn't come to visit after the application has been made...he could be turned away at the border during the pending visa. So...we're trying to figure out the best approach. It isn't easy...please send positive thoughts and prayers our way as we try to figure this all out. Robynn --- LLLORY (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: > Congrats Robynn!!! Best of luck to all of you. Is > currently in the states? I hope he's here to > go > through all of this with you. If I missed that info > in your post, please forgive me. I read it a few > hours ago, but waited till I had a little more time > to >

answer. Aren't baby ultrasounds cool? > Laurie > > > __________________________________________________ >

[Guest guest]

Robynn, wow, what a lot of red tape. I hope it goes

quickly and smoothly for you. As quickly as possible,

that is. My neice married a Frenchman, and although

he was here as a student, I remember the trouble they

went through with green card stuff. Seems that they

had a lawyer and had to go to Chicago occasionally. I

don't really remember the what-for's anymore. They

have been together for eight or nine years now.

Anyway, sorry for rambling, and best of luck to you.

Laurie

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[Guest guest]

Hi Robynn....

CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!

Gordy

>

> So...I have a little news that I've been holding on to for several

weeks now...and even

> though it's early yet...I decided I needed to come clean with you

all...since you are my

> friends and you have been through so much with me in my journey so

far.

>

> I had the surgery on June 8th, a year ago...and from the date I

started orientation to today,

> I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking at the BMI chart)

still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look overweight. At 5'6 " , I

wear a size 8, and I weigh

> about 157.

>

> I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome when I

was 20...meaning that

> getting pregnant for me was going to be very tough, and especially,

given my advanced

> age, likely to require medical intervention.

>

> I think I shared with you that while and I visited our friends

in New York over Memorial

> Day, we totally flipped out over their 14 month old little girl,

and we decided FOR SURE

> that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So, we talked about it,

decided that he would go

> to the doctor when he got home to make sure his boys were strong

swimmers, etc...., he

> bought some mega vitamins for me that are supposed to help with

fertility, I bought the

> same thing for women, an ovulation kit (because I ovulate

irregularly, I've never known

> when and/or if I ovulate), I made an appointment with UCSF

infertility clinic to try and see

> if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

>

> The day i got back, I had my one year check up with Dr. Fischer. I

told him that I'd like to

> try and get pregnant, and i know that they usually say you should

wait for 2 years

> post...but, was it ok if I got started? He said that my bloodwork

was excellent, my folic

> acid was way up there (important for baby development) and that my

weight had been

> essentially stable for 6 months...so I could go ahead. He said my

weight was fine where it

> was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real full court press to lose

another 5 to 10 lbs, just to

> give myself a little wiggle room when I was pregnant.

>

> In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar puncture and got super

sick, I had a pelvic

> sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little polyp in my uterus, and

she wanted me to

> come back in6 weeks later to see if it had grown, and if it was

problematic. The sonagram

> was scheduled two days after I got back from New York.

>

> The polyp was still there, and after I told her I wanted to try

aggressive measures to try

> and get pregnant, she said, " Well, the polyp can make it difficult

for an implantation to

> work...so we should go in and take it out. " The problem with that,

is I was going to France

> in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through a menstrual cycle

after a procedure like

> that before trying to get pregnant...and so that would mean I would

miss an opportunity

> with during which I could try to get pregnant. But we agreed

that was the best thing

> to do.

>

> So, she scheduled me to have the procedure three days later. The

day before, I had to go

> in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that day I received two

phone calls: one from UCSF

> saying they could get me in for an appointment in mid-August. The

very next one was

> from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying, 'Um...scraping your

uterine wall right now is

> probably NOT the best idea...you are pregnant!!!'

>

> Apparently, the very day we decided to get pregnant, we GOT

pregnant. (We decided the

> day before we left, and we didn't use birth control that day). Can

you believe it???

>

> So, because they count from the first day of your last period when

they are determining

> how many weeks you are...I am now 10 and a half weeks pregnant.

There is still some risk

> of miscarriage, but I've had three sonagrams, and the baby is

growing, the heart is

> beating...and I'm doing fine.

>

> I'm very fatigued, but haven't had much (if any) morning

sickness. I haven't gained any

> weight yet, but my waist is definitely expanding, and I have a

little pooch. The size 8

> pants are a bit uncomfortable.

>

> is thrilled...now we have to figure out the immigration

issues. He's willing to stay

> home with the baby until it starts school, and I am thrilled with

that. He'll be a terrific dad.

>

> I'm a little concerned about weight gain, but my dr. said that I

could limit the weight gain

> to 15 lbs., and if she felt the baby wasn't growing enough, she'd

have me gain 5 to 10

> more. I'll keep exercising, I'm eating nutriously, taking pre-

natal vitamins...and I've

> increased my meals to 5 or 6 a day. Not huge ones, but I'm trying

to get in more carbs

> (fruit and veggies) because those are critically important for the

bambino/a.

