Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

[Guest guest]

Terre

Im in the boiler plant here on the Navy Base Whidbey Island. so is Sub coffee the same as Boiler Plant Coffee?? I don't think I could give it up.

Walt (52) on Whidbey IPF,Nsip.Uip. 06

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€

Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:17 AM

I used to drink coffee. But, after abusing it with the Cuban coffee in Miami and several years of drinking Navy coffee on the sub my stomach rebelled. I tried decaf and still have it once in awhile. When I gave up the leaded variety I got headaches in the afternoon until I finally detoxed. For me it was more the tannic acid in the coffee than the caffiene. Starbucks is coming out with their new instant coffees and I hope they have a good decaf.I'm also lactose intolerant, but I use Walgreen's lactose pills which are not a drug but beneficial bacteria or another pro biotic. (Also good for controlling gerd)But, Lactaid, the brand, not only makes milk, choc. milk, and cottage cheese but they are now making vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, and the ever popular butter pecan ice cream. Can I get a yumm!!! They are all easy on the stomach. And the butter pecan is delicious!Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL> >> > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home> without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it

isn't good for me. I> really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> >> > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> Sleep Apnea 4/2009> >>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure it is if it's part lube oil and sea water.

> > >

> > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

> > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

> > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

> > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

> > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

> > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> > stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> > >

> > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

> > Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ours is bunker C and sea water

Walt (52) on Whidbey IPF,Nsip.Uip. 06

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€

Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:39 AM

I'm sure it is if it's part lube oil and sea water.> > >> > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's

home> > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I> > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> > stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > >> > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> > Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Walt,

You seem to like your plant coffee. I don't miss the sub coffee. Bunker C must

be tastier than lube oil. I did like that Cuban expresso after I got out and

moved to Miami in the early seventies. But, you drink that expresso with two or

three sugars (the way it was served) and you know why the Cubans were so

rebellious. Not to mention the Cuba Libra( rum and Coca Cola). Any way it

finally took a toll on the stomach lining. Maybe one a day would have been

better.

Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL

> > > >

> > > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> > > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

> > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

> > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

> > > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> > > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

> > > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

> > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> > > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> > > stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> > > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> > > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> > > >

> > > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

> > > Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Terre,

I was on the Calhoun (SSBN630) from 64 –

67 I’m in the subvets Thresher base and Calhoun vets.  What boats did you serve

on?  BTW I believe Navy coffee set me up for any coffee. I can tolerate

anything (including chicory).  My favorite is whatever is on sale and cheap. Our

coffee on the Calhoun was steamed which blanched the color completely out of the

grounds.

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of higgstk@...

Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009

2:40 PM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: Re: I

need a reality check here....(Terre)

I'm sure it is if it's part lube oil and sea water.

> > >

> > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or

if

> > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and

they

> > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout

where

> > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and

said

> > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it

for

> > after. I was raised in Minnesota

where you cannot go to a friend's home

> > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on

the

> > stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be

harmful,

> > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> > >

> > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

> > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II

2/2006,

> > Sleep Apnea 4/2009

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Terre

I'm not sure if you ever really like it it's just something you do. We make coffee all day here kind of the hub for coffee stops.

Walt (52) on Whidbey IPF,Nsip.Uip. 06

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€

Subject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:58 PM

Terre,

I was on the Calhoun (SSBN630) from 64 – 67 I’m in the subvets Thresher base and Calhoun vets. What boats did you serve on? BTW I believe Navy coffee set me up for any coffee. I can tolerate anything (including chicory). My favorite is whatever is on sale and cheap. Our coffee on the Calhoun was steamed which blanched the color completely out of the grounds.

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

From: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of higgstk (AT) bellsouth (DOT) netSent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:40 PMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

I'm sure it is if it's part lube oil and sea water.> > >> > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> >

after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home> > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I> > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> > stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > >> > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> > Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > >>

>>

[Guest guest]

Because of GERDS i gave up coffee, I wasn't as attached to it as I am to tea. I've been drinking tea since I was a little girl in my English grandmother's kitchen. At that young age I would put in about 4 spoons of sugar! I'm to the point that I might have to go to decaf tea (yuck!) so I can get this GERDS under control. First, I think I'll try tea in the AM and decaf in the PM. Now if I have to give up ICE CREAM! I think I might cry. I LOVE ICE CREAM! I eat ice cream everyday. I eat it in the afternoon instead of the evening like I use to. So far that is working and I also stop eating and drinking at 7 pm. I have to tell you though sometimes in the evening my stomach is growling away. But, it's either do it by the rules or don't sleep. I do like to sleep!PJ in OH, 54, IPF '09, Sjogren's '95---- Original Message ----From: higgstk@...To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:39:37 -0400 (EDT)Subject: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

I'm sure it is if it's part lube oil and sea water.> > >> > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home> > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I> > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> > stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > >> > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> > Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Ken,

I was on the USS Sam Rayburn SSBN 635 Gold crew. Also from 1964 to 1969. She was

the only boat I was on. We operated out of ton and Rota.

