Re: Re: Are this legal Antioxidants?

[Guest guest]

I am not an expert on the legality of bacon.However, I understand that you have to make sure it wasn't cured with sugars. So, bacon chips = probably not..However, friend, you are on the wrong path. Bacon is not good for you. Those are real bad fats. And, cured meats are loaded with dangerous toxins. Work with yourself: not against. Heal your body. Don't make things worse

Best,

 

I found a bacon chips that contains some of this antioxidants and I Was wondering if it was SCD legal.

It contains: Citric acid esters of mono and diglycerides of fatty acids, Alpha-tocopherol and Tocopherols.

karianne

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> > E300 Ascorbic acid

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> > E301 Sodium ascorbate

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> > E304 Fatty acid esters of ascorbic acid

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> > E308 Gamma-tocopherol

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> > E309 Delta-tocopherol

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> > E310 Propyl gallate

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> > E311 Octyl gallate

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> > E312 Dodecyl gallate

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> > E315 Erythorbic acid

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> > E316 Sodium erythorbate

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> > E320 Butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA)

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> > E321 Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT)

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[Guest guest]

At 02:48 AM 4/17/2010, you wrote:

>> I am not an expert on the legality of bacon. However, I

understand that you have to make sure it wasn't cured with sugars.

<<

That is correct.

>> So, bacon chips =

probably not..<<

Commercial bacon chips, highly likely not.

>> However, friend, you

are on the wrong path. Bacon is not good for you. Those are real bad

fats. And, cured meats are loaded with dangerous toxins. Work with

yourself: not against. Heal your body. Don't make things worse

<<

Why is bacon " real bad fats " ?

What " dangerous toxins " are cured meats " loaded

with " ?

Making statements of this nature without backing it up with facts is a

real no-no around here. There is nothing in BTVC which addresses this, so

it must have come from somewhere else. Where?

I haven't had a chance to look up the specific European E-codes which

Karianne asked about, but in general, tocopherols are just Vitamin E and

ascorbic acid is Vitamin C, so no problem there. The BHA and BHT I would

steer clear of: I have to go look up why, which I'm not inclined to do at

3:00 am when I'm coughing my fool head off, but I do remember, from 12

years ago, that Shadow and Sunny's breeder warned us not to feed them any

food which contained either of those, so I pretty well figure that if my

dogs shouldn't eat it, neither should I. (The reverse is not necessarily

true, since they eat raw chicken wings, raw turkey necks, and raw pork

ribs regularly.)

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

real bad fats in bacon = long-chain saturated fats, hard fats. That is what makes it so 'greasy'. those sticky fats, that cause so much trouble in our bodies. especially in terms of heart problems, but elsewhere too. Basically, you want to generally eat fats that are liquid at room temperature, or at least body temperature. not hard. short-chain and medium-chain saturated fats are better saturated fats. It's important to make sure you are not eating too many long-chain saturated fats. Bacon is loaded with them.

Also, most people fry bacon. This can corrupt any good fats in bacon, causing more problems.long-chain saturated fats in food like hamburgers which are important in the early stages of the SCD are much less than in bacon, and in consideration of the large amount of nutrition and nourishment (especially healthy fats like omega-9) available along with them in the burgers, I think worth consuming. However, there is a lot more hard fats in bacon, and not a whole heck of a lot of good nutrition, in comparison with burgers. And, when my burgers have been in the fridge and I take them out, I tend to scrape off the hard white globules that have condensed of hard fat. And when I boil beef, I skim the hard fats off the surface.

I refer anyone and everyone to Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill by Udo Erasmus. do not be intimidated by the technicality of the first couple chapters though, the rest is a very accessible read. Great book. I think everyone, at least in Western culture, should read it, and own it.