>

> Anyway, what a change, huh? And I must say...had it not been for

the surgery, I seriously

> doubt I would have been able to get pregnant without medical

intervention. What a

> blessing!!

>

> And since many of you were there from the very beginning of me

meeting ...well, you

> are family, and I thought you'd like to know!

>

> Speaking of pregnancy, no word from for a long time...how is

she doing with all of

> that? Anyone know?

>

> Robynn...on the nest.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Gordy. Long time no hear...how are you doing?

Robynn

--- Gordy wrote:

> Hi Robynn....

>

> CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!

>

> Gordy

>

>

> >

> > So...I have a little news that I've been holding

> on to for several

> weeks now...and even

> > though it's early yet...I decided I needed to come

> clean with you

> all...since you are my

> > friends and you have been through so much with me

> in my journey so

> far.

> >

> > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year ago...and

> from the date I

> started orientation to today,

> > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking at

> the BMI chart)

> still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look

> overweight. At 5'6 " , I

> wear a size 8, and I weigh

> > about 157.

> >

> > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian

> Syndrome when I

> was 20...meaning that

> > getting pregnant for me was going to be very

> tough, and especially,

> given my advanced

> > age, likely to require medical intervention.

> >

> > I think I shared with you that while and I

> visited our friends

> in New York over Memorial

> > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14 month

> old little girl,

> and we decided FOR SURE

> > that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So, we

> talked about it,

> decided that he would go

> > to the doctor when he got home to make sure his

> boys were strong

> swimmers, etc...., he

> > bought some mega vitamins for me that are supposed

> to help with

> fertility, I bought the

> > same thing for women, an ovulation kit (because I

> ovulate

> irregularly, I've never known

> > when and/or if I ovulate), I made an appointment

> with UCSF

> infertility clinic to try and see

> > if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass go, do

> not collect $200.

> >

> > The day i got back, I had my one year check up

> with Dr. Fischer. I

> told him that I'd like to

> > try and get pregnant, and i know that they usually

> say you should

> wait for 2 years

> > post...but, was it ok if I got started? He said

> that my bloodwork

> was excellent, my folic

> > acid was way up there (important for baby

> development) and that my

> weight had been

> > essentially stable for 6 months...so I could go

> ahead. He said my

> weight was fine where it

> > was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real full

> court press to lose

> another 5 to 10 lbs, just to

> > give myself a little wiggle room when I was

> pregnant.

> >

> > In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar

> puncture and got super

> sick, I had a pelvic

> > sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little polyp

> in my uterus, and

> she wanted me to

> > come back in6 weeks later to see if it had grown,

> and if it was

> problematic. The sonagram

> > was scheduled two days after I got back from New

> York.

> >

> > The polyp was still there, and after I told her I

> wanted to try

> aggressive measures to try

> > and get pregnant, she said, " Well, the polyp can

> make it difficult

> for an implantation to

> > work...so we should go in and take it out. " The

> problem with that,

> is I was going to France

> > in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through a

> menstrual cycle

> after a procedure like

> > that before trying to get pregnant...and so that

> would mean I would

> miss an opportunity

> > with during which I could try to get

> pregnant. But we agreed

> that was the best thing

> > to do.

> >

> > So, she scheduled me to have the procedure three

> days later. The

> day before, I had to go

> > in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that day

> I received two

> phone calls: one from UCSF

> > saying they could get me in for an appointment in

> mid-August. The

> very next one was

> > from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying,

> 'Um...scraping your

> uterine wall right now is

> > probably NOT the best idea...you are pregnant!!!'

> >

> > Apparently, the very day we decided to get

> pregnant, we GOT

> pregnant. (We decided the

> > day before we left, and we didn't use birth

> control that day). Can

> you believe it???

> >

> > So, because they count from the first day of your

> last period when

> they are determining

> > how many weeks you are...I am now 10 and a half

> weeks pregnant.

> There is still some risk

> > of miscarriage, but I've had three sonagrams, and

> the baby is

> growing, the heart is

> > beating...and I'm doing fine.

> >

> > I'm very fatigued, but haven't had much (if any)

> morning

> sickness. I haven't gained any

> > weight yet, but my waist is definitely expanding,

> and I have a

> little pooch. The size 8

> > pants are a bit uncomfortable.

> >

> > is thrilled...now we have to figure out the

> immigration

> issues. He's willing to stay

> > home with the baby until it starts school, and I

> am thrilled with

> that. He'll be a terrific dad.

> >

> > I'm a little concerned about weight gain, but my

> dr. said that I

> could limit the weight gain

> > to 15 lbs., and if she felt the baby wasn't

> growing enough, she'd

> have me gain 5 to 10

> > more. I'll keep exercising, I'm eating

> nutriously, taking pre-

> natal vitamins...and I've

> > increased my meals to 5 or 6 a day. Not huge

> ones, but I'm trying

> to get in more carbs

> > (fruit and veggies) because those are critically

> important for the

> bambino/a.

