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Okay, people, I tried to get this off the main board and deal with

privately. So much for that . . .

After some deep soul searching, I have come to the conclusion that you are

right. I am threatened. I am threatened by misinformation. That

misinformation is that the pylorus is not very important. I am threatened

by the fact that a doctor is telling her patients something that literature

doesn't substantiate.

You must feel a bit insecure yourself if you have to resort to tossing out a

red herring dealing with what you might do if all the doctors changed their

minds tomorrow. Do you expect that is going to happen? Be serious. Let's

keep the information on this board a bit more accurate.

, no matter how well reasoned your next post about this might be, I am

ending discussion from my end.

Nick in Sage

Re: Re: Ren Cop Out

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> --- Nick wrote:

> > Hi Marcia -

> >

> > I guess you're right. In America, people have the

> > right to be nutty and

> > make nutty choices.

> >

> > That doesn't mean that their choices are good,

> > though, nor does it mean that

> > they are receiving the best possible surgery.

> >

> > Why, all of a sudden, are so many people championing

> > people's rights to make

> > bad choices? No matter how much we defend that

> > right, the choices are still

> > bad.

>

> **Nick,

> Somewhere along these post I must have missed

> something because you sure sound like someone who

> feels threatened and has the need to lash out.

> SO what, Dr. Ren has decided not to do the DS and

> instead of offering nothing, she is offering the

> nexted best thing in my opinion. I am certain she

> isn't doing that to hurt you in anyway so you can stop

> worrying. If someone wants the DS they have the

> option to go to another doctor. If all Doctors

> stopped doing the DS tomarrow you can bet I'd agree to

> have the BPD.

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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, I wish what you were saying were true, but it is not. Most

people do NOT have the option of choosing another DS doctor! In fact,

if YOU lived in CA YOU would have the option of RNY or VBG BUT NOT DS

because YOU have BCBS!

I had one choice of DS surgeons, period. I hated him. When I tried to

go out of network I was told by my insurance (not BC) to go suck an

egg. Now there is a 2nd surgeon in my network, so I MAY get lucky,

but probably I'll have to fight with my insurer to have DS at all.

And if I lived in a remote area of CA, or in a state with no DS

surgeons at all, I might be stuck with some other surgery or even NO

surgery unless i could afford to self-pay.

I have heard this notion of having other options bandied about quite

a bit. It simply is not true for most of us!

Chris

> SO what, Dr. Ren has decided not to do the DS and

> instead of offering nothing, she is offering the

> nexted best thing in my opinion. I am certain she

> isn't doing that to hurt you in anyway so you can stop

> worrying. If someone wants the DS they have the

> option to go to another doctor>

> =====

> B 36yrs

> Pre-op 11-13-01

> Wt.308 BMI 49

> BCBS of MI Blue Choice POS

>

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