Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 At 1:47 AM +0000 11/5/01, mkf5t@... wrote: > >I thought that some of you might like to know what my good Padre had >to say about all of this. ... >That is, I can pray and pray, but if I don't get a clear " answer, " or >feeling in my heart or mind about what is " right, " then this third >option (the " done in faith " part) is my " good " alternative. > >What do you think? You've got one heck of a good Padre. next time you see him, tell him please what this non-believer said. --Steve -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2001 Report Share Posted November 4, 2001 I think the pagans might have some valid comments. lol /Settle > Hello. > > Pagans (or those who like to play them) read no further!! ;} > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 Thanks, . You're more than right. Personal conscience comes into play here in a BIG way, and I guess that's what's throwing me off. And, it's not like I can't make a decision on my own; you've read enough from me to know that I have an independent mind and voice! I just wish that there were some kind of precedent for me to examine. We have a lot of doctors, nurses, etc. that go to our Orthodox mission (hospital's the main employer in this college town), so my priest has had this kind of stuff on the brain: what is the role of medicine/healing/physicians in the church, etc. Anyway, I'm glad to have this " third option " to follow, because the countdown to surgery is ON: 15 days to go! I'm really starting to freak out, and my way of showing it is to be " anal " about organizing and preparing for the big day. Think you can remember some of those old Catholic prayers of yours and say a couple for me? I'm so scared of something going wrong. Love, > > Hello. > > > > Pagans (or those who like to play them) read no further!! ;} > > > > I thought that some of you might like to know what my good Padre > had > > to say about all of this. Well, at least the part that I liked > > most. He did say some things about prayer and caution and it being > a > > difficult moral decision, but here's what really hit home for me > when > > he said it: > > > > Even if this surgery is a " bad " decision, if it's made with the > right > > intent (to better my health and reduce comorbidities) AND done in > > faith, then what I'm doing is done in the best way that I know > how. > > That is, I can pray and pray, but if I don't get a clear " answer, " > or > > feeling in my heart or mind about what is " right, " then this third > > option (the " done in faith " part) is my " good " alternative. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Regards, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 Hey, Steve. Since your post didn't end with " Did you hear the one about the Priest and the Rabbi? " I'll assume that you're being genuine! :} Thanks for your comment; I think he's a keeper. Best, > > > >I thought that some of you might like to know what my good Padre had > >to say about all of this. ... > >That is, I can pray and pray, but if I don't get a clear " answer, " or > >feeling in my heart or mind about what is " right, " then this third > >option (the " done in faith " part) is my " good " alternative. > > > >What do you think? > > You've got one heck of a good Padre. next time you see him, tell him > please what this non-believer said. > > --Steve > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 At 12:22 PM +0000 11/5/01, mkf5t@... wrote: >Hey, Steve. > >Since your post didn't end with " Did you hear the one about the >Priest and the Rabbi? " I'll save my Orthodox jokes for your recovery (this will give me a few weeks to find some...). >I'll assume that you're being genuine! :} From time-to time, I am quite serious in my postings. But ALWAYS genuine, even in jest. >Thanks for your comment; I think he's a keeper. Yup. You ARE doing the right and moral thing. In Jewish law, " Saving of a Life " supersedes just about any other rule (such as dietary rules, working on the Sabbath--as a physician would do). You will be saving your life with this surgery. Literally. Good fortune, Steve > >Best, > > > >... > > >> You've got one heck of a good Padre. next time you see him, tell >him, please, what this non-believer said. > > >> --Steve > > -- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 , You're probably right. *grin* Besides, I *think* the advice came from a Catholic priest. And Catholicism is about as close to Paganism as Christianity gets. (No offense intended here. Catholicism was *designed* to be similar to many Pagan rituals so that the ancient Christians would find it easier to convert the Pagans.) Lorree > > Hello. > > > > Pagans (or those who like to play them) read no further!! ;} > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2001 Report Share Posted November 5, 2001 , I will be praying for you daily! My surgery is on November 19th, the day before yours. I have to tell you, since I started this adventure in June, every single day, and every single roadblock seemed like a blessing that would keep me from this scary surgery. For some odd reason, when I met my surgeon, Dr. Gregg Jossart, all that " heart " fear just went away! I found a center of peace and knew that this surgery was the right thing for me. I still suffer the pangs of that little voice in my head that says I am not " that fat " , or, I could try just " one more diet " , but my heart is absolutly at peace. I know you will find that space also, I am sure of it. This is the time when the holy spirit is so critical for me. Even that old adage of Alcoholics Anonymous...let go, let God, really helps. This is one of those things that is so much bigger than ourselves. Give this one to God, he/ She (snicker) will never set you on the wrong path. If I can lend a shoulder, anytime, I'm here for you! Hugs and understanding, Theresa P.S. When I get nervous, my sense of organization goes straight into the toilet! If you are a list maker, could you please share with me? P.S.S. Buy stock in Pepto Bismol. I have been living on it for a week now cuz of nerves! Laughing > > > Hello. > > > > > > Pagans (or those who like to play them) read no further!! ;} > > > > > > I thought that some of you might like to know what my good Padre > > had > > > to say about all of this. Well, at least the part that I liked > > > most. He did say some things about prayer and caution and it > being > > a > > > difficult moral decision, but here's what really hit home for me > > when > > > he said it: > > > > > > Even if this surgery is a " bad " decision, if it's made with the > > right > > > intent (to better my health and reduce comorbidities) AND done in > > > faith, then what I'm doing is done in the best way that I know > > how. > > > That is, I can pray and pray, but if I don't get a > clear " answer, " > > or > > > feeling in my heart or mind about what is " right, " then this > third > > > option (the " done in faith " part) is my " good " alternative. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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