> >

> > Anyway, what a change, huh? And I must say...had

> it not been for

> the surgery, I seriously

> > doubt I would have been able to get pregnant

> without medical

> intervention. What a

> > blessing!!

> >

> > And since many of you were there from the very

> beginning of me

> meeting ...well, you

> > are family, and I thought you'd like to know!

> >

> > Speaking of pregnancy, no word from for a

> long time...how is

> she doing with all of

> > that? Anyone know?

> >

> > Robynn...on the nest.

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > So...I have a little news that I've been holding

> > on to for several

> > weeks now...and even

> > > though it's early yet...I decided I needed to come

> > clean with you

> > all...since you are my

> > > friends and you have been through so much with me

> > in my journey so

> > far.

> > >

> > > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year ago...and

> > from the date I

> > started orientation to today,

> > > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking at

> > the BMI chart)

> > still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> > > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look

> > overweight. At 5'6 " , I

> > wear a size 8, and I weigh

> > > about 157.

> > >

> > > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian

> > Syndrome when I

> > was 20...meaning that

> > > getting pregnant for me was going to be very

> > tough, and especially,

> > given my advanced

> > > age, likely to require medical intervention.

> > >

> > > I think I shared with you that while and I

> > visited our friends

> > in New York over Memorial

> > > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14 month

> > old little girl,

> > and we decided FOR SURE

> > > that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So, we

> > talked about it,

> > decided that he would go

> > > to the doctor when he got home to make sure his

> > boys were strong

> > swimmers, etc...., he

> > > bought some mega vitamins for me that are supposed

> > to help with

> > fertility, I bought the

> > > same thing for women, an ovulation kit (because I

> > ovulate

> > irregularly, I've never known

> > > when and/or if I ovulate), I made an appointment

> > with UCSF

> > infertility clinic to try and see

> > > if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass go, do

> > not collect $200.

> > >

> > > The day i got back, I had my one year check up

> > with Dr. Fischer. I

> > told him that I'd like to

> > > try and get pregnant, and i know that they usually

> > say you should

> > wait for 2 years

> > > post...but, was it ok if I got started? He said

> > that my bloodwork

> > was excellent, my folic

> > > acid was way up there (important for baby

> > development) and that my

> > weight had been

> > > essentially stable for 6 months...so I could go

> > ahead. He said my

> > weight was fine where it

> > > was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real full

> > court press to lose

> > another 5 to 10 lbs, just to

> > > give myself a little wiggle room when I was

> > pregnant.

> > >

> > > In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar

> > puncture and got super

> > sick, I had a pelvic

> > > sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little polyp

> > in my uterus, and

> > she wanted me to

> > > come back in6 weeks later to see if it had grown,

> > and if it was

> > problematic. The sonagram

> > > was scheduled two days after I got back from New

> > York.

> > >

> > > The polyp was still there, and after I told her I

> > wanted to try

> > aggressive measures to try

> > > and get pregnant, she said, " Well, the polyp can

> > make it difficult

> > for an implantation to

> > > work...so we should go in and take it out. " The

> > problem with that,

> > is I was going to France

> > > in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through a

> > menstrual cycle

> > after a procedure like

> > > that before trying to get pregnant...and so that

> > would mean I would

> > miss an opportunity

> > > with during which I could try to get

> > pregnant. But we agreed

> > that was the best thing

> > > to do.

> > >

> > > So, she scheduled me to have the procedure three

> > days later. The

> > day before, I had to go

> > > in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that day

> > I received two

> > phone calls: one from UCSF

> > > saying they could get me in for an appointment in

> > mid-August. The

> > very next one was

> > > from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying,

> > 'Um...scraping your

> > uterine wall right now is

> > > probably NOT the best idea...you are pregnant!!!'

> > >

> > > Apparently, the very day we decided to get

> > pregnant, we GOT

> > pregnant. (We decided the

> > > day before we left, and we didn't use birth

> > control that day). Can

> > you believe it???

> > >

> > > So, because they count from the first day of your

> > last period when

> > they are determining

> > > how many weeks you are...I am now 10 and a half

> > weeks pregnant.

> > There is still some risk

> > > of miscarriage, but I've had three sonagrams, and

> > the baby is

> > growing, the heart is

> > > beating...and I'm doing fine.

> > >

> > > I'm very fatigued, but haven't had much (if any)

> > morning

> > sickness. I haven't gained any

> > > weight yet, but my waist is definitely expanding,

> > and I have a

> > little pooch. The size 8

> > > pants are a bit uncomfortable.

> > >

> > > is thrilled...now we have to figure out the

> > immigration

> > issues. He's willing to stay

> > > home with the baby until it starts school, and I

> > am thrilled with

> > that. He'll be a terrific dad.