As far as the toxins in cured meats go, there was some discussion on the thread about sausages called " More questions! " on April 16th and I wrote some stuff there. I don't know how to link it here. I really don't know where to direct people for good sources. Marilyn, you are asking where my information is coming from. I've been studying nutrition and health as I can in my spare time for over a decade, I would have no idea how to begin citing the myriad sources I've been through and researched on years and years ago. No one pays me to do this. I can't afford to compile a library. I don't have paper trail. I confirm something as necessary for my purposes, and move on, sustaining individual resources if they are unusually promising for future reference on a far more diverse level of subjects. which is almost not at all, do to the specificity of most research and information. I understand the need for some sort of accountability and reliability. I have mentioned nothing that I did not think was all but general knowledge in the health foods field, if not a general awareness in our culture. Who hasn't heard that bacon is bad for you? don't we know better by now? Don't we all know better what is good and bad for us? Don't we know better how to take care of ourselves? If we really listened to ourselves, and what we knew? And let go of the brainwashing override that we've sustained in our consumer culture? Don't we know what junk food is by now? And about fresh food? Why don't we listen? There is a better way. It's hard to change at first, but it can be done, and it's worth it.

My favorite quote of the week is from my friend, she told me about a NY times article about a book on food, with tips like " don't eat anything you've seen a commercial for " What a great concept!! I love how that counteracts the unhealthy bizarre denial culture we have around food culture.

As for the toxins in cured meats, we've talked about nitrites/nitrates in the other thread, and their carcinogenity. I do have a link to an article I pulled awhile ago for a friend about the World Health Organization recommending against pickles, it was hard to find such an article digitally searching through google about pickles because there was so much non-relevant results from my search terms. In that article they also recommend against cured meats, and bacon is mentioned. However, this article is very badly translated into english. Here is the relevant subheader though, in an article about the World Health Organizations recommendations for the prevention of cancer:

" Article II. Do not eat smoked, preserved food, such as smoked fish, bacon, pickles, etc., these foods can produce carcinogens - nitrite. " http://www.articlealley.com/article_818946_17.htmlI tried poking around on the World Health Organizations own site to see if I could find a good english version of that or a similar article. They have so much darn information though that I couldn't find exactly that article, I invite anyone to poke around they do mention bacon and cancer in their recommendations in lots of articles.

Personally, I would be concerned about the toxic nature of components of cured meats not just in terms of cancer, but i don't like putting toxins in my body in general, as then it can stress detoxification systems etc.

Anyways, best wishes all. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:

 

At 02:48 AM 4/17/2010, you wrote:

>> I am not an expert on the legality of bacon. However, I

understand that you have to make sure it wasn't cured with sugars.

<<

That is correct.

>> So, bacon chips =

probably not..<<

Commercial bacon chips, highly likely not.

>> However, friend, you

are on the wrong path. Bacon is not good for you. Those are real bad

fats. And, cured meats are loaded with dangerous toxins. Work with

yourself: not against. Heal your body. Don't make things worse

<<

Why is bacon " real bad fats " ?

What " dangerous toxins " are cured meats " loaded

with " ?

Making statements of this nature without backing it up with facts is a

real no-no around here. There is nothing in BTVC which addresses this, so

it must have come from somewhere else. Where?

I haven't had a chance to look up the specific European E-codes which

Karianne asked about, but in general, tocopherols are just Vitamin E and

ascorbic acid is Vitamin C, so no problem there. The BHA and BHT I would

steer clear of: I have to go look up why, which I'm not inclined to do at

3:00 am when I'm coughing my fool head off, but I do remember, from 12

years ago, that Shadow and Sunny's breeder warned us not to feed them any

food which contained either of those, so I pretty well figure that if my

dogs shouldn't eat it, neither should I. (The reverse is not necessarily

true, since they eat raw chicken wings, raw turkey necks, and raw pork

ribs regularly.)

 

—

Marilyn

    New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

    Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

    Darn Good SCD Cook

    No Human Children

    Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

    Babette the Foundling Beagle

       

[Guest guest]

At 06:11 AM 4/17/2010, you wrote:

I refer anyone and everyone to

Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill by Udo Erasmus.

do not be intimidated by the technicality of the first couple chapters

though, the rest is a very accessible read. Great book. I think everyone,

at least in Western culture, should read it, and own it.

And I, in turn, refer anyone to the Weston A Price Foundation.

http://www.westonaprice.org/Know-Your-Fats/index.php

I respect your interest in helping people regain their health. I also

understand what it is to look up something for yourself, and then not

have the reference readily to hand. I have 12,000 books in my house, and

yes, I have read most of them.

>> I have mentioned nothing that I did not think was all but

general knowledge in the health foods field, if not a general awareness

in our culture. Who hasn't heard that bacon is bad for you? don't we know

better by now? Don't we all know better what is good and bad for us?

