Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Bruce i also think that writing the book turns the negative into something positive there are some people who might need to do this, they are creative and want to apply their creative talents to helping others with this disease Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:29 PM MB/JackA couple of comments.First, we have the Files section of this site. Thats the perfect placeto collect articles or paragraphs or stories or anything else related tothe book. Even if it doesn't ever make it to a book, then theinformation is there and can be used. I don't think it's necessary tocomplicate too much when there's a nice mechanism here that all of uscan access and that can benefit newcomers from the start rather thanwaiting for a completed product.Second, as to creating awareness of the disease, we do a little of thatevery day, but major awareness isn't going to happen until we get thatcelebrity factor. If Cook's brother had been a victim of PFinstead of cancer we would have gotten it a year ago through AmericanIdol. If a celebrity died and Hollywood rallied to have an annual fundraiser in their memory, we'd get it. I tried to get something going fromthe death of Goulet, but sadly, never got a call, letter or emailresponded to. There are now links on his website to PFF and CPF butthats basically it. Now, I'm not meaning to disparage friends or familybecause they have their own issues to deal with that we can't know. Theydon't have a responsibility.Third, I think its great that many here are excited about this but Ialso applaud Beth warning against pressure or guilt. I don't meanto offend anyone, but my life isn't about PF and I'm not going to let itconsume me. Most of us have other things going on in our lives. Also,living life to its fullest is my greatest goal at this point. That maybe considered by many to be selfish. But I spent most of my life beingthe opposite and now that my time is short, I have to make choices. I'vethought about books or web sites or articles or other things before andI know that I'd get into them and want to make them better and do moreand pretty soon I'd be obsessing over them and it would be like having afull time job again and I wouldn't be taking advantage of my remainingtime as I want to. Odds are great that I have less than 2 years and itcould be less than that and I say that not to be morbid and not becauseI think much of death. But I do think of all the things that I can dofor pleasure today and don't know that I'll be able to in months even. Ilove my family on the forum and participating here, but I had to setthat as my limit. I'll attend fund raisers like crazy Wally's (want tosee if he's reading) but I won't organize. I'd go to a support group andonce thought about organizing one for the DFW area. But, I realized thatit was just too much for me. I can't mentally or emotionally commit toprojects such as that. I admire all those who can.So for those with the energy and desire I encourage forging ahead. I doagain suggest using the files section here and making the project assimple as possible. Each person needs to weigh the project with otherthings in their lives. I'm glad there are crusaders. I'm thankful everyday for those like Leanne. I see what she does. I also worry about hertrying to do too much sometimes... .it's allowed.PF is a cause close to all of us. It's very personal. I educate where Ican. Traveling I found so many opportunities to respond to questions andhand out brochures but only when they asked. However, there too. I don'texpect too much of my friends or others. There are so many worthycauses. Who decides which is most worthy? There are certainly worsediseases than PF (Alzheimers is the first that comes to my mind). Thereis progress being made and a tremendous amount of research for PF.Medical Science, in my opinion, is still in its infancy, not advanced.Look at all the diseases we know so little about. PF and ConnectiveTissue Diseases are those impacting so many of us. Treatments will bediscovered. Future generations will benefit. There's just so much to bedone for this and many other diseases. But just look at those thatkilled huge numbers in the past and now are under control. Beth points out the difference between PF and Breast Cancer. Maybewe need a massive campaign just to encourage 6 minute walks, somethingso simple to detect lung conditions and lead to more diagnosis. But,unfortunately, we can't promise cures with early detection. I crusadedto everyone I knew some few years ago to get Colonoscopies. Why? Theysave lives. Find colon cancer early and it can be treated. I know. I hada resection and removal of a pre-cancerous tumor. So until we have thesame, there will be greater crusades for breast cancer and colon cancer.Also, we may do ourselves disservices when we state so clearly there isno treatment for PF. I see it all the time. Define "Treatment." Firstfor some forms there are proven treatments. But for all forms there arethings to do to make life better and avoid complications. I considerthose treatments. We're treating here every day we tell someone to getan oximeter. Oxygen is a proven treatment to improve quality of life andlessen the likelihood of PH. Avoiding germs and getting quick medicalcare are treatments. Pulmonary Rehab is a treatment. Management of thedisease and our lives with it are treatments. Not cures. But treatments.Which brings me back to this board in my very long post. It's a greattreatment. Here I've learned more about living with the disease than Icould have any other way. Here I've had incredible mentors. Here I haveso many great role models. But, fortunately, here I've also met someincredible people and that is far beyond sharing a disease. When I thinkof them I don't think first of PF. I think of the wonderful people theyare and then realize that they have PF. PF doesn't define Peggy and. They are a loving couple with loving friends and family. Peggy isa hugger. is a gentle giant. Peggy spreads love. Beth is anurse, a mother, a daughter, a gardener, a friend. I could go down thelist for dozens of you.Well, thats more than enough for now. Didn't mean to write a book indiscussing the book.