> > >

> > > I'm a little concerned about weight gain, but my

> > dr. said that I

> > could limit the weight gain

> > > to 15 lbs., and if she felt the baby wasn't

> > growing enough, she'd

> > have me gain 5 to 10

> > > more. I'll keep exercising, I'm eating

> > nutriously, taking pre-

> > natal vitamins...and I've

> > > increased my meals to 5 or 6 a day. Not huge

> > ones, but I'm trying

> > to get in more carbs

> > > (fruit and veggies) because those are critically

> > important for the

> > bambino/a.

> > >

> > > Anyway, what a change, huh? And I must say...had

> > it not been for

> > the surgery, I seriously

> > > doubt I would have been able to get pregnant

> > without medical

> > intervention. What a

> > > blessing!!

> > >

> > > And since many of you were there from the very

> > beginning of me

> > meeting ...well, you

> > > are family, and I thought you'd like to know!

> > >

> > > Speaking of pregnancy, no word from for a

> > long time...how is

> > she doing with all of

> > > that? Anyone know?

> > >

> > > Robynn...on the nest.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

[Guest guest]

GordyI know we talk just not on here only, but I didn't know you where all the way to 181. WOW that is great, I'm very proud of you my friend. Hope to see you Monday at support group if your schedule permits. Take care. Donna JGordy wrote: > > > > > > So...I have a little news that I've been holding > > on to for several > > weeks now...and even > > > though it's early yet...I decided I needed to come > > clean with you > > all...since you are my > > > friends and you have been through so much with me > > in my journey so > > far. > > > > > > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year ago...and > > from the date I > > started orientation to today, > > > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking at > > the BMI chart) > > still about 6 lbs. overweight, > > > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look > > overweight. At 5'6", I > > wear a size 8, and I weigh > > > about 157. > > > > > > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic

Ovarian > > Syndrome when I > > was 20...meaning that > > > getting pregnant for me was going to be very > > tough, and especially, > > given my advanced > > > age, likely to require medical intervention. > > > > > > I think I shared with you that while and I > > visited our friends > > in New York over Memorial > > > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14 month > > old little girl, > > and we decided FOR SURE > > > that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So, we > > talked about it, > > decided that he would go > > > to the doctor when he got home to make sure his > > boys were strong > > swimmers, etc...., he > > > bought some mega vitamins for me that are supposed > > to help with > > fertility, I bought the

> > > same thing for women, an ovulation kit (because I > > ovulate > > irregularly, I've never known > > > when and/or if I ovulate), I made an appointment > > with UCSF > > infertility clinic to try and see > > > if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass go, do > > not collect $200. > > > > > > The day i got back, I had my one year check up > > with Dr. Fischer. I > > told him that I'd like to > > > try and get pregnant, and i know that they usually > > say you should > > wait for 2 years > > > post...but, was it ok if I got started? He said > > that my bloodwork > > was excellent, my folic > > > acid was way up there (important for baby > > development) and that my > > weight had been > > > essentially stable

for 6 months...so I could go > > ahead. He said my > > weight was fine where it > > > was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real full > > court press to lose > > another 5 to 10 lbs, just to > > > give myself a little wiggle room when I was > > pregnant. > > > > > > In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar > > puncture and got super > > sick, I had a pelvic > > > sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little polyp > > in my uterus, and > > she wanted me to > > > come back in6 weeks later to see if it had grown, > > and if it was > > problematic. The sonagram > > > was scheduled two days after I got back from New > > York. > > > > > > The polyp was still there, and after I told her I > > wanted to try > >

aggressive measures to try > > > and get pregnant, she said, "Well, the polyp can > > make it difficult > > for an implantation to > > > work...so we should go in and take it out." The > > problem with that, > > is I was going to France > > > in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through a > > menstrual cycle > > after a procedure like > > > that before trying to get pregnant...and so that > > would mean I would > > miss an opportunity > > > with during which I could try to get > > pregnant. But we agreed > > that was the best thing > > > to do. > > > > > > So, she scheduled me to have the procedure three > > days later. The > > day before, I had to go > > > in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that day >

