Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Marcia, There are also inherent risks with the BPD. The DS improved upon the BPD maybe I am just stupid I am willing to admit that I am not the brightest star in the sky! But my understanding of the DS is that it improved upon the original Scopinaro the BPD. So how can someone be contra-indicated for the DS and not the BPD? LISBETH (who is not trying to be a smart ass funny or a jack ass but just truley doesnt understand) Marty Kanter wrote: The problem is, Lizbeth, that people ARE misunderstanding Dr. Ren's ethics and motives. She has explained that she feels that there are risks inherent in the DS, not inherent in BPD. She explains ALL options available and if the patient, the INFORMED patient, then wishes to continue on with the DS, I haven't heard of her refusing to do it yet. That's the point I've been trying to make! Marcia Re: Amazing! In a message dated 10/21/01 10:18:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duodenalswitch writes: << Please take into consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. >> I find it incredibly amazing that the very people who got the DS because they decided it was right for them don't care that their surgeon doesn't want to do it anymore. Instead of caring about her future patients so they can have the same opportunity that YOU had, you ask others not to judge the surgeon and you still stick up for her. Incredible. And, sorry, but I will judge when I think a surgeon is wrong. Its my right to have a choice of the surgery I want. its the right of any future Ren or patients to have the same choice. But you seem to think it isn't, and since you already " got yours " it doesn''t matter. Carole ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2001 Report Share Posted October 22, 2001 Lizbeth, Your questions are valid. And I don't feel that anyone who poses such questions is a jackass or a smartass. All I've been saying is that patients who have been informed of all the variables of the different procedures have the right to choose that which supplies their own perceived needs. For example, I breezed through my lap surgery. Do I have the right to be judgmental about those who chose to have it done open or lap-assisted. Do I have the right to denigrate the surgeons who chose to do it differently than my own surgeon. I should hope not! I made an informed decision about the procedure I wanted and the method in which it was to be done. Other people should have the same right. The key words here are INFORMED and PERSONAL CHOICE. I, too, would turn against any surgeon who didn't fully inform a perspective patient of all the facts. But from all I have heard, and I spoke with a Ren pre-op tonight, she is supplying all necessary information on all procedures. Let's face it, we patients have the ultimate responsibility to get, process, and make use of all information, and, ultimately, to decide how we feel we can best live our lives. It's the surgeon's responsibility to put his/her knowledge, skill and experience to use in implementing our choice. Marcia Re: Amazing! In a message dated 10/21/01 10:18:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duodenalswitch writes: << Please take into consideration a person's particular problem might be other than what YOU experience, and that they might need other treatment. >> I find it incredibly amazing that the very people who got the DS because they decided it was right for them don't care that their surgeon doesn't want to do it anymore. Instead of caring about her future patients so they can have the same opportunity that YOU had, you ask others not to judge the surgeon and you still stick up for her. Incredible. And, sorry, but I will judge when I think a surgeon is wrong. Its my right to have a choice of the surgery I want. its the right of any future Ren or patients to have the same choice. But you seem to think it isn't, and since you already " got yours " it doesn''t matter. Carole ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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