Re:Re: Decision about meds, was Re: dccc/yeast

April 7, 2010

Debbie

When I was in my drastic yeast elimination SCD phase, I used the fruit nutrition

lists frequently to determine the sugar content per serving. This nutrition data

helped me select which fruits I would use (lowest in sugar), and then give me a

rough idea of how often I should eat a serving. The serving size varies between

lists, and since the lists are based on raw fruit rather than cooked, you have

to best-guess the figures. Most of them use a 100g serving, which is about a cup

-- but check the fine print on the list as some are larger serving figures.

Makes it somewhat difficult to be completely accurate, but the lists help to

give a good idea of which fruits to stay away from.

Remember that the serving size of dried fruit will be much smaller -- or rather

each piece of dried fruit contains a lot of sugar. I didn't touch a dried fruit

until my 4th year on SCD, based on my candida surge symptoms.

What worked for me was to keep my sugars down below 5g or 8g every other day

during my super drastic phase. But that's me, my body reacts to fruits, so even

now when my candida levels are under control I need to keep my fruits around 10g

per day in total. It is a metabolic issue (insulin response -- or lack of!)

I think a more " normal " goal would be 15g or under per day if you are dealing

with candida. But you may need to go lower, or be able to go higher, without

significant impact on your body or candida levels. You'll probably have to test

and experiment.

I use this fruit nutrition list often:

http://www.thefruitpages.com/contents.shtml

There are several others easily found online. Just search for " fruit nutrition "

I stayed away from honey completely, so never looked that up but you should be

able to find a nutrition summary for honey on a website somewhere.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

>

> >

> > Kat

> >

> > Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get

> > out of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else.

> > However you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a

> > med. like Prednisone. It is tricky.

> >

> > I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one like

> > garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

> > easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a

> > high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's

> > tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

> > antifungal – or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and mess

> > up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under control

> > just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer, but

> > had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.

> >

> > I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not, since

> > my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

> > other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most meds.

> > for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue for

> > a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion will

> > improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your gut

> > ecology and immune system stabilize.

> >

> > It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That will

> > help considerably.

> >

> > You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably

> > improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting through

> > the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing stages.

> > Things should get better over the months.

> >

> > Kim M.

> >

> > SCD 6 years

> >

> > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> >

> > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> >

> > I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because I

> > got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the same.

> > I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds can

> > be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big guns.

> > Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the

> > issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin too,

> > but I may have had a reaction to that in the past.

> >

> > My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are, it

> > seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to go

> > further into flare

> >

>

April 7, 2010

I stopped all fruits honey and any high carb veges abuot a year ago - doc said

put in cooked berries about 5 months ago maybe??? - but the less of this the

better - and i'm still loaded with yeast so the stricter the better I say IMO

eileen 2 years 3 months scd

> >

> > >

> > > Kat

> > >

> > > Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get

> > > out of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else.

> > > However you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a

> > > med. like Prednisone. It is tricky.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one

like

> > > garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

> > > easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a

> > > high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's

> > > tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

> > > antifungal – or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and mess

> > > up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under control

> > > just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer, but

> > > had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.

> > >

> > > I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not,

since

> > > my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

> > > other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most meds.

> > > for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue

for

> > > a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion will

> > > improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your

gut

> > > ecology and immune system stabilize.

> > >

> > > It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That

will

> > > help considerably.

> > >

> > > You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably

> > > improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting through

> > > the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing stages.

> > > Things should get better over the months.

> > >

> > > Kim M.

> > >

> > > SCD 6 years

> > >

> > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > >

> > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

> > >

> > > I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because I

> > > got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the

same.

> > > I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds

can

> > > be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big guns.

> > > Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the

> > > issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin too,

> > > but I may have had a reaction to that in the past.

> > >

> > > My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are, it

> > > seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to go

> > > further into flare

> > >

> >

>

April 7, 2010

Elieen,Have you been able to gain weight this way without the fruits?

__________________________________________________________________

CD

SCD 5 months

Lialda, Purinethol

Freeda Vitamins, L. Acidophilus, Cod Liver OilSubject: Re:Re: Decision about meds, was Re: dccc/yeastTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:07 AM

I stopped all fruits honey and any high carb veges abuot a year ago - doc said put in cooked berries about 5 months ago maybe??? - but the less of this the better - and i'm still loaded with yeast so the stricter the better I say IMO

eileen 2 years 3 months scd

> >

> > >

> > > Kat

> > >

> > > Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get

> > > out of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else.