> I received two > > phone calls: one from UCSF > > > saying they could get me in for an appointment in > > mid-August. The > > very next one was > > > from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying, > > 'Um...scraping your > > uterine wall right now is > > > probably NOT the best idea...you are pregnant!!!' > > > > > > Apparently, the very day we decided to get > > pregnant, we GOT > > pregnant. (We decided the > > > day before we left, and we didn't use birth > > control that day). Can > > you believe it??? > > > > > > So, because they count from the first day of your > > last period when > > they are determining > > > how many weeks you are...I am now 10 and a half > > weeks pregnant. > > There is still some

risk > > > of miscarriage, but I've had three sonagrams, and > > the baby is > > growing, the heart is > > > beating...and I'm doing fine. > > > > > > I'm very fatigued, but haven't had much (if any) > > morning > > sickness. I haven't gained any > > > weight yet, but my waist is definitely expanding, > > and I have a > > little pooch. The size 8 > > > pants are a bit uncomfortable. > > > > > > is thrilled...now we have to figure out the > > immigration > > issues. He's willing to stay > > > home with the baby until it starts school, and I > > am thrilled with > > that. He'll be a terrific dad. > > > > > > I'm a little concerned about weight gain, but my > > dr. said that I > > could limit

the weight gain > > > to 15 lbs., and if she felt the baby wasn't > > growing enough, she'd > > have me gain 5 to 10 > > > more. I'll keep exercising, I'm eating > > nutriously, taking pre- > > natal vitamins...and I've > > > increased my meals to 5 or 6 a day. Not huge > > ones, but I'm trying > > to get in more carbs > > > (fruit and veggies) because those are critically > > important for the > > bambino/a. > > > > > > Anyway, what a change, huh? And I must say...had > > it not been for > > the surgery, I seriously > > > doubt I would have been able to get pregnant > > without medical > > intervention. What a > > > blessing!! > > > > > > And since many of you were there from the very > > beginning

of me > > meeting ...well, you > > > are family, and I thought you'd like to know! > > > > > > Speaking of pregnancy, no word from for a > > long time...how is > > she doing with all of > > > that? Anyone know? > > > > > > Robynn...on the nest. > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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Ok MR. DELUSIONAL!!!! Give yourself some credit, for

Pete's sake!!! You've lost nearly 140 lbs.

already...and yes, I know you lost a lot of that

pre=surgery...but your poor body had to recover from

the two surgeries...and you had your surgery

when...wasn't it just a couple of months ago? I'd say

you are doing AMAZINGLY WELL!!!!!

Yahoo yahoo yahoo!!!!!

I mean, you are kind of a big guy...aren't you getting

close to goal? Wow, wow, wow...I'm so proud of you

(sorry for the joke slams in the beginning, I know you

aren't really delusional...but it is funny how we get

so eager to lose quickly that we don't stop and think,

uh...HELLO...we've lost 60 lbs. in three months...or

whatever.

Are you able to exercise, or are you still too tired.

I struggled with anemia in the beginning, so I

understand what you are talking about. One day,

you'll wake up, and you'll start to feel great. The

fatigue will be gone, you'll be light on your feet,

ready to tackle the world. Bit by bit, you'll be able

to eat some more, and you'll feel more vibrant again.

But in the meantime, stick to your guns...get the last

few lbs. off (what is your goal?), and hopefully,

you'll be able to get some exercise in.

Just think, you're going to have to downsize your

waders!!!!

So proud of you, my friend...so happy for you!!

Robynn

--- Gordy wrote:

>

> > > >

> > > > So...I have a little news that I've been

> holding

> > > on to for several

> > > weeks now...and even

> > > > though it's early yet...I decided I needed to

> come

> > > clean with you

> > > all...since you are my

> > > > friends and you have been through so much with

> me

> > > in my journey so

> > > far.

> > > >

> > > > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year

> ago...and

> > > from the date I

> > > started orientation to today,

> > > > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking

> at

> > > the BMI chart)

> > > still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> > > > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look

> > > overweight. At 5'6 " , I

> > > wear a size 8, and I weigh

> > > > about 157.

> > > >

> > > > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic

> Ovarian

> > > Syndrome when I

> > > was 20...meaning that

> > > > getting pregnant for me was going to be very

> > > tough, and especially,

> > > given my advanced

> > > > age, likely to require medical intervention.

> > > >

> > > > I think I shared with you that while and

> I

> > > visited our friends

> > > in New York over Memorial

> > > > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14

> month

> > > old little girl,

> > > and we decided FOR SURE

> > > > that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So,

> we

> > > talked about it,

> > > decided that he would go

> > > > to the doctor when he got home to make sure

> his

> > > boys were strong

> > > swimmers, etc...., he

> > > > bought some mega vitamins for me that are

> supposed

> > > to help with

> > > fertility, I bought the

> > > > same thing for women, an ovulation kit

> (because I

> > > ovulate

> > > irregularly, I've never known

> > > > when and/or if I ovulate), I made an

> appointment

> > > with UCSF

> > > infertility clinic to try and see

> > > > if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass

> go, do

> > > not collect $200.

> > > >

> > > > The day i got back, I had my one year check up

> > > with Dr. Fischer. I

> > > told him that I'd like to

> > > > try and get pregnant, and i know that they

> usually

> > > say you should

> > > wait for 2 years

> > > > post...but, was it ok if I got started? He

> said

> > > that my bloodwork

> > > was excellent, my folic

> > > > acid was way up there (important for baby

> > > development) and that my

> > > weight had been

> > > > essentially stable for 6 months...so I could

> go

> > > ahead. He said my

> > > weight was fine where it

> > > > was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real

> full

> > > court press to lose

> > > another 5 to 10 lbs, just to

> > > > give myself a little wiggle room when I was

> > > pregnant.

