RE: Is L. Casei okay in yogurt starter?

[Guest guest]

I use this (GI prostart) and it is legal.

PJ

>

> I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt starter

" ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and pecanbread.com, however they

now have a non-dairy starter called " GI ProStart " which has L. Bulgaricus, S.

Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first two check out on Elane's website, but is L.

Casei okay?

>

> I'm planning on making goat yogurt since I have oral thrush and assume it

would be a safer choice for me. If that doesn't work out I could try cashew,

almond or coconut milk yogurt, although I believe those are all more advanced.

I'm taking SCDophilus but would prefer to have some kind of yogurt in my diet. I

am able to eat cultured organic butter without any problems.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tamra in Gilroy

> FMS, CFIDS, PI-IBS-d

> SCD Day 30

> LDN Day 205

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Tamra, L. Casei is not SCD legal.

I just read it yesterday in Elaine’s book.

GERDS and chronic C.

SCD 2 yrs

Is L. Casei

okay in yogurt starter?

I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt

starter " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and

pecanbread.com, however they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI

ProStart " which has L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first

two check out on Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

I'm planning on making goat yogurt since I have oral thrush and assume it would

be a safer choice for me. If that doesn't work out I could try cashew, almond

or coconut milk yogurt, although I believe those are all more advanced. I'm

taking SCDophilus but would prefer to have some kind of yogurt in my diet. I am

able to eat cultured organic butter without any problems.

Thanks,

Tamra in Gilroy

FMS, CFIDS, PI-IBS-d

SCD Day 30

LDN Day 205

[Guest guest]

L Casei is a lactobacillus strain, so now I'm confused. GI prostart is discussed

on pecanbread.com too, and I believe others here also use it. So if it is

illegal, I hope this is cleared up soon.

PJ

>

> Sorry Tamra, L. Casei is not SCD legal. I just read it yesterday in

> Elaine's book.

>

>

> GERDS and chronic C.

> SCD 2 yrs

> Is L. Casei okay in yogurt starter?

>

>

> I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt starter

> " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and pecanbread.com, however

> they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI ProStart " which has L.

> Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first two check out on

> Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

>

> I'm planning on making goat yogurt since I have oral thrush and assume

> it would be a safer choice for me. If that doesn't work out I could try

> cashew, almond or coconut milk yogurt, although I believe those are all

> more advanced. I'm taking SCDophilus but would prefer to have some kind

> of yogurt in my diet. I am able to eat cultured organic butter without

> any problems.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Tamra in Gilroy

> FMS, CFIDS, PI-IBS-d

> SCD Day 30

> LDN Day 205

>

[Guest guest]

from the pecanbread site:

" 2. Some of the bacteria in the yogurt starters have fairly low, optimum growth

ranges. Lactobacillus casei, one of the strains in Progurt, has a low

temperature range. Cooling the milk to room temperature before adding this

starter will allow the L. casei to do it's part in fermenting the milk into

yogurt. "

when I look for progurt, all I can find is GI prostart with the three strains...

PJ

> >

> > Sorry Tamra, L. Casei is not SCD legal. I just read it yesterday in

> > Elaine's book.

> >

> >

> > GERDS and chronic C.

> > SCD 2 yrs

> > Is L. Casei okay in yogurt starter?

> >

> >

> > I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt starter

> > " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and pecanbread.com, however

> > they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI ProStart " which has L.

> > Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first two check out on

> > Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

> >

> > I'm planning on making goat yogurt since I have oral thrush and assume

> > it would be a safer choice for me. If that doesn't work out I could try

> > cashew, almond or coconut milk yogurt, although I believe those are all

> > more advanced. I'm taking SCDophilus but would prefer to have some kind

> > of yogurt in my diet. I am able to eat cultured organic butter without

> > any problems.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Tamra in Gilroy

> > FMS, CFIDS, PI-IBS-d

> > SCD Day 30

> > LDN Day 205

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I took that as a separate supplement (stand-alone).  I thought it was legal.  It seemed to help but I lost my source.

 

Is it definitely legal or illegal?

 

Debbie 40 cd

> Sorry Tamra, L. Casei is not SCD legal. I just read it yesterday in

> Elaine's book.>

Where in the book?

L. Casei is a form of lactobaccillus. Why would it be illegal? 

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[Guest guest]

At 07:07 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

Is it definitely legal or

illegal?

Definitely legal.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Well then why is this on the BTVC website:

*** Bifidum and Caseii are not allowed on SCD™. Neither are

soil-based organisms, as their effects have not been well researched or

documented.

Here is the link: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/primal_defense.htm

I didn’t make this up!!!

GERDS and chronic C.

SCD 2 yrs

Re: Is L.

Casei okay in yogurt starter?

At 01:11 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

I went to the GI health website looking for the

non-dairy yogurt starter " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website

and pecanbread.com, however they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI

ProStart " which has L. Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first

two check out on Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

L. Casei is fine. <g> I asked that question, myself, when Progurt first

came out!

You may wish to add some acidophilus to the mix when making your yogurt, or

take acidophilus capsules along with it.

— Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

You did not make this up , Now what we have here is a discrepancy. I hope this

gets cleared up. It could be an error.

PJ

> I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt starter

> " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and pecanbread.com, however

> they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI ProStart " which has L.

> Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first two check out on

> Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

>

> L. Casei is fine. <g> I asked that question, myself, when Progurt first

> came out!

>

> You may wish to add some acidophilus to the mix when making your yogurt,

> or take acidophilus capsules along with it.

>

>

>

> - Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

I know that Elaine's website hasn't been updated in several years. Ian, the

webmaster, was quite ill for several years before he died a year or two ago.

I'll pass this contradictory statement along to the new webmaster (Elaine's

grandson); he hasn't had time to do much updating as yet.

It must be something Elaine reconsidered after her comments on Primal Defense.

Perhaps when Progurt was first made available.

I would expect that the owner and moderators of Pecanbread discussed Progurt

with Elaine at some point, and obtained her approval verbally or in writing.

If you are concerned about L. Casei, then choose a different legal yogurt

starter. Or if your body seems to react to Progurt, then you can try another

legal yogurt starter. L. Casei might be something similar to S. Boulardii, some

do well and some do not.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

> > I went to the GI health website looking for the non-dairy yogurt starter

> > " ProGurt " suggested on both Elaine's website and pecanbread.com, however

> > they now have a non-dairy starter called " GI ProStart " which has L.

> > Bulgaricus, S. Thermophilus and L. Casei. The first two check out on

> > Elane's website, but is L. Casei okay?

> >

> > L. Casei is fine. <g> I asked that question, myself, when Progurt first

> > came out!

> >

> > You may wish to add some acidophilus to the mix when making your yogurt,

> > or take acidophilus capsules along with it.

> >

> >

> >

> > - Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> > Babette the Foundling Beagle

> >

>