Don't we know better how to take care of ourselves? If we really listened

to ourselves, and what we knew? And let go of the brainwashing override

that we've sustained in our consumer culture? Don't we know what junk

food is by now? And about fresh food? Why don't we listen? There is a

better way. It's hard to change at first, but it can be done, and it's

worth it. <<

Common knowledge is that we should all be eating low fat.

Common knowledge is that we all need lots of fiber in our diet.

Common knowledge is that we should all be eating lots of complex

carbohydrates.

Common knowledge is that eggs are bad for you -- oops, they did modify

that a few years ago.

Common knowledge is that eating fats causes high cholesterol.

Common knowledge is that diabetics should eat lots of protein and complex

carbs and avoid fat.

Common knowledge is that we need grains.

And all that common knowledge is wrong.

Fat from pastured, grass-fed animals is healthy.

We don't need nearly the amount of fiber we're told in order to have

healthy guts.

Complex carbs and grains feed the bad bacteria in our guts and perpetuate

the vicious cycle of our illness.

Eggs, especially eggs from pastured and free range hens, are a very

nearly complete food and we should eat up.

Diabetics have a disorder of the carbohydrate metabolism; why then,

should they eat foods they can't metabolize?

Meats, vegetables, fruits, nuts, cheeses, healthy oils, properly prepared

yogurt. That is what constitutes a healthy diet. Demonstrated to work for

more than sixty years.

Now, how you prepare your food is up to your particular tastes and needs.

I'm not a raw food faddist, although I like many vegetables and fruits

raw. I happen to like cooked food. I like to bake it, grill it, smoke it,

boil it, fry it, you name it. I like to ferment milk into yogurt. I enjoy

legal cheeses (and this is one food I do not yet make for myself). I love

fresh food, freshly prepared. But I also love the convenience of

preparing extra meals and having them in the freezer so that sometimes I

don't have to cook.

SCD follows different rules from those of the present " Common

Wisdom. "

Sometimes it is hard to wrap your head around the changes you must make

in your thinking.

This is an SCD list, and therefore, recommendations need to be suitable

to the SCD way of thinking, even if that does not run parallel to Common

Knowledge. Most of us are here because Common Knowledge failed us.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I respect your interest in helping people regain their health.Thank you. 

I also

understand what it is to look up something for yourself, and then not

have the reference readily to hand. I have 12,000 books in my house, and

yes, I have read most of them.Great. You then seem potentially very competent in taking on further research. I would strongly invite you acquire Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill and read it. I would buy it for you if I had the money. This would expand yours and our general knowledge, that will probably last long beyond when I can spend much time on this list.

 

>> I have mentioned nothing that I did not think was all but

general knowledge in the health foods field, if not a general awareness

in our culture. Who hasn't heard that bacon is bad for you? don't we know

better by now? Don't we all know better what is good and bad for us?

Don't we know better how to take care of ourselves? If we really listened

to ourselves, and what we knew? And let go of the brainwashing override

that we've sustained in our consumer culture? Don't we know what junk

food is by now? And about fresh food? Why don't we listen? There is a

better way. It's hard to change at first, but it can be done, and it's

worth it. <<

Common knowledge is that we should all be eating low fat.

Common knowledge is that we all need lots of fiber in our diet.

Common knowledge is that we should all be eating lots of complex

carbohydrates.

Common knowledge is that eggs are bad for you -- oops, they did modify

that a few years ago.

Common knowledge is that eating fats causes high cholesterol.

Common knowledge is that diabetics should eat lots of protein and complex

carbs and avoid fat.

Common knowledge is that we need grains.

And all that common knowledge is wrong.True. I did start out by saying 'general knowledge in health foods', but I did invite this. I could NOT agree more that general cultural information on food is extremely wrong, I was referring to this when I said our 'unhealthy bizarre denial culture around food culture'

" Common knowledge is that we should all be eating low fat. " This comes from two major mistakes. One, the bizarre, malinformed weight loss crazes. Two, in western culture too many bad fats are eaten, and when good fats are eaten (omega-3, omega-6, omega-9, monounsaturated and some saturated fats) they are not eaten in balance, causing more problems. Also, good fats are often prepared dangerously by overheating in processing or cooking, creating corruption like trans-fats. Also, enough variety of fruits and vegetables etc. are not eaten providing enough anti-oxidants, and too many factors stressing anti-oxidants like alcohol and coffee etc. and stressed society cause a unhealthy situation where the good fats that are eaten are corrupted in the body, causing health problems. Some people have floated the idea of reducing consumption of good fats to mitigate this. I consider this throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Just solve the anti-oxidant problem. It's gonna get you anyways, one way or another.