> > > >

> > > > In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar

> > > puncture and got super

> > > sick, I had a pelvic

> > > > sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little

> polyp

> > > in my uterus, and

> > > she wanted me to

> > > > come back in6 weeks later to see if it had

> grown,

> > > and if it was

> > > problematic. The sonagram

> > > > was scheduled two days after I got back from

> New

> > > York.

> > > >

> > > > The polyp was still there, and after I told

> her I

> > > wanted to try

> > > aggressive measures to try

> > > > and get pregnant, she said, " Well, the polyp

> can

> > > make it difficult

> > > for an implantation to

> > > > work...so we should go in and take it out. "

> The

> > > problem with that,

> > > is I was going to France

> > > > in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through

> a

> > > menstrual cycle

> > > after a procedure like

> > > > that before trying to get pregnant...and so

> that

> > > would mean I would

> > > miss an opportunity

> > > > with during which I could try to get

> > > pregnant. But we agreed

> > > that was the best thing

> > > > to do.

> > > >

> > > > So, she scheduled me to have the procedure

> three

> > > days later. The

> > > day before, I had to go

> > > > in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that

> day

> > > I received two

> > > phone calls: one from UCSF

> > > > saying they could get me in for an appointment

> in

> > > mid-August. The

> > > very next one was

> > > > from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying,

> > > 'Um...scraping your

> > > uterine wall right now is

> > > > probably NOT the best idea...you are

> pregnant!!!'

> > > >

> > > > Apparently, the very day we decided to get

> > > pregnant, we GOT

> > > pregnant. (We decided the

> > > > day before we left, and we didn't use birth

> > > control that day). Can

> > > you believe it???

> > > >

> > > > So, because they count from the first day of

> your

> > > last period when

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

hahahahaha....LOL. You are verrrrry funny Robynn. That's one of the

things I like about you. I'm not worried about the weight loss but I

do worry about being tired all the time. My labs check out OK so

it's probably my pain medication and the rebuilding process at work.

Doctor Baggs set my goal weight at 175# so I only have 6 pounds to

get there and I know it will happen in due time. As far as

exercising.....well....I've totally lost my focus on that one. I was

going to the gym everyday at 0430 and walking my treadmill every

night but the gym went out the window when I couldn't sleep all night

and for some reason I can't get myself to walk when I get home at

night.

Yes I have been blaming it on being too tired and I know that's

partly an excuse but I'm working up to it again. I've been this way

all my life, I'll exercise like crazy for about a year then take a

little time off. I just need to get motivated again and like I said,

I'm working on it.

Take care of yourself and those growing little babies. I had two

boys, two girls and one vasectomy so I know you are in for a wild

ride.

Gordy

> > > > >

> > > > > So...I have a little news that I've been

> > holding

> > > > on to for several

> > > > weeks now...and even

> > > > > though it's early yet...I decided I needed to

> > come

> > > > clean with you

> > > > all...since you are my

> > > > > friends and you have been through so much with

> > me

> > > > in my journey so

> > > > far.

> > > > >

> > > > > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year

> > ago...and

> > > > from the date I

> > > > started orientation to today,

> > > > > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically (looking

> > at

> > > > the BMI chart)

> > > > still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> > > > > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look

> > > > overweight. At 5'6 " , I

> > > > wear a size 8, and I weigh

> > > > > about 157.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic

> > Ovarian

> > > > Syndrome when I

> > > > was 20...meaning that

> > > > > getting pregnant for me was going to be very

> > > > tough, and especially,

> > > > given my advanced

> > > > > age, likely to require medical intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think I shared with you that while and

> > I

> > > > visited our friends

> > > > in New York over Memorial

> > > > > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14

> > month

> > > > old little girl,

> > > > and we decided FOR SURE

> > > > > that we wanted to try and get pregnant. So,

> > we

> > > > talked about it,

> > > > decided that he would go

> > > > > to the doctor when he got home to make sure

> > his

> > > > boys were strong

> > > > swimmers, etc...., he

> > > > > bought some mega vitamins for me that are

> > supposed

> > > > to help with

> > > > fertility, I bought the

> > > > > same thing for women, an ovulation kit

> > (because I

> > > > ovulate

> > > > irregularly, I've never known

> > > > > when and/or if I ovulate), I made an

> > appointment

> > > > with UCSF

> > > > infertility clinic to try and see

> > > > > if I should go directly to IVF, do not pass

> > go, do

> > > > not collect $200.