I knew someone on the Calhoun but I can't remember who. I'm also a member of the

Rayburn's Vets. I tried to join the Boynton Beach, Fl Sub vets but haven't

gotten a response yet. I'll get in contact again soon. I was a nuc MM and ELT.

Our coffee had a timed water line from the still. The water was timed to shut

off when the drip pot was full. Nuclear powered coffee. Were those fizzy things

protons?

Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL

>

>

> > > >

>

>

> > > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

>

>

> > > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

>

>

> > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

>

>

> > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

>

>

> > > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

>

>

> > > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

>

>

> > > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

>

>

> > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

>

>

> > > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

>

>

> > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

>

>

> > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

>

>

> > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

>

>

> > > stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

>

>

> > > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

>

>

> > > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

>

>

> > > >

>

>

> > > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

>

>

> > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

>

>

> > > Sleep Apnea 4/2009

>

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> > > >

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> > >

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>

[Guest guest]

It is interesting how many sub sailors there are here. One of our leading PO's

died a couple of years ago from asbestosis. He also was in the ship yards during

construction and was a plank owner. I don't believe that I was exposed to too

much asbestos because we always had the tender do the majority of the work. I

know you can get it from just being around it but don't remember much exposure.

I've often wondered about the elevated CO and CO2 levels. Plus in my case as an

ELT I did water chemistry on the reactor water and was exposed to radiation

during upkeeps.

But like Ken,I put mercury on coins and carried them for days while rubbing to

feel the slickness. Sat around the diesel in lower level AMR2, smoked Lucky

Strikes for 9 years ( some while on the boat), cleaned chicken coops a couple of

times, had a parrot, (argh!) love sports car racing with it's gas and rubber

fumes, on and on it seems. I think I know which idiot they are talking aboubt in

IPF.

A " breathe right " sub vets sounds good to me.

Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL, MM1(SS)

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> > > > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if

> >

> >

> > > > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they

> >

> >

> > > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where

> >

> >

> > > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said

> >

> >

> > > > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

> >

> >

> > > > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for

> >

> >

> > > > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home

> >

> >

> > > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah

> >

> >

> > > > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I

> >

> >

> > > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would

> >

> >

> > > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't

> >

> >

> > > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a " pot on the

> >

> >

> > > > stove " all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,

> >

> >

> > > > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one

> >

> >

> > > > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?

> >

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> > > > >

> >

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> > > > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

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> > > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,

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> > > > Sleep Apnea 4/2009

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[Guest guest]

Wally and Ken

when you talk about being sub vets, do you mean you were on submarines?

Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org---

Subject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)To: Breathe-Support Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 9:08 AM

Wally,

Welcome to another SUB Sailor. I have to disagree about the diesel boats. I was only on the USS Odax for a couple of months but ruined every set of whites I owned and my wife said I smelled of diesel fuel for months after I got off. I was on the Calhoun at Newport News Shipbuilding and remember a lot of the construction dust including asbestos from the lagging. I never remember wearing a respirator or mask. On one of the Calhoun patrols we had a bad freon leak from an airconditioner and were never able to get the levels down to normal. I have often wondered what those things did to my lungs. I also remember playing with mercury from thermometers and coating coins to make them shine back in the 50’s and melting lead to make fishing lures. It is a wonder I survived my

childhood.

Any more SubVets out there?

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

From: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of WALLY HOLMESLYSent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 7:23 PMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

Just stickin' my nose in here....

All I have to say is Diesel Boats Forever!

USS Barbel SS-580, USS Henry SSBN 599(, USS Aspro SSN-648.

I'm seeing a bottom gunner club here.

Wally

NSIP 10/06

west Texas

From: Ken's RR Mail < ridgerunnernh@ comcast.net >Subject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 5:59 PM

Terre,

I was Calhoun Blue from launch (plank owner) and went through all sea trials and 5 patrols all from ton . I was NAVET (worked on navdac). Reported from Damneck as ETR3 and left as ET1(SS). I Was on the USS Odax for a month or two before discharge. I have a list of both blue and gold commissioning crews if you are trying to remember someone from the Calhoun. I still drink 10 cups of coffee a day (more or less). My youngest son was an MT on the Will .

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

From: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of higgstk (AT) bellsouth (DOT) netSent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:24 AMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

Ken,I was on the USS Sam Rayburn SSBN 635 Gold crew. Also from 1964 to 1969. She was the only boat I was on. We operated out of ton and Rota .I knew someone on the Calhoun but I can't remember who. I'm also a member of the Rayburn's Vets. I tried to join the Boynton Beach , Fl Sub vets but haven't gotten a response yet. I'll get in contact again soon. I was a nuc MM and ELT. Our coffee had a timed water line from the still. The water was timed to shut off when the drip pot was full. Nuclear powered coffee. Were those fizzy things protons?Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL> > > > > >> > > > > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> > > > > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> > > > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> > > > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> > > > > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> > > > > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> > > > > after.