> > > However you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a

> > > med. like Prednisone. It is tricky.

> > >

> > > I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one like

> > > garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

> > > easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a

> > > high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's

> > > tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

> > > antifungal â€“ or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and mess

> > > up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under control

> > > just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer, but

> > > had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.

> > >

> > > I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not, since

> > > my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

> > > other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most meds.

> > > for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue for

> > > a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion will

> > > improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your gut

> > > ecology and immune system stabilize.

> > >

> > > It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That will

> > > help considerably.

> > >

> > > You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably

> > > improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting through

> > > the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing stages.

> > > Things should get better over the months.

> > >

> > > Kim M.

> > >

> > > SCD 6 years

> > >

> > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > >

> > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

> > >

> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

> > >

> > > I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because I

> > > got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the same.

> > > I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds can

> > > be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big guns.

> > > Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the

> > > issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin too,

> > > but I may have had a reaction to that in the past.

> > >

> > > My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are, it

> > > seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to go

> > > further into flare

> > >

> >

>

April 7, 2010

-gained all my weight back and maybe a lb or 2 more :-)

eileen

>

> > >

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> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Kat

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get

>

> > > > out of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else.

>

> > > > However you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a

>

> > > > med. like Prednisone. It is tricky.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one

like

>

> > > > garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

>

> > > > easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a

>

> > > > high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's

>

> > > > tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

>

> > > > antifungal â€ " or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and

mess

>

> > > > up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under

control

>

> > > > just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer,

but

>

> > > > had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not,

since

>

> > > > my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

>

> > > > other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most

meds.

>

> > > > for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue

for

>

> > > > a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion

will

>

> > > > improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your

gut

>

> > > > ecology and immune system stabilize.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That

will

>

> > > > help considerably.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably

>

> > > > improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting

through

>

> > > > the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing

stages.

>

> > > > Things should get better over the months.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Kim M.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > SCD 6 years

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

>

> > > >

>

> > > > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because

I

>

> > > > got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the

same.

>

> > > > I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds

can

>

> > > > be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big

guns.

>

> > > > Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the

>

> > > > issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin

too,

>

> > > > but I may have had a reaction to that in the past.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are,

it

>

> > > > seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to

go

>

> > > > further into flare

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

April 7, 2010

Thanks for the link Kim. I was trying to computer fruit/honey to sugar in the same amounts as you would on prednisone since I've just started LDN last month.

I don't use honey often anymore except to cook, not to just eat. I've gained a few also ;-). Wouldn't honey count as a fruit?

Sorry to be dense, just some brain fog going on haha,

Oh, was going to mention you're supposed to watch your salt intake also on prednisone. I do not have the amounts though. I don't think it was very much or it didn't seem like it then. I wonder also if that would apply to LDn.

debbie 40 cd

DebbieWhen I was in my drastic yeast elimination SCD phase, I used the fruit nutrition lists frequently to determine the sugar content per serving. This nutrition data helped me select which fruits I would use (lowest in sugar), and then give me a rough idea of how often I should eat a serving. The serving size varies between lists, and since the lists are based on raw fruit rather than cooked, you have to best-guess the figures. Most of them use a 100g serving, which is about a cup -- but check the fine print on the list as some are larger serving figures. Makes it somewhat difficult to be completely accurate, but the lists help to give a good idea of which fruits to stay away from.

Remember that the serving size of dried fruit will be much smaller -- or rather each piece of dried fruit contains a lot of sugar. I didn't touch a dried fruit until my 4th year on SCD, based on my candida surge symptoms.

What worked for me was to keep my sugars down below 5g or 8g every other day during my super drastic phase. But that's me, my body reacts to fruits, so even now when my candida levels are under control I need to keep my fruits around 10g per day in total. It is a metabolic issue (insulin response -- or lack of!)

I think a more " normal " goal would be 15g or under per day if you are dealing with candida. But you may need to go lower, or be able to go higher, without significant impact on your body or candida levels. You'll probably have to test and experiment.

I use this fruit nutrition list often:http://www.thefruitpages.com/contents.shtmlThere are several others easily found online. Just search for " fruit nutrition "

I stayed away from honey completely, so never looked that up but you should be able to find a nutrition summary for honey on a website somewhere. Kim M.SCD 6 years

>

April 7, 2010

I've read the opposite as well. Someone posted that her immunologist told her to

eat fruits, because avoiding it all together makes the candida dig its roots

further into the gut to find sugar. Another person's doctor said that yeast

accompany bacteria, and that by decreasing the bacteria, the yeast will decrease

as well.