" Fat from pastured, grass-fed animals is healthy. " I could not agree more that animals that get exercise and are fed grasses (a source of omega-3) have healthier fat content and ratios than otherwise.

" Common knowledge is that we all need lots of fiber in our diet. " Well, this is mostly reactionary to the extremely low fiber diets that westerners, especially Americans have, in terms of eating too much refined foods that have had their fiber removed, almost no if any fruits or vegetables, and lots and lots of meat (way more than almost all, if not all, other countries) that has no fiber, and can cause backups unless you then add fiber to help the fact that the colon is now full of meat and sugar, and people also talk about using fiber to undo the problems that then result in terms of arterial deterioration and the increase of cholesterol that the body uses to mitigate that arterial deterioration. If you just ate what is healthy and balanced in other terms, with varieties of fruits and vegetables (a healthy balance of soluble and insoluble fiber), you really would never need to pay attention or think about fiber issues or how much fiber you eat, because you would already have plenty.

" We don't need nearly the amount of fiber we're told in order to have

healthy guts. " I agree. The emphasis on fiber is just about mitigating bad eating habits. I think it's ridiculous to approach people and justify eating fruits and vegetables because of their fiber content. You need them anyways. But that is what happens a lot, most people don't care until they get constipated, or hemorroids, or heart disease.

" Common knowledge is that we should all be eating lots of complex

carbohydrates. " Well, you do need them. If you don't get them, pretty much the body will start ripping the nitrogen off some protein and converting it into complex carbs. Which it's not real good at, and strains it. Hence the problems Atkins people had. I don't really have good guidelines on " lots " of complex carbs, I don't think you should consume " lots " or too much of anything, and I just think you have to find a balance.

" Complex carbs and grains feed the bad bacteria in our guts and perpetuate

the vicious cycle of our illness. " Bingo. But, I don't think anyone doesn't think that our illness is not an exception to general dietary guidelines, nor thinks everyone should give up the stuff we have to give up. Also, I'm extremely greatful that carrots are a part of the intro diet, because they are indeed a source of complex carbs, and a very useful source.

" Common knowledge is that eggs are bad for you -- oops, they did modify

that a few years ago. " " Eggs, especially eggs from pastured and free range hens, are a very

nearly complete food and we should eat up. " I agree that eggs are a great source of complete protein, can be therapeutic in terms of medicinal use, especially in Chinese medicine, and are a good source of a very unusually large variety of minerals and vitamins. I would not hesitate to eat egg yolks indefinitely, if your body so desires. I would not go crazy with the yolks though, I would keep an eye on my yolk consumption to make sure that fat consumption ratios stay healthy. I also think that egg yolks, especially soft boiled yolks, maybe even raw (if that's safe?), are practically indespensible in usefulness for nourishment and healing in some illnesses, especially ours.

" Common knowledge is that eating fats causes high cholesterol. " Yeah, I hate this. I attribute it to corruption, politics, and marketing.High cholesterol is caused when not enough anti-oxidants are eaten to keep in balance with their consumption by the body under normal or stressful conditions, and good fats in the body corrupt. This can create arterial weakness, the body utilizes cholesterol, which is a stiffener, to shore up parts of the arteries. Unfortunately, with other antagonizers, this can lead eventually to arterial obstruction. Bad news.

However, the body does have some trouble processing huge quantities of cholesterol, especially because it's almost always associate with saturated fats, which it needs to keep in balance. I wouldn't worry about watching my cholesterol consumption, I would just make sure my fats consumption is balanced. Cholesterol is necessary and some is healthy, if you don't eat it, your body will just make it's own from saturated fats. That's what vegans do.