> > >> > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as Ido.> > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battledHodgkin's> > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, amon> > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. Iam> > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragmtoo> > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going totry> > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when doesyour> > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat allthese> > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out therehas> > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep onwalking???> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 You are MUCH too humble, Beth. You always make an amazing amount of sense. But I promise to look it over when you're finished. Or even AS you're writing it if you'd like. Sometimes people like to do that. Not that you need it. I'm setting up a special folder in my email account that supposedly will automatically receive all emails of stuff sent to me for editing for the book. Everyone just needs to put " Book " in the subject line. BTW, I promised to personally answer everyone's post who wrote & helped me with my own quality of life issues, & you're at the top of my list. But I suddenly find myself doing a bunch of book stuff & my intentions seem to be falling by the wayside. I'm so sorry. But I was really touched by your response. Thank you. And thank you to the rest of you who also wrote to help me. You can probably tell that my life suddenly has purpose, which is what I really needed. Nothing else has changed, but I feel MUCH better. Cees, S Calif PF 10/08 > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do. > > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's > > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on > > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am > > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too > > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try > > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from > > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the > > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your > > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all these > > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support > > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for > > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has > > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking??? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Well said, Bob. Thank you. Cees > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I > do. > > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled > Hodgkin's > > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am > on > > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I > am > > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm > too > > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to > try > > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from > > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the > > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does > your > > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all > these > > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support > > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for > > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there > has > > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on > walking??? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Geeta, You NEVER sound silly or stupid! There are NO stupid questions or comments. I hate the word STUPID!!! Not one of us knows everything, but together we are stronger and mightier that our parts. Dyane Phoenix ipf 02 > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do. > > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's > > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on > > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am > > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too > > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try > > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from > > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the > > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your > > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all these > > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support > > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for > > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has > > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking??? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 cees i am really glad this book is giving you a purpose Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:26 AM You are MUCH too humble, Beth. You always make an amazing amount of sense. But I promise to look it over when you're finished. Or even AS you're writing it if you'd like. Sometimes people like to do that. Not that you need it. I'm setting up a special folder in my email account that supposedly will automatically receive all emails of stuff sent to me for editing for the book. Everyone just needs to put "Book" in the subject line.BTW, I promised to personally answer everyone's post who wrote & helped me with my own quality of life issues, & you're at the top of my list. But I suddenly find myself doing a bunch of book stuff & my intentions seem to be falling by the wayside. I'm so sorry.But I was really touched by your response. Thank you.And thank you to the rest of you who also wrote to help me. You can probably tell that my life suddenly has purpose, which is what I really needed. Nothing else has changed, but I feel MUCH better.Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 i think there is a place with a list of all of the members not everyone participates and some people die without having anyone to tell us that they are no longer here -- a sad reality Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 11:19 AM Well said, Bob. Thank you.Cees> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I> do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled> Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am> on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I> am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm> too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to> try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does> your> > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all> these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there> has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on> walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 i just reread part of peggy's post i think one of the topics could be something like what to do within our limitations like getting a Kindle -- i think that is what it is called, to be able to read books without physically going to the bookstore or the library i should put this under tips Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: To: Breathe-Support Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi Group, Wow I just read 90 posts.. love it. Please know I just can't answer each one right now. I have used the morphine 4 times since yesterday. What a relief for my chest. Funny thing is I remember Lou saying she was flying hi on morphine... she would just laugh.. well I'm waiting.. LOL I don't feel anything. just relief from the cough. I just can't believe it being the wimp I am.. This is a good thing. They also brought several other drugs.. I don't think I will be needing them. Well see. She said one would relax me and stop the anxiety. She looked at me like I was nuts. But I will tell them if I get antsy. I am reading the posts through the day and will be posting more. It is hard to do with a houseful. Yes I do feel like I am posting for another person.. out of body.. (only weighs 120, long lovely hair, beautiful, all the good stuff.) Thats what I see in my mind.. must be the drugs .heehhee. Love and welcome to all the newbies. Just remember to work on living not on dyeing. You can still have a full happy life. Love & Prayers, Peggy Florida, IPF/UIP 2004 "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 A kindle may not be necessary because they are so expensive.. I have a MP3 player and download books on to it from my library. All I need is a library card! Also, you can pay to havebooks downloaded onto the MP3 player from audio book clubs...Joyce To: Breathe-Support Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi Group, Wow I just read 90 posts.. love it. Please know I just can't answer each one right now. I have used the morphine 4 times since yesterday. What a relief for my chest. Funny thing is I remember Lou saying she was flying hi on morphine... she would just laugh.. well I'm waiting.. LOL I don't feel anything. just relief from the cough. I just can't believe it being the wimp I am.. This is a good thing. They also brought several other drugs.. I don't think I will be needing them. Well see. She said one would relax me and stop the anxiety. She looked at me like I was nuts. But I will tell them if I get antsy. I am reading the posts through the day and will be posting more. It is hard to do with a houseful. Yes I do feel like I am posting for another person.. out of body.. (only weighs 120, long lovely hair, beautiful, all the good stuff.) Thats what I see in my mind.. must be the drugs .heehhee. Love and welcome to all the newbies. Just remember to work on living not on dyeing. You can still have a full happy life. Love & Prayers, Peggy Florida, IPF/UIP 2004 "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 rudy joyce thanks i will add this to the tips file i also forgot that some libraries will deliver books to the homebound and there is also reading for the blind Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: bookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:21 PM A kindle may not be necessary because they are so expensive.. I have a MP3 player and download books on to it from my library. All I need is a library card! Also, you can pay to havebooks downloaded onto the MP3 player from audio book clubs...Joyce To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 8:53 PM Hi Group, Wow I just read 90 posts.. love it. Please know I just can't answer each one right now. I have used the morphine 4 times since yesterday. What a relief for my chest. Funny thing is I remember Lou saying she was flying hi on morphine... she would just laugh.. well I'm waiting.. LOL I don't feel anything. just relief from the cough. I just can't believe it being the wimp I am.. This is a good thing. They also brought several other drugs.. I don't think I will be needing them. Well see. She said one would relax me and stop the anxiety. She looked at me like I was nuts. But I will tell them if I get antsy. I am reading the posts through the day and will be posting more. It is hard to do with a houseful. Yes I do feel like I am posting for another person.. out of body.. (only weighs 120, long lovely hair, beautiful, all the good stuff.) Thats what I see in my mind.. must be the drugs .heehhee. Love and welcome to all the newbies. Just remember to work on living not on dyeing. You can still have a full happy life. Love & Prayers, Peggy Florida, IPF/UIP 2004 "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Count me in on anything you guys do, I don't write worth a damn, But I could do something. Jack I think your a saint. JOHN <FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#40007f size=3> Soulliere & nbsp; <IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/50.gif"></FONT> To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 7:49:11 AMSubject: Re: Re: Book I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009  Jack...in response to your suggestion of accessing some posts that are especially sad or uplifting.....I know YOU know this but perhaps there are others who do not know that confidentiality is a line we don't cross. Permission to QUOTE a post has to have permission from that person. Hope you're doing ok today! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm blushing, . Thanks for the new title, but I am far from earning it. Those who know me best would laugh their head off. I tend to wander through the other side more. Wicked, is what I am. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:55:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book Count me in on anything you guys do, I don't write worth a damn, But I could do something. Jack I think your a saint. JOHN <FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#40007f size=3> Soulliere & nbsp; <IMG src="http:// us.i1.yimg. com/us.yimg. com/i/mesg/ tsmileys2/ 50.gif"></FONT> From: Embarq Customer <pattijo05@embarqmai l.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 7:49:11 AMSubject: Re: Re: Book I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Very good ideas, Geeta. I will include them. B Barbara McD PF--Sept 08; Sjogren's--Apr 09; Reynaud's--seems like forever Beautiful Western NC Attitude is everything. To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 11:24:20 AMSubject: Re: Book Geeta,You NEVER sound silly or stupid! There are NO stupid questions orcomments. I hate the word STUPID!!! Not one of us knows everything, buttogether we are stronger and mightier that our parts.Dyane Phoenix ipf 02> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old asI do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battledHodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF,am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement.I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragmtoo> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going totry> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group forthe> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when doesyour> > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat allthese> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge lovingsupport> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone outthere has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep onwalking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Wicked is a good thing Jack <FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#40007f size=3> Soulliere & nbsp; <IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/50.gif"></FONT> To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 3:22:16 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book I'm blushing, . Thanks for the new title, but I am far from earning it. Those who know me best would laugh their head off. I tend to wander through the other side more. Wicked, is what I am. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine From: Soulliere <johnsbatik (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:55:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book Count me in on anything you guys do, I don't write worth a damn, But I could do something. Jack I think your a saint. JOHN <FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#40007f size=3> Soulliere & nbsp; <IMG src="http:// us.i1.yimg. com/us.yimg. com/i/mesg/ tsmileys2/ 50.gif"></FONT> From: Embarq Customer <pattijo05@embarqmai l.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 7:49:11 AMSubject: Re: Re: Book I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 bruce i just read more of your post i agree with your paragraph about treatment there is no cure, but there are lots of treatments as you stated that is the difference and don't forget somepeople think of transplant as a cure but the reality is that you are trading the disease of pulmonary fibrosis for the disease of transplant and all of its ramifications Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:29 PM MB/JackA couple of comments.First, we have the Files section of this site. Thats the perfect placeto collect articles or paragraphs or stories or anything else related tothe book. Even if it doesn't ever make it to a book, then theinformation is there and can be used. I don't think it's necessary tocomplicate too much when there's a nice mechanism here that all of uscan access and that can benefit newcomers from the start rather thanwaiting for a completed product.Second, as to creating awareness of the disease, we do a little of thatevery day, but major awareness isn't going to happen until we get thatcelebrity factor. If Cook's brother had been a victim of PFinstead of cancer we would have gotten it a year ago through AmericanIdol. If a celebrity died and Hollywood rallied to have an annual fundraiser in their memory, we'd get it. I tried to get something going fromthe death of Goulet, but sadly, never got a call, letter or emailresponded to. There are now links on his website to PFF and CPF butthats basically it. Now, I'm not meaning to disparage friends or familybecause they have their own issues to deal with that we can't know. Theydon't have a responsibility.Third, I think its great that many here are excited about this but Ialso applaud Beth warning against pressure or guilt. I don't meanto offend anyone, but my life isn't about PF and I'm not going to let itconsume me. Most of us have other things going on in our lives. Also,living life to its fullest is my greatest goal at this point. That maybe considered by many to be selfish. But I spent most of my life beingthe opposite and now that my time is short, I have to make choices. I'vethought about books or web sites or articles or other things before andI know that I'd get into them and want to make them better and do moreand pretty soon I'd be obsessing over them and it would be like having afull time job again and I wouldn't be taking advantage of my remainingtime as I want to. Odds are great that I have less than 2 years and itcould be less than that and I say that not to be morbid and not becauseI think much of death. But I do think of all the things that I can dofor pleasure today and don't know that I'll be able to in months even. Ilove my family on the forum and participating here, but I had to setthat as my limit. I'll attend fund raisers like crazy Wally's (want tosee if he's reading) but I won't organize. I'd go to a support group andonce thought about organizing one for the DFW area. But, I realized thatit was just too much for me. I can't mentally or emotionally commit toprojects such as that. I admire all those who can.So for those with the energy and desire I encourage forging ahead. I doagain suggest using the files section here and making the project assimple as possible. Each