It seems that, unfortunately, there is not an agreement on how best to decrease

yeast :-(

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> I stopped all fruits honey and any high carb veges abuot a year ago - doc said

put in cooked berries about 5 months ago maybe??? - but the less of this the

better - and i'm still loaded with yeast so the stricter the better I say IMO

> eileen 2 years 3 months scd

April 9, 2010

Thanks Kim and thanks everyone for helping me get some prespective. I think that

eating my low-sugar fruits (all I am eating is blueberries, avocado and moderate

pear), and only being on 10mg of prednisone, I'm going to start the LDN as soon

as I can. It sounds like it has helped so many people, and I am hoping it will

help me too, despite the modest yeast problem. If I can taper off prednisone

even a little I'm sure it will help with the yeasts, which will help with the

LDN, and we can get this cycle going in the right direction!

On another note, I just did an epsom salt bath with lots of epsom salt at it

helped tremendously. I was getting so negative and depressed these last couple

days. I did some deep relaxing visualizations and " let go, " remembering my yoga

training, and voila - an evening of standing up straight, asserting myself as

needed and seeing/feeling my third chakra spinning around happily. My pain is

less and I've only gone once since then, with less pain.

It's funny - when I chose to just go forward and heal, I remember all my

strength, and my symptoms improve. I remember all my options too and they seem

very manageable and I am more decisive. When I doubt myself I actually feel my

energy drop way down to mid-level on my body. Symptoms, especially pain, get

worse.

If anyone else has gone through this or used visualization or meditation to

heal, let me know! I'd love to chat. It seems to be working for me pretty well.

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

Prednisone, acyclovir, probiotics, limited supplements

>

> Kat

>

> Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get out

> of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else. However

> you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a med. like

> Prednisone. It is tricky.

>

> I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one like

> garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

> easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a

> high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's

> tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

> antifungal - or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and mess

> up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under control

> just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer, but

> had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.

>

> I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not, since

> my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

> other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most meds.

> for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue for

> a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion will

> improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your gut

> ecology and immune system stabilize.

>

> It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That will

> help considerably.

>

> You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably

> improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting through

> the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing stages.

> Things should get better over the months.

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

>

> neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because I

> got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the same.

> I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds can

> be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big guns.

> Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the

> issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin too,

> but I may have had a reaction to that in the past.

>

> My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are, it

> seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to go

> further into flare

>

April 9, 2010

I visualize, meditate and use the Silva Method. Well, I was heavily into it when I became ill. After that, I simply fell asleep. Now I'm starting to be able to stay awake but even doing mundane chores can have a calming effect if you focus on it.

I have the same energy drops when I get too negative or feel too stressed. It's good to be mindful of that because it's a good indicator on direction.

Oddly enough, I've wanted to try yoga and I received a 10-day free pass to check it out. I'm excited. I really don't know anything about it but I'm excited!

I'd still like to try muscle testing for foods and supplements. It would be a great short-cut to avoiding the wrong foods and supplements/medicines.

Debbie 40 cd

Thanks Kim and thanks everyone for helping me get some prespective. I think that eating my low-sugar fruits (all I am eating is blueberries, avocado and moderate pear), and only being on 10mg of prednisone, I'm going to start the LDN as soon as I can. It sounds like it has helped so many people, and I am hoping it will help me too, despite the modest yeast problem. If I can taper off prednisone even a little I'm sure it will help with the yeasts, which will help with the LDN, and we can get this cycle going in the right direction!

On another note, I just did an epsom salt bath with lots of epsom salt at it helped tremendously. I was getting so negative and depressed these last couple days. I did some deep relaxing visualizations and " let go, " remembering my yoga training, and voila - an evening of standing up straight, asserting myself as needed and seeing/feeling my third chakra spinning around happily. My pain is less and I've only gone once since then, with less pain.

It's funny - when I chose to just go forward and heal, I remember all my strength, and my symptoms improve. I remember all my options too and they seem very manageable and I am more decisive. When I doubt myself I actually feel my energy drop way down to mid-level on my body. Symptoms, especially pain, get worse.

If anyone else has gone through this or used visualization or meditation to heal, let me know! I'd love to chat. It seems to be working for me pretty well.