" Common knowledge is that diabetics should eat lots of protein and complex

carbs and avoid fat. " I had not heard this. It's ridiculous. Actually, Udo has great things to say about diabetes. " Common knowledge is that we need grains. " Well, grains are and traditionally have been a reliable, storable source of complex carbohydrates, protein, and vitamins and minerals. All those things can be gotten from other foods. It's more expensive, but it can be done.

Also, it is interesting to investigate whether or not and how well humans are adapted to eating grains. It is interesting to investigate physiological adaptation throughout evolution to changes in food supply and technology. Perhaps we could have a separate discussion on it sometime.

" SCD follows different rules from those of the present " Common

Wisdom. " " thank god.

" This is an SCD list, and therefore, recommendations need to be suitable

to the SCD way of thinking, " I have no jive with SCD at all, am grateful to it for helping to save my life, and I totally respect the need to maintain the integrity of the digestibility of the diet, and the integrity of this list, and you have not seen me make a suggestion that is illegal or would deviate from the diet. I also understand the usefulness and importance of foods like bacon and saccharin in transitioning reluctant patients, especially difficult children, onto the diet. However, I think they should be used cautiously and in the short term.

" Most of us are here because Common Knowledge failed us. "

Exactly. And I think this is a GREAT opportunity to go beyond and seek out further GOOD knowledge, and a deeper sense of how to find and judge truth and ourselves. Why on earth just stop at what our guts " can " digest? Why not seek out knowledge on how to eat healthily within that framework, keep things balanced, and make good choices? Elaine speaks of the importance of not overemphasizing one food, and keeping things in balance. She also speaks of even when your gut heals and can go back to tolerating common western diets, she advises against the ills, and eating things like refined grains and sugars. Just because a food won't aggrevate this illness, why eat it if it will cause another? Or any problems?

Everyone is their own best guide to learning about and making decisions on their own health. I encourage everyone to prioritize learning to nourish themselves through food, especially since now on this diet, you have to think a little bit more about it. I try and help when I can, I wish I could help more. Mostly I can point people in directions, and maybe suggest readings. If I see someone asking questions about foods that I know have health concerns, I warn them, as I wish they would warn me. I'm not the only one, we all do that. And we all ask eachother for advice on these issues.

I wish the best for us all, and Marilyn I would like to take this opportunity to express my respect for you and what you do, and my gratitude for how much you have helped me, you have no idea, and how much you help the people of this list.

When I spoke of listening to ourselves and what we already know, I was not really talking about common knowledge, I was talking about inner truth, that we really know what's right and wrong more than we realize, and we don't listen. we also know the right paths to start on for more truth and good knowledge. Often people are used to ignoring their bodies, their minds, their hearts, their better judgement. And I see them making bad choices, mistakes, or neglecting things, when I know they know better. I've been there. I'm sad that I was. I don't think it's really our faults, I think we were raised that way, I think it's cultural, and I think it's part of growing up and becoming responsible for yourself and for society, to realize there is a problem, and to try and undo it, and learn to live in ways that are healthy for yourself and others. For some it is a steeper slope than others. Lord knows it was for me. I am envious that so many people come to this diet and this list better prepared and better off, better functioning than I was when I became an adult.

Part of the ideas behind the SCD are learning to listen to your bodies, you have to judge symptoms and make sure things are in balance and that you are getting healthy. Also, part of the ideas are to learn to think about what you eat, to make informed, conscious decisions about what is healthy for you. That is what I am about. That is all that I am about. Now, we have to think about what we eat. Let's do that. Let's learn, and think about what we eat.

Thanks guys,

[Guest guest]

Do you guys have pork rinds (pork, salt).  You can get them everywhere here--grocery, gas stations.  Also, they have things like dehydrated snap peas, salt.  the bag is medium-sized and they usually have them at Whole Foods or a healthy grocery store.  I do not think they are legal (at least not for me).

 

I could only see a picture, not ingredients.  Does it have to be pre-packaged?  What about butternut squash fries or fruit like banana, grapes?  Peanut butter and apples if you can find sugar-free peanut butter or almond butter. 

 

Sorry, M will respond to you properly. 

 

Good luck, I saw a non-SCd recipe earlier today.  Basically, you make SCD peanut butter brownies (or use pecan butter instead) and add a handful or two of salted peanuts just for crunch.  Sounds good to me for some reason and easy enough.