I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home> > > > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> > > > > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I> > > > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> > > > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> > > > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> > > > > stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> > > > > but really folks... 16 oz a day (some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> > > > > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > > > > >> > > > >

> Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> > > > > Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Ken

reading all of this stuff and about the stuff you sailors were exposed to reminds me of when i was a lab tech student and later a lab tech -- i forgot about the exposure to mercury when doing a certain blood test and cleaning the mercury with bare hands

also lots of chemicals in the lab -- no mask, no gloves

Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09

www.transplantfund.org---

Subject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)To: Breathe-Support Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 6:59 PM

Terre,

I was Calhoun Blue from launch (plank owner) and went through all sea trials and 5 patrols all from ton . I was NAVET (worked on navdac). Reported from Damneck as ETR3 and left as ET1(SS). I Was on the USS Odax for a month or two before discharge. I have a list of both blue and gold commissioning crews if you are trying to remember someone from the Calhoun. I still drink 10 cups of coffee a day (more or less). My youngest son was an MT on the Will .

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

From: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of higgstk (AT) bellsouth (DOT) netSent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:24 AMTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

Ken,I was on the USS Sam Rayburn SSBN 635 Gold crew. Also from 1964 to 1969. She was the only boat I was on. We operated out of ton and Rota .I knew someone on the Calhoun but I can't remember who. I'm also a member of the Rayburn's Vets. I tried to join the Boynton Beach , Fl Sub vets but haven't gotten a response yet. I'll get in contact again soon. I was a nuc MM and ELT. Our coffee had a timed water line from the still. The water was timed to shut off when the drip pot was full. Nuclear powered coffee. Were those fizzy things protons?Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL> > > > > >> > > > > > I don't know if this is just a product of the state I live in or if> > > > > there is some substance to this. I went in for my rehab today and they> > > > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise workout where> > > > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo dude and said> > > > > I may have to give up

coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give> > > > > up your coffee). I don't drink coffee before my workouts, I save it for> > > > > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a friend's home> > > > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every doctor in Utah> > > > > tell me I should quit drinking coffee because it isn't good for me. I> > > > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and I would> > > > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I don't> > > > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a "pot on the> > > > > stove" all day and having one cup after another might not be harmful,> > > > > but really folks... 16 oz a day

(some days it is only 8 oz). Any one> > > > > care to shed some light on the caffeine/coffee subject?> > > > > >> > > > > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn> > > > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009, Diabetes II 2/2006,> > > > > Sleep Apnea 4/2009> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Yes. 

From: Breathe-Support [mailto:Breathe-Support ] On Behalf Of Joyce T Rosenberg

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009

8:49 PM

To: Breathe-Support

Subject: RE: Re:

I need a reality check here....(Terre)

Wally and Ken

when you talk about

being sub vets, do you mean you were on submarines?

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From: Ken's RR Mail < ridgerunnernh@ comcast.net >

Subject: RE: Re: I need a reality check here....(Terre)

To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 5:59 PM

Terre,

I was Calhoun Blue from launch (plank owner)

and went through all sea trials and 5 patrols all from ton . I

was NAVET (worked on navdac). Reported from Damneck as

ETR3 and left as ET1(SS). I Was on the USS Odax for a month or two

before discharge. I have a list of both blue and gold commissioning

crews if you are trying to remember someone from the Calhoun. I still

drink 10 cups of coffee a day (more or less). My youngest son was an

MT on the Will .

Ken Baker 67 UIP/IPF 12/05 NH

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Sent: Saturday, October 10,

2009 10:24 AM

To: Breathe-Support@

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Subject: Re:

I need a reality check here....(Terre)

Ken,

I was on the USS Sam Rayburn SSBN 635 Gold crew. Also from 1964 to 1969.

She was the only boat I was on. We operated out of ton

and Rota .

I knew someone on the Calhoun but I can't remember who. I'm also a member

of the Rayburn's Vets. I tried to join the Boynton Beach , Fl Sub vets but haven't

gotten a response yet. I'll get in contact again soon. I was a nuc MM and

ELT.

Our coffee had a timed water line from the still. The water was timed to

shut off when the drip pot was full. Nuclear powered coffee. Were those

fizzy things protons?

Terre, IPF, 6-08, FL

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today and they

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> > > informed me that I had a short period at my last exercise

workout where

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> > > my heart rate jumped to 145. They have informed my pulmo

dude and said

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> > > I may have to give up coffee (everyone in Utah seems to want you to give

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save it for

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> > > after. I was raised in Minnesota where you cannot go to a

friend's home

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> > > without a pot of coffee being brewed. I have had every

doctor in Utah

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for me. I

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> > > really hate it when other belief systems are put upon me and

I would

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> > > have a very difficult time giving up my 2 cup a day habit. I

don't

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> > > think 16 oz. is too much. I could understand having a

" pot on the

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not be harmful,

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> > > > Stefani 61 year old Utahn

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> > > > ILD 2/2006, NSIP (cellular) 6/2009, UIP 9/2009,

Diabetes II 2/2006,

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