Kat27UC since June 09SCD since Feb 10Prednisone, acyclovir, probiotics, limited supplements

>> Kat> > >

> Being on an immune-suppressant like Prednisone means that yeast will get out> of hand, so you have to deal with them along with everything else. However> you also want to get your UC under control, which means taking a med. like

> Prednisone. It is tricky. > > > > I wouldn't take another antifungal for a while, not even a natural one like> garlic or lemon juice. I would just focus on finding foods that are

> easy-to-digest but also are lower in carbs and sugars. Or don't have a> high-carb food more than every other day or every two days. I know it's> tough, but eventually your body can heal enough that it will tolerate an

> antifungal - or not. I can't take antifungals (allergic response and mess> up my digestion), and with time I got my candida overgrowth under control> just be limiting or avoiding the yeast trigger foods. It took longer, but

> had the big advantage of being a lot less stressful on my body.> > > > I haven't had to make the decision whether to take prednisone or not, since> my digestive disorders are functional and not IBD. But perhaps you have

> other options to prednisone? Unfortunately I would think that most meds.> for UC will be immune-suppressant, which means candida will be an issue for> a while. However if you can get the bleeding stopped, your digestion will

> improve enough that eventually the candida levels will come down as your gut> ecology and immune system stabilize.> > > > It is terrific that you can still handle a probiotic supplement. That will

> help considerably.> > > > You haven't been on SCD a very long time, so I'd say you are probably> improving a bit even if you can't tell yet. You are just getting through

> the worst of the detoxing phase, now should come the early healing stages.> Things should get better over the months.> > > > Kim M.> > SCD 6 years> > Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

> > neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >

> I also tried raw garlic, which I think totally screwed things up because I> got a lot more pain and new D after that. Lemon juice seems to be the same.> I was on clotrimazole for thrush, but I read that taking anti-yeast meds can

> be very harsh, and I want to heal up more before bringing in the big guns.> Not sure if this is counterproductive since yeasts could be causing the> issues that I am waiting to heal from. People have suggested nystatin too,

> but I may have had a reaction to that in the past. > > My concern is that the yeasts are contributing to the UC. If they are, it> seems counterproductive to stay on the prednisone, but I don't want to go

> further into flare>

April 9, 2010

Hi all I'm really hoping someone could answer my question here. I've been doing the SCD diet seriously for about 4 months. I've been a lot better.BUT I recently noticed that the maintenance meds that I take (mesalamine pills- Claversal) has certain binders that contain potato starch, which can only imagine is illegal. Also, its been recommended that I take pentasa enemas, because I'm currently taking entrecord enemas (which don't, I believe, have any illegals). The pentasa enemas actually have sugar- if I understand correctly! These common meds are used to keep the disease under control, if I stop taking them I could flare out of control, and yet they go contrary to the disease. I'm trying to taper my Claversal dosage, but as for finding a replacement for the entrecort enemas, that is "legal"this is definately a problem.It seems our maintenance meds are completely inundated with illegals!!!Any insight would be GREATLY appreciated!Thanks EmadTo: BTVC-SCD From: texdebl@...Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 04:49:15 -0500Subject: Re: Re:Re: Decision about meds, was Re: dccc/yeast

I visualize, meditate and use the Silva Method. Well, I was heavily into it when I became ill. After that, I simply fell asleep. Now I'm starting to be able to stay awake but even doing mundane chores can have a calming effect if you focus on it.

I have the same energy drops when I get too negative or feel too stressed. It's good to be mindful of that because it's a good indicator on direction.

Oddly enough, I've wanted to try yoga and I received a 10-day free pass to check it out. I'm excited. I really don't know anything about it but I'm excited!

I'd still like to try muscle testing for foods and supplements. It would be a great short-cut to avoiding the wrong foods and supplements/medicines.

Debbie 40 cd

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:04 AM, evenstrangerquark <evenstrangerquark (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Thanks Kim and thanks everyone for helping me get some prespective. I think that eating my low-sugar fruits (all I am eating is blueberries, avocado and moderate pear), and only being on 10mg of prednisone, I'm going to start the LDN as soon as I can. It sounds like it has helped so many people, and I am hoping it will help me too, despite the modest yeast problem. If I can taper off prednisone even a little I'm sure it will help with the yeasts, which will help with the LDN, and we can get this cycle going in the right direction!

On another note, I just did an epsom salt bath with lots of epsom salt at it helped tremendously. I was getting so negative and depressed these last couple days. I did some deep relaxing visualizations and "let go," remembering my yoga training, and voila - an evening of standing up straight, asserting myself as needed and seeing/feeling my third chakra spinning around happily. My pain is less and I've only gone once since then, with less pain.