 

Debbie 40 cd

[Guest guest]

Well, you do need them. If you don't get them, pretty much the body will start ripping the nitrogen off some protein and converting it into complex carbs. Which it's not real good at, and strains it. Hence the problems Atkins people had. I don't really have good guidelines on "lots" of complex carbs, I don't think you should consume "lots" or too much of anything, and I just think you have to find a balance.Isn't the point of the SCD that NO complex carbs are allowed? Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

Also, it is interesting to investigate whether or not and how well humans are adapted to eating grains. It is interesting to investigate physiological adaptation throughout evolution to changes in food supply and technology. On the same note of trying to eat what we've evolved to eat; wouldn't you say that we evolved to eat plenty of saturated fats in animal products? I mean, we were hunter-gatherers, so it makes sense that we would be eating a lot of meat, and fat from that meat, which is mostly saturated. I know that with the Paleo diet, which the SCD is very similar to, they encourage high intake of saturated fats because they believe that's what we evolved to eat. Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

Negative. carrots are a great source of starch. Think of it like this: all fiber is also complex carbohydrate. We all know that all our fruits and veggies have lots of fiber, right?http://nutrition.about.com/od/askyournutritionist/f/complex.htm

That's why it's called the " Specific " carbohydrate diet. The nuances of which ones are digestable, and when, in what stages, are beyond me. This is prob part of the reason we have to cook our carrots for so long though... and puree them

Best

 

Well, you do need them. If you don't get them, pretty much the body will start ripping the nitrogen off some protein and converting it into complex carbs. Which it's not real good at, and strains it. Hence the problems Atkins people had. I don't really have good guidelines on " lots " of complex carbs, I don't think you should consume " lots " or too much of anything, and I just think you have to find a balance.

Isn't the point of the SCD that NO complex carbs are allowed?

Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)

Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day

[Guest guest]

I am glad you asked :)When humans were evolving physically, and for quite awhile after, they were eating _wild_ animals. Game. These animals exercise constantly, their meat is extremely lean in comparison with domesticated animals, especially, in the extreme, feed lot animals.

Because of this, and because those humans ate more balanced diets than most westerners, not only did they get less saturated fat, but their good fats were in better ratio. omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids are believed to have been in the approximate ratio of 1:4 back then. In Western culture now, they are usually 1:20. This is an underlying factor in most degenerative diseases that are plaguing the West, and is the reason that omega-6 is offend incorrectly disparaged as undesirable or bad for you. It is essential to get it in diet. It is good for you. But, you must keep it in balance.

Also, we feed our domesticated livestock terribly. Marilyn touched on this when she said grass fed. That is a good source of omega-3. Most livestock are not grassfed. Compare a cow you see on a feed lot, or raised in the sparse deserts of Arizona, to one roaming around in green fields in Vermont. You will see very stupid animals in the one, and much smarter, quicker reacting ones in the other. That is because, amongst other things, omega-3 is essential to brain development. As a result, people frequently disparage livestock as being remarkably unintelligent, when often they are just malfed.

Different bodies suggest different intake for saturated fats daily, ranging from 4-10% of calories taken. Udo breaks them down great. I would be careful with it. It's hard to when you're on the intro and eatin' lots o' burger, and then I would not worry about it too much, unless you have severe adrenal problems which it can aggrevate, And, (when not in intro or severely restricted) I would really be careful about having much long-chain saturated fat in that 4-10% of saturated fat in daily calories. It's better if you have healthier saturated fats, like short or medium chained ones. My favorite is coconut oil, it's great for you.

Lemme know if you have further questions

 

Also, it is interesting to investigate whether or not and how well humans are adapted to eating grains. It is interesting to investigate physiological adaptation throughout evolution to changes in food supply and technology. 

On the same note of trying to eat what we've evolved to eat; wouldn't you say that we evolved to eat plenty of saturated fats in animal products? I mean, we were hunter-gatherers, so it makes sense that we would be eating a lot of meat, and fat from that meat, which is mostly saturated. I know that with the Paleo diet, which the SCD is very similar to, they encourage high intake of saturated fats because they believe that's what we evolved to eat.

Peace =)Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)

Azathioprine 50 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 30 mg 1x per day