person needs to weigh the project with otherthings in their lives. I'm glad there are crusaders. I'm thankful everyday for those like Leanne. I see what she does. I also worry about hertrying to do too much sometimes... .it's allowed.PF is a cause close to all of us. It's very personal. I educate where Ican. Traveling I found so many opportunities to respond to questions andhand out brochures but only when they asked. However, there too. I don'texpect too much of my friends or others. There are so many worthycauses. Who decides which is most worthy? There are certainly worsediseases than PF (Alzheimers is the first that comes to my mind). Thereis progress being made and a tremendous amount of research for PF.Medical Science, in my opinion, is still in its infancy, not advanced.Look at all the diseases we know so little about. PF and ConnectiveTissue Diseases are those impacting so many of us. Treatments will bediscovered. Future generations will benefit. There's just so much to bedone for this and many other diseases. But just look at those thatkilled huge numbers in the past and now are under control. Beth points out the difference between PF and Breast Cancer. Maybewe need a massive campaign just to encourage 6 minute walks, somethingso simple to detect lung conditions and lead to more diagnosis. But,unfortunately, we can't promise cures with early detection. I crusadedto everyone I knew some few years ago to get Colonoscopies. Why? Theysave lives. Find colon cancer early and it can be treated. I know. I hada resection and removal of a pre-cancerous tumor. So until we have thesame, there will be greater crusades for breast cancer and colon cancer.Also, we may do ourselves disservices when we state so clearly there isno treatment for PF. I see it all the time. Define "Treatment." Firstfor some forms there are proven treatments. But for all forms there arethings to do to make life better and avoid complications. I considerthose treatments. We're treating here every day we tell someone to getan oximeter. Oxygen is a proven treatment to improve quality of life andlessen the likelihood of PH. Avoiding germs and getting quick medicalcare are treatments. Pulmonary Rehab is a treatment. Management of thedisease and our lives with it are treatments. Not cures. But treatments.Which brings me back to this board in my very long post. It's a greattreatment. Here I've learned more about living with the disease than Icould have any other way. Here I've had incredible mentors. Here I haveso many great role models. But, fortunately, here I've also met someincredible people and that is far beyond sharing a disease. When I thinkof them I don't think first of PF. I think of the wonderful people theyare and then realize that they have PF. PF doesn't define Peggy and. They are a loving couple with loving friends and family. Peggy isa hugger. is a gentle giant. Peggy spreads love. Beth is anurse, a mother, a daughter, a gardener, a friend. I could go down thelist for dozens of you.Well, thats more than enough for now. Didn't mean to write a book indiscussing the book.> > >> > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as Ido.> > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battledHodgkin's> > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, amon> > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. Iam> > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragmtoo> > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going totry> > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when doesyour> > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat allthese> > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out therehas> > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep onwalking???> > >> >>__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 sher i was thinking about the confidentiality issue too today we would need permission to quote i don't know the legal ramifications of using ficticious names i also thought that the writers could make some composite people for purposes of the book also if we go into the archives, we do not have the persmission of the people who have already left this world to use their names or materials - i don't know how that would work Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 2:37 PM  Jack...in response to your suggestion of accessing some posts that are especially sad or uplifting... ..I know YOU know this but perhaps there are others who do not know that confidentiality is a line we don't cross. Permission to QUOTE a post has to have permission from that person. Hope you're doing ok today! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 i think anonymous or fictitious names is the way to go Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:49 AM I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thank Dyane. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as > I do. > > > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled > Hodgkin's > > > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, > am on > > > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. > I am > > > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm > too > > > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to > try > > > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from > > > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for > the > > > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does > your > > > > quality of life take priority over trying endlessly to beat all > these > > > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving > support > > > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for > > > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out > there has > > > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on > walking??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Oh MamaSher! Surely you know that to misspell is human. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:18:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book  boy oh boy, I sure misspelled fictitious! Sorry gang! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009  Jack...may be human but to read a misspelled word and send it is DUMB! hehehee MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I am so confused, sorry. Is this how I can answer/comment to the entire group or do I have to answer each person individually who responded to me? The posts are now in an "inbox" format but I was also looking at them through "my groups". Anyway, I hope this works. Since I am new to this whole thing I just asked Leanne to send me that informational packet. If I'm doing this wrong please someone let me know. Is there a "how to for dummies" for yahoo groups??? Cees, you have a terrific project to create and what an oppotunity to make a difference. I'm on board for writing a story and think the questionnaire is a great idea. I don't mind using my real name it's already out there for a lot of cancer & BMT sites. The more people we can reach out to the better, you will be a force to be reckoned with!!!! Thank you so much to the entire group for sharing and helping me see that I am not alone in this crazy thing. Your words of encouragement and life experience are truly priceless, thanks. Now for another question, IPF and PF. From what I understand IPF has an unknown cause and PF a known cause? Does that change medications that can be used to help? Like mine is from radiation treatments.. PF means scarring, how can anything undo that? What is Pirfenidone? I saw posts someplace but I can't find them now. Is that for both, IPF & PF? Thanks, Dawn To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:53:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book Oh MamaSher! Surely you know that to misspell is human. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine From: Sher Bauman <bofus6 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:18:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book  boy oh boy, I sure misspelled fictitious! Sorry gang! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Dawn, What hospital are you going to? Penn is a Center of Excellence for PF! Get your doctor to get you an appointment there. They are wonderful. Z fibriotic NSIP/05 Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild†PH/10/07 No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara     “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower   Dawn Urso wrote:  I am so confused, sorry. Is this how I can answer/comment to the entire group or do I have to answer each person individually who responded to me? The posts are now in an "inbox" format but I was also looking at them through "my groups". Anyway, I hope this works. Since I am new to this whole thing I just asked Leanne to send me that informational packet. If I'm doing this wrong please someone let me know. Is there a "how to for dummies" for yahoo groups???  Cees, you have a terrific project to create and what an oppotunity to make a difference. I'm on board for writing a story and think the questionnaire is a great idea. I don't mind using my real name it's already out there for a lot of cancer & BMT sites. The more people we can reach out to the better, you will be a force to be reckoned with!!!!  Thank you so much to the entire group for sharing and helping me see that I am not alone in this crazy thing. Your words of encouragement and life experience are truly priceless, thanks.  Now for another question, IPF and PF. From what I understand IPF has an unknown cause and PF a known cause? Does that change medications that can be used to help? Like mine is from radiation treatments.. PF means scarring, how can anything undo that? What is Pirfenidone? I saw posts someplace but I can't find them now. Is that for both, IPF & PF?  Thanks, Dawn From: Jack Marshall <mrshlljck (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:53:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Book  Oh MamaSher! Surely you know that to misspell is human.  Jack 79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine From: Sher Bauman <bofus6 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:18:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: Book   boy oh boy, I sure misspelled fictitious! Sorry gang! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR. Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce T Rosenberg To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: Book  i think anonymous or fictitious names is the way to go Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06)  IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund. org From: Embarq Customer <pattijo05@embarqmai l.com> Subject: Re: Re: Book To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:49 AM  I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: Book                        Jack, I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out. So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think? Cees, S Calif PF 10/08 > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do. > > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's > > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on > > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am > > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too > > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try > > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from > > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the > > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your > > > quality of life take priority over trying > > > > endlessly to beat all these > > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support > > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for > > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has > > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking??? > > > > > > > > > >             Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I go to Penn some people go to Temple, they have a specialized department for lung diseases also Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:49 AM Dawn, What hospital are you going to?Penn is a Center of Excellence for PF!Get your doctor to get you an appointment there. They are wonderful. Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild†PH/10/07 No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower Dawn Urso wrote: I am so confused, sorry. Is this how I can answer/comment to the entire group or do I have to answer each person individually who responded to me? The posts are now in an "inbox" format but I was also looking at them through "my groups". Anyway, I hope this works. Since I am new to this whole thing I just asked Leanne to send me that informational packet. If I'm doing this wrong please someone let me know. Is there a "how to for dummies" for yahoo groups??? Cees, you have a terrific project to create and what an oppotunity to make a difference. I'm on board for writing a story and think the questionnaire is a great idea. I don't mind using my real name it's already out there for a lot of cancer & BMT sites. The more people we can reach out to the better, you will be a force to be reckoned with!!!! Thank you so much to the entire group for sharing and helping me see that I am not alone in this crazy thing. Your words of encouragement and life experience are truly priceless, thanks. Now for another question, IPF and PF. From what I understand IPF has an unknown cause and PF a known cause? Does that change medications that can be used to help? Like mine is from radiation treatments.. PF means scarring, how can anything undo that? What is Pirfenidone? I saw posts someplace but I can't find them now. Is that for both, IPF & PF? Thanks, Dawn From: Jack Marshall <mrshlljck (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:53:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book Oh MamaSher! Surely you know that to misspell is human. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine From: Sher Bauman <bofus6 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:18:34 PMSubject: Re: Re: Book  boy oh boy, I sure misspelled fictitious! Sorry gang! MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009  Hey folks...when you change the subject within a post, please change it in the subject as well before you send it. Posts get lost in a thread because the subject shows differently from the conversation. Thanks. : ) MamaSher; 71, IPF 3-2006, OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: Book Jack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I don't think I would be comfortable with someone just taking my e-mail writings without permission and putting them in a book. What I have shared by posting to this group I assumed to be confidential and not for the general public. I have also made reference about doctors (including their names) and others that I wouldn't want to get back to them or the public. I wouldn't mind writing my own story or tips for the book, just don't want things I've posted in confidentiality for this group to be taken and put into a book. I would just ask that someone research the legalities of writing a book. Presenting someone else's words or ideas as your own, whether intentional or not, constitutes plagiarism. Any time the original thought, words, or pictures (including e-mails) did not come from your own head, you must give credit to the original source by showing exactly where you found the material. C_53_Familial IPF_5/09Washington To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 6:32:00 AMSubject: Re: Re: Book i agree with that Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund. org From: Embarq Customer <pattijo05@embarqmai l.com>Subject: Re: Re: BookTo: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 7:49 AM I'm agreeable to any info from my posts being printed, anonymously though. Re: BookJack,I wholeheartedly agree with you about the heart-wrenching posts, "told from the heart," that would make this book a huge success among the general public. That's why I wrote that most members could just cut & paste previous posts to tell their stories because they were already so good. But Barbara & Beth make a really good point. Just because you & I have been writing on demand our whole lives doesn't mean the general public feels comfortable doing it. I think you said you taught college students like I did. Maybe your students were already good writing majors, but many of mine weren't, so I totally understand how people can be intimidated by a writing project. That's why I think a Questionnaire is a great idea. For one thing, we'll get responses from a lot more people, which I know you're hoping to see. And who knows? Sometimes just having a question to answer gets the juices flowing & stories come pouring out.So go for it, Barbara. I can't wait to see the Questionnaire. I think that's one thing that really can be posted on the Files section of our website, so everyone can download a copy. I would ask that you run it past a couple of us on the committee before you submit it though. Mostly because we might have an idea for another question to include & the read-only Files section can't easily be edited. For example, I think we should include a question asking permission to possibly use info from people's past postings with the caveat that they will have final approval over any edited version that's attributed to them. Whaddya ya'll think?Cees, S CalifPF 10/08> > > >> > > > Hi, I'm new here and need to hear from others who feel as old as I do.> > > I'm only 43 but my body is about 20 years older. I've battled Hodgkin's> > > Lymphoma 7x since 1995 and am still in the fight. Now I have PF, am on> > > oxygen 24/7, use a bi-pap and get out of breath with any movement. I am> > > in a rehab program 3x a week and was told I have a week diaphragm too> > > due to being laid up after some stomach surgery, so I am going to try> > > singing lessons to help me breath differently. I am so tired from> > > breathing, it takes so much energy. I am in a support group for the> > > cancer and in private therapy for everything else. But when does your> > > quality of life take priority over trying> > > > endlessly to beat all these> > > health issues? I have a king of a husband and a huge loving support> > > system but none of that can help me breath any better. Sorry for> > > complaining so soon, it's just so tough and I know someone out there has> > > walked in my shoes, I just need to know how do you keep on walking???> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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