> > > > >

> > > > > The day i got back, I had my one year check up

> > > > with Dr. Fischer. I

> > > > told him that I'd like to

> > > > > try and get pregnant, and i know that they

> > usually

> > > > say you should

> > > > wait for 2 years

> > > > > post...but, was it ok if I got started? He

> > said

> > > > that my bloodwork

> > > > was excellent, my folic

> > > > > acid was way up there (important for baby

> > > > development) and that my

> > > > weight had been

> > > > > essentially stable for 6 months...so I could

> > go

> > > > ahead. He said my

> > > > weight was fine where it

> > > > > was, but if I wanted to, I could do a real

> > full

> > > > court press to lose

> > > > another 5 to 10 lbs, just to

> > > > > give myself a little wiggle room when I was

> > > > pregnant.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the meantime, back when I had that lumbar

> > > > puncture and got super

> > > > sick, I had a pelvic

> > > > > sonagram, and my ob/gyn said I had a little

> > polyp

> > > > in my uterus, and

> > > > she wanted me to

> > > > > come back in6 weeks later to see if it had

> > grown,

> > > > and if it was

> > > > problematic. The sonagram

> > > > > was scheduled two days after I got back from

> > New

> > > > York.

> > > > >

> > > > > The polyp was still there, and after I told

> > her I

> > > > wanted to try

> > > > aggressive measures to try

> > > > > and get pregnant, she said, " Well, the polyp

> > can

> > > > make it difficult

> > > > for an implantation to

> > > > > work...so we should go in and take it out. "

> > The

> > > > problem with that,

> > > > is I was going to France

> > > > > in 4 weeks, and you are supposed to go through

> > a

> > > > menstrual cycle

> > > > after a procedure like

> > > > > that before trying to get pregnant...and so

> > that

> > > > would mean I would

> > > > miss an opportunity

> > > > > with during which I could try to get

> > > > pregnant. But we agreed

> > > > that was the best thing

> > > > > to do.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, she scheduled me to have the procedure

> > three

> > > > days later. The

> > > > day before, I had to go

> > > > > in for tests for the pre-surgery. Later that

> > day

> > > > I received two

> > > > phone calls: one from UCSF

> > > > > saying they could get me in for an appointment

> > in

> > > > mid-August. The

> > > > very next one was

> > > > > from my ob/gyn. SHe was laughing, saying,

> > > > 'Um...scraping your

> > > > uterine wall right now is

> > > > > probably NOT the best idea...you are

> > pregnant!!!'

> > > > >

> > > > > Apparently, the very day we decided to get

> > > > pregnant, we GOT

> > > > pregnant. (We decided the

> > > > > day before we left, and we didn't use birth

> > > > control that day). Can

> > > > you believe it???

> > > > >

> > > > > So, because they count from the first day of

> > your

> > > > last period when

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

[Guest guest]

BabY, not babies. Yikes, I'm freaked enough without

thinking about twins?!?!!! Hee hee.

As for the exercise thing, I went through that too,

because of fatigue. Here's what I suggest. Get a

personal trainer once a week at the gym. That way,

you know you'll get there at least once a week. After

a few weeks, when you are " back on the wagon " , you'll

be able to do it yourself. Do it for after work,

because 4:30 is so early, it's easier to blow it off.

You've done terrifically well! Keep it up!

Robynn

--- Gordy wrote:

> hahahahaha....LOL. You are verrrrry funny Robynn.

> That's one of the

> things I like about you. I'm not worried about the

> weight loss but I

> do worry about being tired all the time. My labs

> check out OK so

> it's probably my pain medication and the rebuilding

> process at work.

> Doctor Baggs set my goal weight at 175# so I only

> have 6 pounds to

> get there and I know it will happen in due time. As

> far as

> exercising.....well....I've totally lost my focus on

> that one. I was

> going to the gym everyday at 0430 and walking my

> treadmill every

> night but the gym went out the window when I

> couldn't sleep all night

> and for some reason I can't get myself to walk when

> I get home at

> night.

>

> Yes I have been blaming it on being too tired and I

> know that's

> partly an excuse but I'm working up to it again.

> I've been this way

> all my life, I'll exercise like crazy for about a

> year then take a

> little time off. I just need to get motivated again

> and like I said,

> I'm working on it.

>

> Take care of yourself and those growing little

> babies. I had two

> boys, two girls and one vasectomy so I know you are

> in for a wild

> ride.

