Re: A sad day for this list

[Guest guest]

Dear Ken,

Perhaps you are right, however, it seemed to me that this woman just

had an agenda she wanted all of us to follow and if anyone disagreed

with her, she just got angry. I did not see that reasonable person

who just was struggling to deal with anything. Nor did I see her

willing to debate. She just had her point of view and that was

that!

I have heard a saying many times that might have been of help to

her. People do not care what you know until they know you care. She

did not take time to get to know us or what we were dealing with, nor

did she share anything of herself except her crusade.

Perhaps, in your private emails with her, she showed more of a

balanced viewpoint, but here, she seemed rather judgemental and

abrasive. I also do not understand her haste to flee. She didn't

give us time to debate anything.

Just my opinion!

Conny, great-aunt to

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For me this is a sad day in the history of this list.

>

> Recently we had a new person join who worked in medical research

with

> vast knowledge of the medications we use for our children. Having

> worked in that field she had much to teach us.

>

> In some private conversations with her I learned that she was a

> mature, sensible, intelligent, reasonable person struggling to deal

> with some issues. My sense was that this was someone asking for our

> support while trying cope with her idealism.

>

> Her disillusionment with her work spilled over into her messages.

She

> did have some controversial ideas that I and many disagreed with.

> However, our reaction to her point of view was disappointing to me

to

> say the least.

>

> When I read her first message before letting it be posted (yes, I

had

> the chance to prevent it), I had hoped that our responses would be

> more typical of a mature and enlightened group, seeking knowledge

and

> wisdom while practicing the tolerance we so often preach.

>

> So, at her request and with great reluctance and much

disappointment,

> I have removed her from the list.

>

>

> Ken M

>

[Guest guest]

Ken,

While I believe in letting everyone's opinion be shared (after all,

that is part of why we are all here), she could have gotten herself

off to a better start.

I know that if she had introduced herself and let us know about her

and her child before it seemed like she was lecturing all of us on

why we shouldn't give our children medication (when most of us don't

really have any choices except for the issue of GHT), I for one

would have felt better.

Based on her posts, I felt that she had alterior motives for being

here and having been through other " trying " situations here, I was

not up for dealing with another one.

Since I know you spoke to her and she really is a parent with an RSS

child and does have such a great background, I am sorry to see her

go. Unfortunately, sometimes it isn't what is being said but how

that can cause a problem.

Judith, Steve, (RSS) and (non RSS) 4 3/4 year old twins

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> For me this is a sad day in the history of this list.

>

> Recently we had a new person join who worked in medical research

with

> vast knowledge of the medications we use for our children. Having

> worked in that field she had much to teach us.

>

> In some private conversations with her I learned that she was a

> mature, sensible, intelligent, reasonable person struggling to

deal

> with some issues. My sense was that this was someone asking for

our

> support while trying cope with her idealism.

>

> Her disillusionment with her work spilled over into her messages.

She

> did have some controversial ideas that I and many disagreed with.

> However, our reaction to her point of view was disappointing to me

to

> say the least.

>

> When I read her first message before letting it be posted (yes, I

had

> the chance to prevent it), I had hoped that our responses would be

> more typical of a mature and enlightened group, seeking knowledge

and

> wisdom while practicing the tolerance we so often preach.

>

> So, at her request and with great reluctance and much

disappointment,

> I have removed her from the list.

>

>

> Ken M

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Judith,

Yes I agree, how we say something says as much or more than what we

say. The problem with e-mail is that there is no good way to

communicate the how, however, the what comes through just fine.

Thanks for writing.

Ken M

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > For me this is a sad day in the history of this list.

> >

> > Recently we had a new person join who worked in medical research

> with

> > vast knowledge of the medications we use for our children. Having

> > worked in that field she had much to teach us.

> >

> > In some private conversations with her I learned that she was a

> > mature, sensible, intelligent, reasonable person struggling to

> deal

> > with some issues. My sense was that this was someone asking for

> our

> > support while trying cope with her idealism.

> >

> > Her disillusionment with her work spilled over into her messages.

> She

> > did have some controversial ideas that I and many disagreed with.

> > However, our reaction to her point of view was disappointing to

me

> to

> > say the least.

> >

> > When I read her first message before letting it be posted (yes, I

> had

> > the chance to prevent it), I had hoped that our responses would

be

> > more typical of a mature and enlightened group, seeking knowledge

> and

> > wisdom while practicing the tolerance we so often preach.

> >

> > So, at her request and with great reluctance and much

> disappointment,

> > I have removed her from the list.

> >

> >

> > Ken M

> >

[Guest guest]

Ken,

I found rather used that she used our listserve for " research " but,

chose not to contribute. It is unfortunate she made the decision to

leave but, I can't say I have an opinion one way or another and

don't necessarily think it was a " Sad day for the listserve " .

Just my opinion.

Saundra Mom to Delaney and Braeden (Rss) 26 month twins