>

> Gordy

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So...I have a little news that I've been

> > > holding

> > > > > on to for several

> > > > > weeks now...and even

> > > > > > though it's early yet...I decided I needed

> to

> > > come

> > > > > clean with you

> > > > > all...since you are my

> > > > > > friends and you have been through so much

> with

> > > me

> > > > > in my journey so

> > > > > far.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had the surgery on June 8th, a year

> > > ago...and

> > > > > from the date I

> > > > > started orientation to today,

> > > > > > I've lost 105 lbs. I am technically

> (looking

> > > at

> > > > > the BMI chart)

> > > > > still about 6 lbs. overweight,

> > > > > > but I'm pretty muscular, and I don't look

> > > > > overweight. At 5'6 " , I

> > > > > wear a size 8, and I weigh

> > > > > > about 157.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm 42. I was diagnosed with Polycystic

> > > Ovarian

> > > > > Syndrome when I

> > > > > was 20...meaning that

> > > > > > getting pregnant for me was going to be

> very

> > > > > tough, and especially,

> > > > > given my advanced

> > > > > > age, likely to require medical

> intervention.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think I shared with you that while

> and

> > > I

> > > > > visited our friends

> > > > > in New York over Memorial

> > > > > > Day, we totally flipped out over their 14

> > > month

> > > > > old little girl,

> > > > > and we decided FOR SURE

> > > > > > that we wanted to try and get pregnant.

> So,

> > > we

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Robynn,

What wonderful news! Congratulations!

My OB down here in Santa Clara tells me that she has three different

patients who are posties for WLS who have had successful

pregnancies, and I would suspect that there are lots of other GYNs

in Kaiser who are similar. You sound like you're doing really well,

and I know you'll be absolutely wonderful as a mother.

Don't stress too much about weight gain. 15 to 25 lbs sounds like a

lot when you've gone through so much to lose it, but if you nurse

the baby and keep up your exercise you shouldn't have any problem

losing it afterwards. I lost my entire, 55-lb. pregnancy weight

gain by the time my first daughter was 3 months old.

However, if you don't, then be sure to have your doctor check your

thyroid at about 3-6 months postpartum. It's not at all uncommon for

new mothers in their late 30's or older to have a thyroid " crash "

following pregnancy, and one of the early clues can be not losing

the weight or gaining some of it back after losing it. That also

happened to me - after losing all 55 lbs I gained back 20 before my

doctor figured out what was going on.

Cathy C.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information (and congratulations)

Cathy...I'll keep that in mind!

Robynn

--- Cathy wrote:

> Robynn,

> What wonderful news! Congratulations!

>

> My OB down here in Santa Clara tells me that she has

> three different

> patients who are posties for WLS who have had

> successful

> pregnancies, and I would suspect that there are lots

> of other GYNs

> in Kaiser who are similar. You sound like you're

> doing really well,

> and I know you'll be absolutely wonderful as a

> mother.

>

> Don't stress too much about weight gain. 15 to 25

> lbs sounds like a

> lot when you've gone through so much to lose it, but

> if you nurse

> the baby and keep up your exercise you shouldn't

> have any problem

> losing it afterwards. I lost my entire, 55-lb.

> pregnancy weight

> gain by the time my first daughter was 3 months old.

>

>

> However, if you don't, then be sure to have your

> doctor check your

> thyroid at about 3-6 months postpartum. It's not at

> all uncommon for

> new mothers in their late 30's or older to have a

> thyroid " crash "

> following pregnancy, and one of the early clues can

> be not losing

> the weight or gaining some of it back after losing

> it. That also

> happened to me - after losing all 55 lbs I gained

> back 20 before my

> doctor figured out what was going on.

>

> Cathy C.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robynn, I was on vacation last week when you sent out

your announcement but congrats as I told you before.

I really wish you much happiness and everything that

you desire out of life.

Pam Marsh

--- Robynn VanPatten wrote:

> Thanks for the information (and congratulations)

> Cathy...I'll keep that in mind!

>

> Robynn

>

> --- Cathy wrote:

>

> > Robynn,

> > What wonderful news! Congratulations!

> >

> > My OB down here in Santa Clara tells me that she

> has

> > three different

> > patients who are posties for WLS who have had

> > successful

> > pregnancies, and I would suspect that there are

> lots

> > of other GYNs

> > in Kaiser who are similar. You sound like you're

> > doing really well,

> > and I know you'll be absolutely wonderful as a

> > mother.

> >

> > Don't stress too much about weight gain. 15 to 25

> > lbs sounds like a

> > lot when you've gone through so much to lose it,

> but

> > if you nurse

> > the baby and keep up your exercise you shouldn't

> > have any problem

> > losing it afterwards. I lost my entire, 55-lb.

> > pregnancy weight

> > gain by the time my first daughter was 3 months

> old.

> >

> >

> > However, if you don't, then be sure to have your

> > doctor check your

> > thyroid at about 3-6 months postpartum. It's not

> at

> > all uncommon for

> > new mothers in their late 30's or older to have a

> > thyroid " crash "

> > following pregnancy, and one of the early clues

> can

> > be not losing

> > the weight or gaining some of it back after losing

> > it. That also

> > happened to me - after losing all 55 lbs I gained

> > back 20 before my

> > doctor figured out what was going on.

> >

> > Cathy C.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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